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oh YEAH and better yet, i looked on their site last night just on a whim and they are playing a show in Pittsburgh tonight, 15 minutes from my house which is actually an apartment but anyway, YEAH thats awesome

that is intense.. i did about 3 minutes of it and got a lot of energy neat.. i couldnt do that stomach pumping for longer though.. my muscles just wouldnt do it... 2 and a half hours?? huh?? hahahah

hahaha i stayed up all night in prayer and meditation last night, and this morning i read this! "The Obstacles To The Practice Of Yoga And How To Overcome Them 47. Seven are the causes of the diseases in the body. Sleeping during the daytime is the first, late vigils overnight is the second, excess of sexual intercourse the third, moving amidst crowds the fourth. The fifth cause is the effect of unwholesome food. The sixth is the checking of the discharge of urine and faeces. The seventh is the laborious mental operation with Prana." i was gonna sleep today, but as i now know, that is the first cause of disease! haha i just thought that was funny good thing i don't even feel like sleeping right now, hope i make it til tonight! hehe anyway its taking me a while to get through, but its a really awesome text, thanks again!

hehehe i guess by default its 2012 shit, but also i think that your sort of experience has always happened. The limited self of finite consciousness is not what we really are. We are an unlimited self of infinite consciousness... we are THAT, god, goddess, divinity itself, or a spark thereof. The key to unfolding the consciousness of the higher self in my experience is to embrace it humbly and know that you are divine and boundless, not in a way that makes you special, but in a way that is humbling. It helps me to know that i am not what i thought i was, the limited and conditioned self that society and family has taught us that we are. the words of the hopi elders come to mind... You have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour. Now you must go back and tell the people that this is The Hour. Here are the things that must be considered: Where are you living? What are you doing? What are your relationships? Are you in right relation? Where is your water? Know our garden. It is time to speak your Truth. Create your community. Be good to each other. And do not look outside yourself for the leader. This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel like they are being torn apart, and they will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off toward the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above the water. See who is there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally, least of all ourselves! For the moment we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt. The time of the lonely wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish the word struggle from your attitude and vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration. We are the ones we have been waiting for. The Elders, Oraibi, Arizona Hopi Nation

i met with my friend who taught me kundalini yoga at first, and he said yogi bhajan went back to india after being in america and there were 2 assassination attempts on his life. So he came back to the states. What is a good guru without some scandal i wonder?? hahaha mark griffin said "live notoriously! scare your neighbors... they're complacent anyway. ...and don't be spiritual, you'll look silly" Mark's amazing, i love him, and he was the student of scandalous gurus, chogyam trungpa rinpoche, who drank gin for breakfast and slept with his students and married a 16 year old... and muktananda, who awakened SO many people and gave so much light, but i have read he was a "serial philanderer" and violated some of his female students according to them. Who knows what the truth is.. i don't pretend to. But there is some scandal and allegations of cult-leader type mentality to yogi bhajan, that was my point I guess even a guru is a human being subject to the energies of this age of darkness. And maybe those people making those allegations were sick and deranged and lying. Nobody really knows here so its sorta silly to talk about at all i guess That kriya looks intense. thanks for sharing! I am at a teahouse now so i didnt get a chance to try it. I will dig it up later and give it a go.

these guys rock every time

thanks everyone, i'm glad i'm not the only one who picked up on the new-agey stuff. I have a hard time with that, but like dainin said, i don't have to adopt a sikh lifestyle to enjoy KY. And i actually do enjoy the kriyas, so i'll just wade out slowly, in no hurry. thanks for that link SIME, i have it open now, so i'm gonna go read it

thats a great technique, thanks for sharing!

the v notch in the front, where the throat meets the sternum? i like that idea but i don't understand exactly what you mean i am suspending from the C7 vertebrae and letting my head float up and i like it! cool idea

the purpose of this thread is the end boss of the game dude mabu FTW chaotic good level 54 thread-destroyer!

just thought that was relevant to quote at present, and that getting back to the point of this thread would be nice.

there are more paths than yours to liberation, and im glad that the world isn't a lot of cardboard cutouts of vmarco. The spirit doesn't discriminate against theists like you do. It avails itself to all equally. I have met theists who are spiritually achieved, and thats where my contribution to this socalled conversation ends.

saints are just spiritually attained people. Nobody said anything about morality until you used it to support your claim that saints are ignorant. Saintliness and morality don't have anything more to do with each other than saintliness and ignorance.

