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you should send those jesus chicks this link unintentionally sexual church signs http://www.happyplace.com/3695/unintentionally-sexual-church-signs my favorite: "in your right hand there are pleasures forever - psalm 16:11"

thats great, thanks!

how long were you a breatharian for? were you a fruitarian first? or a raw foodist? you're the first breatharian i've ever talked to

AHAHAH i was going to mention those crazy TM flyers... haha yogic bouncing! "and if you act now, for the low introductory price of just $3000, we will teach you yogic bouncing... free chiropractic adjustment included! soon you'll be levitating" gotta love the maharishi

glad to hear you are feeling better now. the mayan calendar helps me a lot, and i hope it helps you too.

i guess i do. probably comes from not having many friends, or a facebook account, or some outlet for my thoughts. i guess i get too excited about all the like minds here and talk too much. i'll try to rein it in. yeah i think no answers too. just myriad ways of looking at things, and certain agreements we make with each other. probably i should not try to hijack this thread either. i was raised by fundamentalist hypocrites, and i guess i still have issues, seeing as how ol tulku and his opinions rile me up. thanks for the nice reminder. well if you and i and everyone and all the animals and plants etc are expressions of higher power, higher power is schizo by definition. maybe higher power is off its meds! haha yeah i agree

oooh i just found "the gentle path of spiritual progress" on paperbackswap.com i am with you stigweard ni is legit by me. ahhhaha its easy to be a critic and hard to be a daoist master

clearly there is a fair amount of superficial daoists on internet dating sites... funny, but sad too i wish you luck, there are men out there who are more attracted to energy and spirit than to preconceived notions of looks, although male biochemistry seems wired especially for certain shapes and ratios. i think you will have to be very patient and very discriminating, i hope you find just the right person

i dont understand creator as something that can be deified, as it is beyond attributes and personality. So in that way i can understand things from an atheist's perspective. But i have seen enough to believe that the cosmos is intelligent, and that things happen with purpose and intention behind them, not randomly or accidentally. So in that way i can understand as a theist. There is no easy answer, so i am not going to pretend that i could give an easy explanation and do the subject any justice. However i am all about hijacking this thread so lets talk more about it marblehead! and anyone else who wants to chime in hahahah if the dao is the sum total of all intelligences, is it, as a oneness, intelligent? some people hear voices of deities because deities talk to them, some people hear voices of deities because their mind is fixated on deities and the mind just works like that, some people hear voices of deities because they are schizophrenic and have auditory hallucinations, some people hear voices of deities because they are listening to bad spirits that say "i am this deity <snicker> do what i say" (i know you don't believe in spirits, try to stay with me), some people hear voices of deities because they want so badly to hear voices of deities that the mind creates these voices to quench the thirst, some people hear voices of deities because they sit in too much meditation and get energy stagnating in their head, etc. however, if i pray to shiva, sometimes i hear a response to my question in english language!! WTF?! i don't presume that shiva is actually using his conscious mind to answer my prayers. maybe that is why they say shiva lives everywhere.. maybe his consciousness is just such that it is part of me (shivoham is a shaivite mantra meaning "i am shiva") or maybe when you get into the realm of deity consciousness, ordinary explanations fall short of being able to adequately describe what is experienced. i don't pretend to understand, maybe its just my higher self?! who can say? not me. but i get really really helpful advice from this voice when it manifests. and of course i am far from the only one to have mystical experience regarding shiva. so who knows? i surely don't pretend to. i am an ignorant mystic, a fool who has accepted his folly. better that i just raise more questions than that i try to answer anything

