Jeff

Personality is found when one attaches conceptions to a flow. Often even cause and effect viewed from a (ego) perspective is seen as a personality. Here is a pretty good description from the Tao Te Ching to answer your question... CHAPTER 25 Something mysteriously formed, born before Heaven and Earth. In silence and from within the void. Alone and constant, ever present and flowing. It is the Mother of the Ten Thousand Things. I do not know its name, so I call it Dao. For lack of a better word I call it great. Being great it flows. It nourishes the Ten Thousand Things far and away. From whence it came I do not know. Therefore the Dao is great. Heaven is great. Earth is great. The Ten Thousand Things are great. These are the four great powers of the Universe, And one of them is the Ten Thousand Things. Man follows the Earth. Earth follows Heaven. Heaven follows the Dao. Dao is what is natural. Your feet, stomach and head are simply part of Man in the above description. Look/feel beyond the (local) body-mind.

Very well said.

Attachments are desires wrapped in energetic connections. Loving ice cream or addicted to smoking are examples. On cannot be attached to the Dao, but one can be attached to the mental concept of the Dao.

Really no such thing as past (or future), just really an expanded present (now). Or for those who enjoy the Tao Te Ching... CHAPTER 6 The root of Heaven and Earth, can be found in its spirit. Search and feel this spirit, for it is ever present; the gateway to all mysteries. The spirit is the primordial mother of the ten thousand things. It is ever present and eternal.

Ah got it. As I said with the shielding example, your permission or not really makes no difference on my accessing your space. I just prefer not to be rude and don't intrude where not wanted. If you are interested in the topic specifically, there are a few threads discussing the topic. On a related topic, there are threads discussing the potential issues around energy flows in the old chatroom specifically. It was because of fears/concerns like yours, that management limited the days on which energy work was allowed in the chatroom, as people were worried about natural bleed over even when not directly involved. The challenge is that for most, they subconsciously connect anyways. Takes a pretty quiet mind to not spill and transmit all over the place, but most people being "hit by it" are not yet sensitive enough to notice the details.

Seal of what or on what? Guess I don't understand your point.

If you cannot in your dream, then it sounds like you have some work to do with your lucid dreaming. But, I also do not see how that relates to the seal point?

Not in my view. It is like energy shielding, a wall only exists for a mind that believes a wall exists.

All interaction is effectively a form of invitation. So yes, to underlying question... you could say that it is dangerous to talk to me.

It is just my personal policy, but everyone has their own view on such things. Plus, I do not implant things (or transmit).My approach is more the clearing out of the obstructions that block the realizations of what was always really there underneath in the first place. Or, you could say that in my view it is better to be a black hole than a sun.

Not try to show you your place or put you down. Just telling you what I notice.

Not surprising.

You have a very easy signal to find and it is embedded in your posts. You also have significant subconscious mental activity going on when you mediate.

One point is that there is no doer? What do you mean? Are you describing a Hindu based Brahman concept? Anxiety is a fear based reaction, does that mean that you are feeling fear with me? Also, did you mean "sending" instead of "suing" above? I am not sending any energy, though you may be feeling some flowing if you are focusing on me (or your attacking me).

Understandable on the scary. The medium is really more the absense of perceived separation. I "know" that nothing separates us, so nothing does. In physics terms, you could say that deep down we are kind of like quantum computers that are entangled.

What you seem to be describing is that with the emotions, you are feeling the underlying energy of them directly. The bliss you are feeling probably comes with the momentary single point of mental focus. Just let me know if you want to check specifically, or give you a little blast of my own.

I would agree. Lucid dreaming is a form of working on single point concentration (or part of the first Jhana). That is also why it is sometimes called "delightful sensations". Those sensations are the vibrations that you mentioned feeling earlier. With greater clarity (full single point concentration), those vibrations can start to feel really, really good, effectively better feeling than sex.

No problem at all. More to discuss on the lucid dreaming point?

How am I now talking against you, I thought we were simply discussing lucent dreaming. Also, I don't see the problem if you want to disagree with me, as I am not that attached to my views.

Yes, your description of feeling vibrations in a specific spot is very natural. Over time and with greater clarity, those vibrations will be felt all over the body with increasing smoothness. Having someone who is of the oposite sex and sexual is also very natural and common. As I mentioned earlier, with a lucid dream you are touching on your subconscious, so issues, desires and fears naturally arise in such situations.

Ok, a lucid dream is your conscious mind touching on your subconscious aspects of mind. The energy that you subconsciously feel is sort of translated into a visual experience in your mind. The energy itself can be from your local body and nervous system, or at higher levels of consciousness it can be from perceptions/sources beyond the local body-mind. Just depends on the relative mental clarity of the person. A very advanced person will have little to no dreams at all, as the energy just flows through clearly and is not "translated" as such.

More attacking? Must be challenging (and exhausting) to constantly feel that you are being attacked. No superiority here. Actually, not much at all here. But, did you mean the question on lucid dreaming to me, or was it for someone else? Happy to discuss it if you would like.

Silence and energy are like two sides of the same coin. Silence is the transmission side, energy (feeling it) is the reception side. One side is like digging a hole deeper, the other is like filling the hole up with clear water. Back and forth it goes. Like being opposite sides of a spectrum, everyone tends to lean to one side or the other. Different traditions are based upon this perceptional difference. At deeper levels, it is seen that they are really the same thing. Ultimately energy is simply the motion of silence.

For verse 20... It is the teaching of religious rules, and their morality that create the problems. Honestly, is there truly a difference between concept of yes and no, between good and evil? Do such concepts lead to anything other than fear? Simply drop all such nonsense. People get caught with enjoying the feast of the world, constantly trying to climb higher in status, But I instead drift in the wind, not caught up in attachments. Like a newborn baby, even before it has attached to its mother, with a clear mind and no home. To others focused on worldly things, I appear confused and have nothing. To those strong and brave, I appear slow and weak. To those who are scholarly and intelligent, I appear muddled and stupid. As I simply drift in sea of the Dao, I appear aimless, while others chase goals. But that is not really the case, as I am constantly nourished by the great mother (ever more one with the Dao).

While 19 is pretty self evident, here are a few thoughts on it... Forget about chasing spiritual purity, and trying to save everyone with what you think you know or think you have realized. For if people simply reside in the natural state, there is no need for morality and religion. Give up trying to be clever (or better/higher) than others, as such desire leads to jealousy and stealing. Such accomplishment are only temporary and do not lead to the Dao. Instead, the Dao is simply found in residing in one's true nature. This can be done by clearing the mind and letting go of (ego based) desires.