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Hi Lucky7strikes, Thank you for sharing. Is the energy flow 24/7 or only with practices? Do you feel different types of energy? Also, when you were with/experienced Sadguru... Did it feel like you were in a "bubble" of him (or possibly like he came into you at a cellular level)? (edit - added a question)
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Welcome. Enjoy the party.
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Could someone explain the Buddhist belief system to me?
Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Another point that I think is important to differentiate Dzogchen (and other Atiyoga paths)... From Chogyal Namkhai Norbu (Dzogchen: The Self-Perfected State) on Dzogchen Tantra... The Tantras are teachings based on the knowledge and application of energy. Their origin is not to be found in the oral teachings of a master, as is the case with the Sutras taught by the Buddha, but stems from the manifestation in pure vision of a realized being. A pure manifestation arises through the energy of the elements in their subtle and luminous aspect, while our karmic vision is based on their gross or material aspect. To receive this type of transmission, it is therefore necessary to have the capacity to perceive the subtle dimension of light. -
Could someone explain the Buddhist belief system to me?
Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
No, my definition of "clear mind" would be better described as "calm mind" in Dzogchen. Agreed. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Hi SJ, Excellent and informative post (#243) above. Shine is equivalent to clear mind previously discussed. Thanks. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
I have no idea how you can extrapolate the my statements quoted to what you have defined. Additionally, it is an incorrect "judgement" or view of my perspective. If you are really interested, my views (in Dzogchen terms) are basically the same as described in the book "Dzogchen: The Self-Perfected State" by Chogyal Namkhai Norbu. It is excellent book, very well writen and easy to understand (I just use different terms like energy instead of voice). -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Yes, or... Just playing with energy/light becomes a very important "practice"... -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Agreed. But many seem to "think" that they are done after recognizing the nature of mind (consciousness). Removing/dropping/letting go of all delusion/obstructions can take a while to "unfold". -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Hi SJ, For simplicity, rather than copy your whole post, I will just respond. Your above post describes things in a Thusness scale/system. I have had a couple of email exchanges with Xabir about it, but my knowledge of it (and the seven levels) is very limited. My experience on order and context has been different. As stated before, my path has been similar to Dzogchen (with Tantra /Tummo/Kundalini). The lack of Thusness describing/experiencing any energy/light flows makes it very challenging to compare/contrast. As an example, the opening of the 8th chakra is equivalent to beginning of forming a light body, but if someone can't even "feel" energy/light, it is very hard to have the discussion. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
It relates to a previous discussion on consciousness. In understanding what the rainbow body is (or purpose of it), one can better understand the difference between self-relization and true Buddhahood. The dharma wheel thread you posted also touches on it through the description of Tibbetan "completion stage" practices. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Thanks for pointing out the above thread. I had missed it the first time around on the wheel. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Hi TI (and Gatito), I wish you (both) well on your path. (p.s. Your old friend says "hi".) -
Could someone explain the Buddhist belief system to me?
Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Once again, I get the feeling that you do not read (or maybe understand) my posts. Being "one" with primordial awareness is to be a "Buddha/Christ", beyond consciousness with full clarity. I have repeatedly mentioned my ongoing obstructions. Since you do not perceive a difference between consciousness and awareness, this is a difficult conversation to have and explain. But, on knowledge... consciousness is experienced. To help with the explanation... Can you tell me... What is the purpose/use of a rainbow body? Or, is it that you consider yourself "done"? -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
All a matter of how things are "perceived", or the clarity of perception... -
Could someone explain the Buddhist belief system to me?
Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Existence continues to unfold. That is part of the fun. On my experience/beliefs, in a buddhist tradition, they would be similar to Dzogchen. Awareness would be translated to the primordial state. Have a good weekend. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
I thought I was pretty clear in my words above that I am commenting based upon my direct experience. Also, rather than just make random comments about AYP, pointless and non-sense, it would be helpful to know how your experience is different. Or, what you disagree with. Regarding "full spectrum", I did not mean that everything everyone says is true. The point is that perception of oneness/non-duality (as experienced in existence) unfolds in degrees as obstructions are let go (or clarity is increased). As an example, one can have a quiet mind and notice that they are consciousness, thus declaring non-dual, but the field of perception is limited to the perceived body. Then later, clarity increases and perception expands to others, broader reality, etc... -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
I do not have an easily defined belief system. It is more a hybrid based on direct experience/knowledge and a few insights from direct experiences of those I know and trust. (To be fair, there may also be a little extrapolation based on insights.) Though, I do often try to "translate" my perspective to other peoples belief system frameworks. As you said, I do not see the point in sharing theoretical positions (unless that is the point of the discussion). Interesting play on words regarding non-dual (oneness) above... Communication using words is by it's nature highly dualistic (implying two or more parties). The amazing (and cool) thing is that the full spectrum of perspectives, from dual to non-dual perspectives, are valid. The difference is the relative "clarity" of obstructions. -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
I don't understand your point. Could you explain it? There is only "One" or "Nothing" depending on your perspective. My "definition" of Consciousness is as a subset of Awareness. Duality is a perspective. Your definition of Consciousness may also be the same as my definition of Awareness (words are always challenging). I am familiar with AYP (and it's practices), but have not really practiced it. The system was not really a fit for me, but I respect (and like/friends) a few of the members. I have also had a few email discussions with Yogani on a variety of topics. Finally, I am definitely making no claim about myself. My point is that I see a difference between "self-realization" and "enlightenment/Buddha/Christ". -
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Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
The consciousness/awareness debate is already in play in the "Object" thread, but my "definitions" would be similar to TI's and the words of Nisargadatta from "I AM THAT" are useful... Q: You use the words 'aware' and 'conscious'. Are they not the same? M: Awareness is primordial; it is the original state, beginningless, endless, uncaused, unsupported, without parts, without change. Consciousness is on contact, a reflection against a surface, a state of duality. There can be no consciousness without awareness, but there can be awareness without consciousness, as in deep sleep. Awareness is absolute, consciousness is relative to its content; consciousness is always of something. Consciousness is partial and changeful, awareness is total, changeless, calm and silent. And it is the common matrix of every experience. I believe many experience "clear mind" or the "field of consciousness" and think it is enlightenment/buddhahood, but it is really just the beginning. Many think that being "aware" in consciousness is Awareness. In a chakra based system, it is the similar to declaring a wide open crown (7th) as being completely done. Trekcho is the cutting through of obstructions, the "seeing past" of issues (or realizing - not the thoughts). Also, in my above statement, I was not trying to start a Dzogchen war of some way being "better", but trying to help with an indescribable definition (trying to show similar, but fundamentally different). Also, I understand your question of effortless/effort, but it is hard to answer. In general, things are not too bad, but I am always finding new issues/obstructions. I have practiced what I believe is the same/similar as Tibetan Thogal, but not with a living Dzogchen master. So it is definitely not fair for me to comment directly on Thogal. -
Thank you for the guiding words.
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If you believe in reincarnation... Count me as an old romantic who agrees with you...
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Could someone explain the Buddhist belief system to me?
Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Words are challenging tools to use. Meaning is always dependent on perceived context. I have no issues with your above definition of Rigpa. Additionally, I think of consciousness and awareness as different (but many don't). The difference can be understood(found) in between Tregchod and Thogdal (Other Atiyoga approaches use different words). Or, if you prefer, there is a difference between "realization" and "buddhahood". -
If you(or anyone here) find someone in the world with total clarity... Please point him/her out, I would definitely like to meet them.
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Could someone explain the Buddhist belief system to me?
Jeff replied to DreamBliss's topic in Buddhist Discussion