Jeff

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  1. Merging and guru yoga

    Lot of fun reading this thread everyone. Thanks.
  2. Merging and guru yoga

    Any source for your view that the Sambhogakaya is noticeable at the 1st bhumi? I have been taught that it was only above 8th. That only the nirmankaya was directly noticeable for 8th and below. Thanks.
  3. Merging and guru yoga

    Sending you the link by pm...
  4. Merging and guru yoga

    Any sutra or quote you can give regarding the merger of the gurus and students minds in Vajrayana? Have had many discussions with the guys at a major Buddhist forum where they are always telling me it is theoretically impossible in buddhadharma, even when I offer to directly demonstrate for them. Their position is that any such statement, simply means that that the student and guru are simply going the same direction (or going on the same path). Also, what bhumi does a student need to access/notice the Sambhogakaya in your Vajrayana tradition? Thanks.
  5. kundalini crisis, maybe

    Hi Stasia, Your energy flows (or Kundalini) is open to the 5th chakra (throat). You have reached the point where you are subconsciously feeling energy flowing in from other people and your broader environment. This “outside” energy is sort of overwhelming you and you are kind of stuck in a hyper receptive mode. At your body level it is like the outside energy is “hitting” stored issues and fears in your energy body and you are not releasing them (hence the pain and issues). At a mind level, it is like you are touching on aspects of more universal mind/consciousness and your are not accepting it at a conscious level. Sort of like you are subconsciously freaked out about the idea and “rejecting it”. In more taoist terms, you are taking in the energy, but not transmitting it back out. This leads to a buildup that gives you the problems that you describe. Things like diet and exercise are unlikely to have a major impact regarding your problems as you are “beyond” local body stuff and in the realm of more advanced energy stuff. Do you have any tradition or practices that you follow? May be able to offer some suggestions in your current framework. Best, Jeff
  6. Samatha vs Vipassina

    Yes, things like that can be very common. Sort of like with meditation, you dig a quiet hole, relax in it and the energy rises with it. But as you get caught up with more normal daily concerns, that energy starts to “hit” unresolved issues and fears, and that can spill over in your mind as emotional pain. It is all a process as you clear away stuff.
  7. Hi