Happiness! I have been doing stretching of my left hip/leg for a couple months, not much daily, just five minutes or so. My right leg was already prepared by all the half-lotus i sit. This morning, I sat in full lotus for the first time that wasn't just a test to see how long i could hold it. My feet weren't solidly up near my hips, they were more like this: but i still felt a powerful stability and an ease of staying upright and stable. I felt energy rise up my central channel, and i felt somehow more stable throughout my body in a way that seemed mystical, but i could easily have been vibing with joy for being able to sit in full lotus for the first time, and mistaking that for some mystical stability ahhaha I held the posture for about 20 minutes, and noticed a natural tension that i had to consciously relax in order to keep the posture. The letting go was awesome, and as i relaxed my legs again and again, the discomfort went away (at about 10 minutes or so). At about 20 minutes it came back full force and i got out of the posture, and just sat quarter lotus to finish my meditation. I was so relaxed that i finished my kuji-in, sat in absorbtion/emptiness for a while, and then said a slow mala round of mantra. Then i sat some more! I didn't want to get up! I think the full lotus does do something weird to me, but i don't want to start sounding like a zealot. Or even a fanatic. The best thing about it is that i have had 2 major surguries on my legs (following being hit by a car) and i have 11 pieces of metal in there and a lot of bone bumps and irregularities. In short, i Never thought i would be able to sit full lotus in my life, so this is a really major breakthrough for me!! I am so happy right now i just wanted to share it with you all! blessings

Thanks Sunya! i have been meaning to start practicing dreaming again for so long and now i am reading the book i mentioned, and Tenzin Wangyal's The Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep. so when i finish with those i will check out the Crystal and the Way of Light! I'm just into the introductions and im reading a couple other books, so i don't know when i will actually start dreaming, but when i get some foundation to talk about, maybe i will start a thread for the dreamers here! that would be cool do you know of any other books from the tibetan perspective on "lucid dreaming"? you can PM me if you don't want to derail the thread

sounds like a wonderful experience, but i wouldn't really listen to the opinions of people on internet forums about exactly what it is sorry guys i love you all but... trees are conscious entities and as such can transmit energy. Sounds like you got quite a transmission, but energy tends to move in orbits and wheels so thats why i say it would be hard for anyone over the internet to tell you exactly what that tree transmitted to you, or awakened in you. If you have a chance to work with the qigong teacher who led the retreat, or another master in person, maybe they could feel it and tell you what they felt. I'm sure you are compelled to wonder what is it exactly, but maybe its just a transmission from nature and you will only know exactly what it is by letting it run its course and have its effect on you. That is my personal intuition, but what i said first up there applies hahaha Sounds really wonderful! My girlfriend is really close to the plant world.. she can listen to plants. I am more like that with crystals, and have gotten several powerful blasts in the course of working with the mineral kingdom, but i never really knew exactly what they were either, i just trust nature to guide me wisely.

i am reading my first book by him, Dream Yoga and the Practice of Natural Light which reminds me of another great living master, Geshe Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche, a Bon shaman and meditation master

yeah i find a balance between taking it easy on myself and pushing myself. This morning was the first time in 3 days that i could do it because i pushed it too hard wednesday night. My ankle screamed at me every time i tried so i just gave it a little break. So I am learning where my limits lie and how hard i can push it, but i am not really looking at extended periods of time yet. Still taking baby steps

i just got it to connect to your site, thats an awesome site! really cool info, thank you i will try rocking to stabilize the legs. But i can't sit lefty lotus yet, my left leg isn't loose enough yet.. i am still working on it every day.

