Jeff

Thank you.

So then something exists that was not created...

If that follows... then who made the one exist that care enough...?

Compassion is going back into the cave and doing whatever is necessary to lead others out. As you said, it has nothing to do feeling sorry for someone.

If you read his 3rd book, he seems to actually finally come to the realization that there is something more than his experience. He calls it human adulthood.

Thank you very much for sharing. You are a gifted teacher. Emptiness (Buddhism) can be a very challenging and seems to carry with more than what you are describing above. Rather than emptiness, would it make sense instead to use the word "clarity". As we "let go" of issues/obstructions, the energy flows more freely. Clarity <==> energy Would not the understanding of true emptiness require that one "realize" fully that they are also the energy?

Could you also describe your energy dispersment as that it may feel like you are "radiating" energy as you "watch"?

It is just increased sensitivity, the elevator (or churning) is common and nothing to worry about.

I knew I shouldn't come here... Now I am trapped in another neverending loop of life...

This thread has become nothing but an insult to a member. It is a very sad statement.

It was a good post. Could you explain more what you mean by "external blockages" and maybe how they relate to oneness? Thanks.

Have a good weekend.

Welcome to the party. There are many good resources (and people) found here.

OK. Just for you this one time... My cool Robin shades...

Count me in as a Dzogchen/Taoist/Gnostic type modified Christian... In the end, the truth is the truth.

Do I get a mask?

Why is it such a big deal to you that you would leave TTB?

Thanks. Fixed.

Hi deci belle, If i may put it in other words... Are you saying above that your definition of enlightenment (and your interpretation of various texts) is basically clear & quiet mind in normal everyday life? Not being pulled or misled by preconceived thoughts and emotions. In essence, allowing the individual to true freedom to act. And also telling us this is your normal day to day state? Also, basically saying you disagree with some of the Dzogchen quotes posted earlier in this thread? Thanks.

Hi Learner, I definitely agree with your point, but if at the "inner level", it is a "transmission" (as in Dzogchen), and cannot be written down. A few more words from John on that point... John 7:37-38 (KJV) 37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. 38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. Flowing "Living" water feels a lot like energy/light/vibrations (Kundalini/Holy Spirit). (edit - chapter fixed - thanks seeker)

As you describe the void (alone) is the state of nothingness. One of the best description of this state is Jed McKenna's first book. Compassion is also sometimes called "pure light". Void with compassion (or light) is more "oneness". The immortal fetus is also sometimes called the body of light.

Hi deci belle, I think the following quote posted by Ish in another thread (hope Ish doesn't mind) may answer your question about if the "light" is just as in normal temporal manifestation in the Dzogchen tradition... "A practitioner who manifests this realization cannot really be said to have `died', at all, in the ordinary sense of the word because he or she still remains spontaneously active as a principle of being in a Body of Light. The spontaneous activity of such an individual will be directed for the benefit of others, and he or she is actually visible to someone in a physical body who has sufficient clarity. But a practitioner who perfects and completes the fourth level of the Thodgal visions does not manifest death at all, but while still living gradually becomes invisible to those who have normal karmic vision. This level of realization is called the `Great Transfer', and this is the realization that Padmasambhava and Vimalamitra manifested. Essentially, the realizations of the Great Transfer and the Body of Light are one and the same; the only difference is that those who attain the Great Transfer do not have to go through death in the clinical sense in order to move from manifestation in the material plane to manifestation in the plane of the essence of elements. These two modes of realization are particular to the practice of Dzogchen" Chogyal Namkhai Norbu. The Crystal and the Way of Light: Sutra, Tantra and Dzogchen (p. 162). Kindle Edition.

I would definitely agree that Jesus gave transmission. Breathing could also be translated as something like "sending the winds" (life energy). Most traditions describe the Holy Ghost as God in the world (existence), not the specific transmission.

The nice thing about the gospel of John is that he is clear right from the beginning... There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. (John 1:6-13 KJV) As John said... To those who paid attention and listened, were shown how to become sons of God (enlightened). Also, he reminds us that being enlightened is not of body or mind, but beyond...

Very true.