    Welcome. With your arm in the sling, sounds like it will be a good time to simply be and expand...
  8. Stanzas on Vibration Translated by MARK S. G. DYCZKOWSKI 1. WE PRAISE THAT SANKARA WHO IS THE SOURCE OP THE POWER OF THE WHEEL OF ENERGIES BY WHOSE EXPANSION (UNMESA) AND CONTRACTION (NIMESA) THE UNIVERSE IS ABSORBED AND COMES INTO BEING. 2. THAT IN WHICH ALL THIS CREATION IS ESTABLISHED AND FROM WHENCE IT ARISES IS NOWHERE OBSTRUCTED BECAUSE IT IS UNCONDITIONED BY (ITS VERY) NATURE. 3. EVEN WHEN DIVISION PREVAILS DUE TO THE WAKING AND OTHER STATES, IT EXTENDS THROUGH THAT WHICH IS UNDIVIDED (TADABHINNA) BECAUSE THE PERCEIVING SUBJECTIVITY FOREVER REMAINS TRUE TO ITS OWN NATURE. 4. NO NOTIONS SUCH AS: 'I AM HAPPY,' 'I AM MISERABLE' OR 'I AM ATTACHED' (EXIST INDEPENDENTLY). THEY ALL CLEARLY RESIDE ELSEWHERE, NAMELY, (IN THAT) WHICH THREADS THROUGH (ALL) THE STATES OF PLEASURE AND THE REST. 5. THAT EXISTS IN THE ULTIMATE SENSE WHERE THERE IS NEITHER PLEASURE NOR PAIN, SUBJECT NOR OBJECT, NOR AN ABSENCE OF CONSCIOUSNESS. 6 - 7 . THAT PRINCIPLE SHOULD BE EXAMINED WITH EFFORT AND REVERENCE BECAUSE THIS, ITS UNCREATED FREEDOM, PREVAILS EVERYWHERE. BY VIRTUE OF IT, THE SENSES, ALONG WITH THE INNER CIRCLE, (ALTHOUGH) UNCONSCIOUS BEHAVE AS IF CONSCIOUS IN THEMSELVES AND MOVE TOWARDS (THEIR OBJECTS), REST (THERE) AND WITHDRAW (FROM THEM). 8. INDEED THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL (PURUSA) DOES NOT ACTIVATE THE IMPULSE OF THE WILL (WHICH DIRECTS THE BODY'S ACTIVITY) BY HIMSELF ALONE, BUT THROUGH HIS CON­ TACT WITH (HIS) OWN (INNER) STRENGTH (BALA) MADE IN SUCH A WAY THAT HE IDENTI­ FIES WITH IT, (THUS ACQUIRING ITS POWER). 9. AN INDIVIDUAL WHO, (THOUGH) DESIROUS OF DOING VARIOUS THINGS, (BUT) INCAPABLE OF DOING THEM DUE TO HIS INNATE IMPURITY, (EXPERIENCES) THE SUPREME STATE (PARAM PADAM) WHEN THE DISRUPTION (KSOBHA) (OF HIS FALSE EGO) CEASES. 10. THEN (THE SOUL REALIZES) THAT HIS (TRUE) UNCREATED NATURE (DHARMA) IS (UNIVERSAL) AGENCY AND PERCEIVING SUBJECTIVITY, AND SO HE KNOWS AND DOES WHATEVER (HE) DESIRES. 11. HOW CAN ONE WHO, AS IF ASTONISHED, BEHOLDS HIS OWN NATURE AS THAT WHICH SUSTAINS (ALL THINGS) BE SUBJECT TO THIS ACCURSED ROUND OF TRANSMIGRATION? 12. NOTHINGNESS CAN NEVER BE AN OBJECT OF CONTEMPLATION BECAUSE CONSCIOUSNESS IS ABSENT THERE. (IT IS A MISTAKE TO BELIEVE THAT ONE HAS PERCEIVED NOTHINGNESS) BECAUSE WHEN REFLECTION (SUBSEQUENTLY) INTERVENES, ONE IS CERTAIN THAT ' IT WAS. ' 13. THEREFORE CONSIDER THAT TO BE AN ARTIFICIAL STATE SIMILAR TO DEEP SLEEP. THAT PRINCIPLE IS FOREVER PERCEIVED AND NOT REMEMBERED IN THIS WAY. 14. MOREOVER TWO STATES CALLED, ' 'THE AGENT' AND ' PRODUCT OF ACTION' ABIDE HERE. THE PRODUCT OF ACTION IS SUBJECT TO DECAY WHEREAS AGENCY IS IMPERISHABLE. 15. ONLY THE EFFORT DIRECTED TOWARDS THE PRODUCT OF ACTION DISAPPEARS HERE (IN STATES OF INTENSE INTROVERTED CONTEMPLATION) . WHEN THAT CEASES THE UNENLIGHTENED BELIEVES THAT HIS OWN EXISTENCE CEASES (WITH IT). 16. THAT INNER BEING IS THE ABODE OF OMNISCIENCE AND EVERY OTHER DIVINE ATTRIBUTE. IT CAN NEVER CEASE TO EXIST BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE CAN BE PERCEIVED (OUTSIDE IT) . 17. THE FULLY AWAKENED (YOGl ' s ) PERCEP­ TION OF THAT (REALITY) IS CONSTANT (AND ABIDES) UNALTERED IN ALL THREE STATES, WHEREAS OTHERS (PERCEIVE) THAT ONLY AT THE END OF THE FIRST (TADADYANTE). 18. THE OMNIPRESENT LORD APPEARS IN TWO STATES IN UNION WITH (HIS) SUPREME POWER WHOSE FORM IS KNOWLEDGE AND ITS OBJECT. ELSEWHERE, APART FROM THESE (TWO STATES, HE MANIFESTS) AS PURE CONSCIOUSNESS. 