i get a lot out of mark griffin's hardlight.org

i chant mantras almost every day. I am not making any claims to be awesomely insightful or even be able to answer your questions, but I do find mantras to be very useful, especially when the monkey mind is on a donkey kong rampage. I have never used that book/cd you mention, but its probably a good place to start if thats what you are intuitively drawn to. I recommend that you start by just chanting some mantras. You can find pronounciations on the web in various places, and start with the language and culture and deity or purpose that suits you.. i like tibetan and sanskrit, some people like japanese, it all works. Even chanting mantras in english works, although it is not as resonantly beautiful in most cases. I like to use a mala. But just chant until the mantra starts to chant itself if you don't have one. There will be a point at which you let go of your mind by degree, but you are still chanting, you don't have to think of what to say, it just says itself. Feel free to ask any questions you have I'm no expert i just chant a lot, and i'd be happy to help if i can.

Awesome!

hahaha i have had some undesirable experiences from the dark side that most people wouldn't believe. I can barely describe them. One time i was sitting on a rock on some native american burial land (that i didn't know was native american burial land until LATER) and a monstrous black demon walked out from behind a tree. It was 7ft tall and made of shadow and when it saw me it grinned a monstrous grin and put its finger over its mouth, but my spirit flared up and on my next inbreath i INHALED it! So that also caused me no end of schizoid symptoms, depressed suicidal demonic possesion madness, and other various and sundry problems, until i finally killed it years later. I fasted for 8 days and on the last day i had a vision of how to destroy it! Later that day i did just what the vision showed me to do and i heard it breath a last loud nasty breath and die. To put things in Juan Matus' terminology, that thing was the most malicious petty tyrant that a warrior could ask for! It taught me SO much about myself and what i am really made of, and the guidance and love that surrounds and protects me, and about how to act critically and decisively in the face of adversity that sometimes in my prayers i thank it. But not usually.

fascinating! thanks!! I had a near death experience at age 20 where i touched the light, and it touched me back! I didn't know anything about kundalini at the time but i have just learned that that light is considered the shaktikundalini [Lilian Silburn, The Energy of the Depths] and that it is the kundalini of shakti her(it?)self which absorbs the mind and spirit like the personal kundalini absorbs the chakras, leading to states of absorbtion and bliss. Whew. Anyway i touched the light, and then i freaked out cause i knew it would unmake me, and i jumped out of there back into my own body. Whew! After that some crazy gifts awakened and knowledge would just arise in my mind! some of it i could test and it would be true, and some of it was crazy and total bullshit. I also experienced profound psychosis and schizoid breaks with bouts of depression and mania to boot! I thought it was from the pain of the incident which caused the near-death experience, but it fits that the light awakened my energies like some kind of cosmic shaktipat, and without guidance i went completely bonkers insane before i straightened out and came back. That article really helped me understand and accept myself in a new way! I forget her name, but she was the student of gopi krishna that that article cited as having a list of things to do in the case of kundalini syndrome... my own experience caused me to do Every last one of those things in the course of healing from that incident, without any instruction from others! Like i said, guidance just falls out of the sky into my lap sometimes... i'm sure i'm not the only one. Well that article was part of a synchronicity cause just the other day i read about the light of death being the shaktikundalini, and it started me thinking "maybe Thats why my recent kundalini experience has been so abnormal to the textbook awakenings, because it was activated 14 years ago and its only now manifesting in a sensible way" ... then that article! wham! hit me like a lightning bolt! thank you so much for sharing scotty i really appreciate your contributions many blessings

Harmonious Emptiness, that can be really frustrating, but it can lead to awesome practice. Something that changed my life is taking the noise of a crowded city or a screaming child or a barking dog or anything that interrupts my meditation and, with the power of the mind and spirit, transmuting it with your intentions to a vibration of spiritual purity. Ideally, you can also wake up at 4 or 5 AM and sit for an hour and then go back to sleep (hehe i did that just this morning.. mmmm sundays). The atmospheric qi is best during that time anyway But maybe someone else can say what that transmutation practice is called, because i don't know a name for it in chinese or sanskrit or anything that you could look up. I just know that when my neighbor decides to play her TV way too loud (i think she's losing her hearing), through the power of mind, i make no distinction between the nonsense of jersey shore and the singing of temple songs and bells. With practice, you can do this anywhere, and anytime. Blessings