@thelerner: thanks, your words are wiser than mine. It is very very yang, and i probably shouldn't encourage people to do it. I appreciate you saying that

hahah start by bouncing a little bit before you know it you'll be levitating all over the place

i think guru is something else, hes like a 30th generation daoist master (or something like that 31st i forget) his sons do own and operate a TCM school in santa barbara california north of LA, and they get criticized a lot for driving their big shiny sports cars around town when some people think they should be meditating, but hua-ching ni does know a lot and has a lot to share. i have benefited from reading his books, and i hope you do too. yes there are red flags but i think if you want the pure transmission of something like you're looking for, you will be able to find fault with anyone who is selling their books these days. until you climb the mountain to apprentice with the immortal at the top of it, i think learning from authors like ni is a good idea!

haha like a great big gordian knot, or some kind of human lemniscate i think thats awesome, thanks for sharing!

i only gaze at sunrise and sunset suns and wouldn't recommend it beyond an hour from each of those events what were you wondering? im not an expert, and it makes me feel giddy, so i don't do it for a full hour. maybe 5-10 min to charge up w light. i think its good practice. if its closer to midday, one can circle their eyes around the sun in each direction in order to absorb good solar energy without looking directly at the sun.

its probably different for everyone although there has been research that i heard about on coast to coast am, which showed a significant difference in healing times between people that were prayed for, vs people who weren't so maybe it is just the focusing of positive energies in the aethers, or maybe it is placebo, or maybe deities exist that hear prayers and respond, but something is going on i think! sorry i can't cite a reference for that study, but i swear i heard george noory report that!

hahaaha not like i pretend to understand the mother cosmos / creator / whatever but when i first started to get psychic impressions and messages in my body i was working with a shaman (cherokee) and he told me basically that the great spirit communicates with *everyone* in their own way and not to think i was special or fixate on the impressions i was getting, just remember that i should be grateful if i get a message that helps. also, it stands to reason that everything is dao, so i have never had a thought in my life, nor has anyone else, that wasnt a manifestation of dao! haha! seperation from the divine is a very western idea, and so then is the idea of "reconnecting with it"!? To me, life is the dream of godhead, and we are all characters in this great dreaming drama, so this very conversation contains the essence of divinity, as does the poo i just took, and everything else! we are all characters in creator's dream. So nothing, therefore, is seperate from creator, and nobody has ever had a thought which has not been of the origin of creator! how could one ever be seperate from creator, except in their own mind!? haha So when i hear people like tulku say "oh i hear the messages of creator, i am so high level, i am so special" i think to myself "no you have only begun to realize that the creator talks to you. soon you will begin to realize that the creator talks to everyone!"

haha i just read that yesterday in a book. thats what i mean, the cosmos talks to everyone. we just have to learn to recognize the language that it speaks. edit> don't talk about clinging on this thread though.. the enlightenment police are listening :D

the creator talks to everyone. you don't understand what you are talking about.

i have never heard such stories from any of my tibetan/nepalese friends they love the dalai lama i have seen the chinese propaganda that says things like you are saying here though. please cite references to news sources or media links that help me understand the monstrosity of the dalai lama?? your views are too similar to propaganda distributed by the chinese government for me to take seriously.

hear hear bothersome concept

well it would work for that... although i don't think you could file that approach under "surviving the eschaton" rope is just handy stuff.. never know what it'll be good for

if you want to survive the eschaton, you should have fresh flashlight batteries. and some rope.