19. THE STREAMS OF THE PULSATION (SPANDA) OF THE QUALITIES ALONG WITH THE OTHER (PRINCIPLES) ARE GROUNDED IN THE UNIVERSAL VIBRATION (OF CONSCIOUSNESS) AND SO ATTAIN BEING; THEREFORE THEY CAN NEVER OBSTRUCT THE ENLIGHTENED. 2 0 . YET FOR THOSE WHOSE INTUITION SLUM­ BERS, (THESE VIBRATIONS OF CONSCIOUSNESS) ARE INTENT ON DISRUPTING THEIR OWN ABIDING STATE OF BEING (SVASTHITI ) , CAST­ ING THEM DOWN ONTO THE TERRIBLE PATH OF TRANSMIGRATION SO HARD TO CROSS. 2 1 . THEREFORE HE WHO STRIVES CONSTANTLY TO DISCERN THE SPANDA PRINCIPLE RAPIDLY ATTAINS HIS OWN (TRUE) STATE OF BEING EVEN WHILE IN THE WAKING STATE ITSELF. 2 2 . SPANDA IS STABLE IN THE STATE ONE ENTERS WHEN EXTREMELY ANGRY, INTENSELY EXCITED, RUNNING OR WONDERING WHAT TO DO. 2 3 - 2 4 . ONCE ENTERED THAT STATE WHICH (THE YOGI) TAKES AS HIS SUP PORT AND FIRMLY RESOLVES THAT: ' I WILL SURELY DO WHATEVER HE SAYS, ' BOTH THE SUN AND MOON SET, FOLLOWING THE ASCENDING WAY, INTO THE CHANNEL OF SUSUMNA, ONCE ABANDONED THE SPHERE OF THE UNIVERSE. 2 5 . THEN IN THAT GREAT SKY, WHEN THE SUN AND MOON DISSOLVE AWAY, THE DULL MINDED (YOGI IS CAST DOWN) INTO A STATE LIKE THAT OF DEEP SLEEP. THE AWAKENED HOWEVER REMAINS LUCID. 2 6 . SEIZING THAT STRENGTH (BALA), MANTRAS, ENDOWED WI TH THE POWER OF OMNISCIENCE, PERFORM THEIR FUNCTIONS, AS DO THE SENSES OF THE EMBODIED. 2 7 . IT IS THERE ALONE THAT THEY, QUIESCENT AND STAINLESS, DISSOLVE AWAY ALONG WITH THE ADEPT'S MIND AND SO PARTAKE OF SIVA'S NATURE. 2 8 . EVERYTHING ARISES (OUT OF) THE INDIVIDUAL SOUL, AND SO HE IS ALL THINGS BECAUSE HE PERCEIVES HIS IDENTITY WITH THE AWARENESS (HE HAS) OF THEM. 2 9 . THEREFORE THERE IS NO STATE IN THE THOUGHTS OF WORDS OR (THEIR) MEANINGS THAT IS NOT SIVA. IT IS THE ENJOYER ALONE WHO ALWAYS AND EVERYWHERE ABIDES AS THE OBJECT OF ENJOYMENT. 3 0 . OR, CONSTANTLY ATTENTIVE, AND PERCEIVING THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE AS PLAY, HE WHO HAS THI S AWARENESS (SAMVITTI ) IS UNDOUBTEDLY LIBERATED IN THIS VERY LIFE. 31. THIS INDEED IS THE ARISING OF THAT OBJECT OF MEDITATION IN THE MIND OF THE MEDITATOR, NAMELY, THE ADEPT'S REALIZATION OF HIS IDENTITY WITH IT BY THE FORCE OF (HIS) INTENT. 3 2 . THIS ALONE IS THE ATTAINMENT OF THE NECTAR OF IMMORTALITY, THI S INDEED IS TO CATCH HOLD OF ONESELF, THI S IS THE INITIATION OF NIRVANA WHICH BESTOWS SIVA'S TRUE NATURE (SADBHAVA). 3 3 . REQUESTED BY THE WILL, THE BENEFACTOR MAKES THE SUN AND MOON RISE AND BESTOWS ON THE EMBODIED, WHILE THEY WAKE, THE OBJECTS THAT ARE IN (THEIR) HEART. 3 4 . SO ALSO IN THE DREAM STATE (SIVA) , RESIDING IN THE CENTER, MANIFESTS WI THOUT EXCEPTION, ALWAYS AND MOST VIVIDLY THE THINGS (HIS DEVOTEE) DESIRES BECAUSE HE NEVER DESISTS FROM (HIS) PRAYERFUL REQUEST. 3 5 . OTHERWI SE (AS HAP PENS NORMALLY) , THE GENERATION (OF IMAGES) WOULD BE CONTINUOUS AND INDEPENDENT THROUGHOUT THE WAKING AND DREAMING STATES IN ACCORD WITH THEIR CHARACTER, AS HAP PENS TO THE WORLDLY. 3 6 - 3 7 . JUST AS AN OBJECT WHICH IS NOT SEEN CLEARLY AT FIRST, EVEN WHEN THE MIND ATTENDS TO IT CAREFULLY, LATER BECOMES FULLY EVIDENT WHEN OBSERVED WI TH THE EFFORT EXERTED THROUGH ONE'S OWN ( INHERENT) STRENGTH (SVABALA) ; WHEN (THE YOGI ) LAYS HOLD OF THAT SAME POWER IN THE SAME WAY, THEN WHATEVER (HE PERCEIVES MANIFESTS TO HIM) QUICKLY IN ACCORD WI TH ITS TRUE NATURE (PARAMARTHENA), WHATEVER BE ITS FORM, LOCUS, TIME OR STATE. 3 8 . LAYING HOLD OF THAT (STRENGTH) EVEN A WEAK MAN ACHIEVES HIS GOAL, AND SO IN THE SAME WAY A STARVING MAN CAN STILL HIS HUNGER. 3 9 . WHEN THE BODY IS SUSTAINED BY THI S , ONE KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT HAP PENS WI THIN IT. SIMILARLY (THIS SAME OMNISCIENCE) WILL PREVAIL EVERYWHERE (WHEN THE YOGI) FINDS HIS SUPPORT IN HIS OWN NATURE. 