hi, i just wanted to share these because they really help me. and because typing them out reinforces them 1. law of world views - the world we perceive is actually an interface between the unknowable objective reality and the subjective self. changing subjective world views changes the perceived world. there are infinite ways to perceive infinite worlds. observation changes phenomenon by the power inherent in our attention. we can become one with the universe but can never be an independent observer. we participate in creating the world by perceiving it. 2. law of attention - the more evidence one looks for to support a given law, conclusion, or worldview, the more one will find. world views are static and inert. maintaining them is done by means of a recursive internal dialogue or words and symbols which we use to constantly edit our perceptions. to rearrange one's worldview, rearrange the attention. 3. law of synchronicity - the law of cause and effect manifest as events connected by patterns in space and time. patterns are meanings. 4. law of relative truth - all statements are true, false, and meaningless from a trinity of points of view. flexibility of awareness allows one to adopt these points in turn, and simultaneously. 5. law of pragmatism - if it works, it is true. the more successful a world view is at fulfilling the goals of its adherents, the more valid it is said to be. few then are truly insane, and fewer truly sane. 6. law of paradox - no world view or set of world views can ever encompass the actual world. this paradox is based on the unknowable nature of reality. two people may experience the same event as different occurances. the rationality of our worldviews, words, and symbol sets is limited by intellect. the world itself is not. the resolution of the paradox is that the world contains our worldviews, but our worldviews do not contain the world. 7. law of unity - everything through all space and time is linked by degree to everything else. all is ultimately one. 8. law of reflection - all parts are reflection of the whole. each thing is a "holon" or a whole part of a greater holon. the cosmos is holographic in its manifestation. each of us is the cosmic image. when the inner image is tuned, or brought into resonance, with the outer image, perception of oneness can occur. 9. law of association - if two things have a commonality, they will influence each other. the more commonality, the more influence. similarity and contagion. similarity is sympathetic, and means that the cause and effect have resonance with each other. contagion is homeopathic, and means that things in contact continue to interact after separation. anything once in contact can be used as a tuning crystal is in a radio to isolate the frequency of that things, because it carries a resonance relationship with it. 10. law of connection - to oppose something is to maintain it. to have power over something is that things power over you. every act is an exchange of energy, there is always give and take simultaneously. 11. law of synthesis - any two opposites can be unified in a force or concept that will contain both of the original opposites (hot, cold - temperature) 12. law of duality - any force or concept can be divided into two opposites, each of which will contain the essence of the other, and can only be defined in relationship to each other. 13. law of personification - any object, concept, force, or phenomenon may manifest as an entity. it can be considered to be alive, have a personality, and be respectable and addressable as an entity. everything has a spirit. 14. law of interfaces - power exists in refined form and alignments like noon, midnight, poles, solstices, etc. it also exists in places which are in between or not entirely one thing or the other. these places have power which comes from the exchange of energy between poles, like lightning, caves, grottoes, towers, mountains, beaches, wells, crossroads, cliffs, equinoxes, twilight, dawn, salamanders, frogs, etc have this energy 15. law of words and symbols of power - there are words and symbols that are able to change the inner and outer realities of those using them. these do not need to be understood consciously in order to have effect. there is a primordial resonance between symbols or words of power and what they represent, this is why they are what they are. 16. law of names - a things true name is its nature. the name is what weaves together the being. what most people consider name is only label, true names exist in the higher planes more often than in the experienced world. 17. law of labeling - people tend to believe they understand something if they have a name for it. this is nominalization. do not confuse map and territory. when we label, we exclude information. 18. law of information - the more information contained in a symbol, the more general and vague it becomes. the more specific a symbol, the more information it excludes. simplicity dominates complexity. 19. law of pattern - information can be viewed as a measure of predictability. the more unpredictable a message is, the more information it contains. pattern is information, which is energy. knowledge is power. patterns develop complexity naturally as they evolve. in this sense the cosmos becomes more intelligent every day. as it develops simplicities, it becomes wiser. 20. law of intelligence - any pattern of sufficient complexity will act intelligently when treated as an entity. a patterns complexity can be said to be its intelligence. intelligence is a measure of information, and pattern is information. therefore, the relationship between pattern and intelligence is overlapping.

as to names and labels, those axioms came from egyptian light magic. They believe in the name body as one of the human bodies (physical, dreaming, auric, astral, heart, etc) which is the body which exists in the dimension of pure information, binding all your different bodies together into one "you" with the spell, which is your true name (not the name you were born with on earth necessarily), so that is not to say that those axioms are totally correct or totally daoist or anything of the sort, just to give you some background information on them to help you understand where they are coming from. they believe in the essence of the thing itself, the true name, and the "other name" or label which we call name in the case of self i agree about crocodiles, but don't tell kids that they are cats that might be confusing