4 0 . LASSITUDE RAVAGES THE BODY, AND THIS ARISES FROM IGNORANCE. BUT IF IT IS ELIMINATED BY AN EXPANSION OF CONSCIOUSNESS (UNMESA), HOW CAN ( IGNORANCE) , DEPRIVED OF ITS CAUSE, CONTINUE TO EXIST? 4 1 . THE EXPANSION OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT TAKES PLACE WHEN ONE IS ENGAGED IN A SINGLE THOUGHT SHOULD BE KNOWN AS THE SOURCE FROM WHENCE ANOTHER ARISES. ONE SHOULD EXPERIENCE THAT FOR ONESELF. 4 2 . SHORTLY AFTER, FROM THAT (EXPANSION) ARISES THE POINT (HINDU), FROM THAT SOUND (NADA), FROM THAT FORM (RUPA), AND FROM THAT TASTE (RASA) WHI CH DISTURB THE EMBODIED SOUL. 4 3 . WHEN (THE YOGI 'S CONSCIOUSNESS) PERVADES ALL THINGS BY (HIS) DESIRE TO PERCEIVE, THEN WHY SPEAK MUCH? - HE WILL EXPERIENCE IT FOR HIMSELF. 4 4 . AT ALL TIMES (THE YOGI ) SHOULD REMAIN WELL AWAKE. HAVING WI TH (HIS) PERCEPTION OBSERVED THE FIELD (OF AWARENESS) , HE SHOULD DEPOSIT ALL IN ONE PLACE, AND SO BE UNTROUBLED BY ANY ALIEN (REALITY) . 4 5 . HE WHO IS DEPRIVED OF HIS POWER BY THE FORCES OF OBSCURATION (KAIA), AND IS A VICTIM OF THE POWERS ARISING FROM THE MASS OF SOUNDS (SABDARASI), IS CALLED THE FETTERED (PASU). 4 6 . OPERATING IN THE FIELD OF THE SUBTLE ELEMENTS, THE ARISING OF MENTAL REPRESENTATION (PRATYAYA) MARKS THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE FLAVOR OF THE SUPREME NECTAR OF IMMORTALITY; DUE TO THI S (MAN) FORFEITS HIS FREEDOM. 4 7 . MOREOVER THE POWERS (OF SPEECH) ARE ALWAYS READY TO OBSCURE HIS NATURE AS NO MENTAL REPRESENTATION CAN ARISE UNPENETRATED BY SPEECH. 4 8 . THI S , SIVA'S POWER OF ACTION, RESIDING IN THE FETTERED SOUL, BINDS IT, (BUT) WHEN ( ITS TRUE NATURE) IS UNDERSTOOD AND IT IS SET ON ITS OWN PATH, (THIS POWER) BESTOWS THE FRUITS OF YOGA (SIDDH1).* 4 9 - 5 0 . (THE SOUL) IS BOUND BY THE CITY OF RIGHT (PURYASTAKA) THAT RESIDES IN THE MIND, INTELLECT, AND EGO AND CONSISTS OF THE ARISING OF THE (FIVE) SUBTLE ELEMENTS (OF SENSORY PERCEPTION) . HE HELPLESSLY SUFFERS WORLDLY EXPERIENCE (BHOGA) WHICH CONSISTS OF THE ARISING OF MENTAL REPRESENTATION BORN OF THAT (CITY OF EIGHT) , AND SO ITS EXISTENCE SUBJECTS HIM TO TRANSMIGRATION. THUS WE WILL EXPLAIN HOW TO END THIS TRANSMIGRATORY EXISTENCE. 51. BUT WHEN HE IS FIRMLY ESTABLISHED IN ONE PLACE THAT IS THEN GENERATED AND WITHDRAWN (BY HIM AT WILL) , HIS STATE BECOMES THAT OF THE (UNIVERSAL) SUBJECT. THUS HE BECOMES THE LORD OF THE WHEEL. 52. I REVERE THE WONDERFUL SPEECH OF THE MASTER, WHOSE WORDS AND THEIR MEANING ARE MARVELOUS; IT IS THE BOAT THAT CARRIES ONE ACROSS THE FATHOMLESS OCEAN OF DOUBT.
  9. Wow. Not the response I would have guessed.
  10. It is the definition of Atman. Here you go... I am of the nature of consciousness. I am made of consciousness and bliss. I am nondual, pure in form, absolute knowledge, absolute love. I am changeless, devoid of desire or anger, I am detached. I am One Essence, unlimitedness, utter consciousness. I am boundless Bliss, existence and transcendent Bliss. I am the Atman, that revels in itself. I am the Sacchidananda that is eternal, enlightened and pure. — Tejobindu Upanishad, 3.1-3.12 (Abridged)
  11. How is enduring and indestructible different then permanent? And how is ultimate different than without a second?
  12. Excellent point... as the mind is very tricky and tends to find what it looks for...
  13. I didn't say it was... Also, I am sure that an experienced Hindu practitioner would say the same about their perceived essential nature...
  14. Ok... How about perceived essential nature of experienced practitioners... Anyway forget it... Enjoy the day.
  15. On this point I would have to disagree with you. View very much effects the experience of dedicated practitioners.
  16. What is Non-duality?

    Are we? Depends on the definition of “conscious”. He goes on to say... "The question is thus appropriate because contentment (enlightenment) is not possible without a conscious realization. Contentment is of two kinds. The first is effected by means of absorption (samavesa) and consists of magical powers. The second is attained by reaching a condition of conscious heart-felt realization, and it is the state of being liberated while still alive."
  17. What is Non-duality?

    Abhinavagupta (Kashmir Shaivism) responds.... "True, but even though it shines there, it has not truly become a conscious apprehension. Without conscious apprehension, even if a thing exists, it is as if it did not exist..."
  18. What is Non-duality?

    Yes, Emptiness “includes” both nirvana (universal subject) and samsara (dualistic). Or you could also say that the natural state has both pure and impure vision, as it is “beyond” the mind.
  19. What is Non-duality?

    If the mind is simply at rest, then how do you know it is not simply torpor? Non-dual is vibrant, pristine and clear... Also, in my view, both pure and impure vision are part of the natural state.
  20. What is Non-duality?

    Interesting... 51. BUT WHEN HE IS FIRMLY ESTABLISHED IN ONE PLACE THAT IS THEN GENERATED AND WITHDRAWN (BY HIM AT WILL) , HIS STATE BECOMES THAT OF THE (UNIVERSAL) SUBJECT. THUS HE BECOMES THE LORD OF THE WHEEL. If one is the universal subject and firmly established in that place, I see how you are now "One, with no second", but then how can one also be empty?
  21. What is Non-duality?

    Not sure what you are trying to say here? That the "presence that knows the quiet mind" is the "natural state"?
  22. What is Non-duality?

    That too many mistake the natural state for a momentarily quiet mind.
  23. What is Non-duality?

    I think there is much confusion about what resting in presence/space really is or means. I think this an issue for both eastern and western students, but also across traditions.
  24. Zen

    Any specifics that you can share with that point? Some sutra or something?
  25. Does music deplete qi/jing?

    Music can be extremely valuable to a spiritual practioner. The key is to stay focused in the moment and just listening to the music. Different music resonates at different layers in the mind. So the type of music you choose will make a big difference.