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Everything posted by Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan
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The Strange and Bitter Wisdom of Wong (long composite article)
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to thelerner's topic in The Rabbit Hole
#6 is invalid. It presumes that it was worse for the previous generation to experience their lives by comparison to how much easier THEIR lives are TODAY, but WE younger generations HAVE NOT YET developed coping skills. Unless we were born in the ghetto, then if we didn't cope, we died. #5 still enforces the corporate/banking dominion which is anti-hippie, so piss off, kindly. I'd rather be a sponge that DOES NOT DIRECTLY contribute to the established paradigm than to get an office or industrial job for Monsanto or GM. Im not against jobs and working, im against contributing to "necessary evils" simply because you need a dollar to your name. the fact of the matter, the dollar to your name prerequisite is sick and unhealthy., We have solar power for fuck's sakes, why do we need to buy electricity? We have improved permaculture and horticulture so vastly so as to have raised garden beds and yet no one knows how to teach this? Well certainly not without money... which is more useful to spend on food than it is an education. cant eat an education. EVERYTHING revolves around currency exchange. If you cant see that as unhealthy, then i'm pleased to break it to you: YOU are a sociopath. -
The Way of Infinite Harmony (Ma Gu hemp goddess)
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to nova_b's topic in Daoist Discussion
Cannabis has been a powerful influence in curbing my violent thoughts and desires for absolutions, which has helped me cultivate a perspective of the world that we are all innocent and we are all equal. Of course, im not smoking it legally, nor do I have a consistent access, so my temperament is often 'allowed' to overflow with anger from time to time... not healthy, but... alchemically so, it isn't unhealthy. But regardless of personal impact, or how stoned I am, my behavior is rarely socially acceptable. -
The Strange and Bitter Wisdom of Wong (long composite article)
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to thelerner's topic in The Rabbit Hole
work in progress: (#5. The Hippies Were Wrong) is wrong: The hippies know their shit, and sociopathic "norm" is NOT healthy. if you want to advocate #5, then feel free, but I can guarantee, you're part of the problems, never any part of any solution. Learning to live with "necessary evils" is never necessary, for evils are never necessary and only the product of desire. IF desire is necessary, then all arguments are invalid in every argument ever; ethics and law have no meaning and we cannot hold ourselves accountable for our own actions. That is, of course, if desire is in and of itself necessary. In which case, would explain why invention has such an ugly mother. -
If you haven't seen this, you should...
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Songtsan's topic in General Discussion
It is indeed so simple in fact! All things macro have all things micro with equivalencies. The structure of the universe is said to resemble the structure of the neurons in the brain... The structure of our galaxy does not resemble the structure of a hurricane? The structure of a reflection is the reflection of the structure of reality. The structure of reality is a reflection of 'gnowing' (to borrow terminological distinguishment from another member) oneself. -
Being Poor and Happy is Sexy, My Epiphany
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to becomethepath's topic in The Rabbit Hole
It is because our families, clans, and communities are broken up and disseminated by the legal and economic control over our ways of life and means of acquisition. We're killed from the womb, out; here in America. -
Asshole, the unsung hero of our body.
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to hydrogen's topic in The Rabbit Hole
im suspicious of the moral of this story... it got me suspended -
So I heard about this thing called Facebook...
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Aaron's topic in The Rabbit Hole
facebook.com/jdturnerthe1st I don't use it for what I started using it for; t ostay in touch with family and friends. Like you said, epic proportion propaganda machine. Friend me or get spaghetticockmonstertentacleraped -
The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
All I can say about this is that so long as free will is not treated as sacred law, everyone and everything is and will be wrong. I cannot comprehend any semblance of "justice" that does not consider free will, consent, and personhood as validation factors. a law that is validated by money is an unjust law. -
U.S. funded genocide in Indonesia - new documentary
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to voidisyinyang's topic in The Rabbit Hole
From where I stand, from how I was raised, loyalty is only ever earned and never ever inborn. I was taught to respect those who respect me, to treat others with as much decency as I am treated with. From the television and media to the supermarket and internet, Americans are by and large self important and irresponsible for their own self which they claim to be so important. Every "responsible and independent" American is fully neglecting to acknowledge their reliance on either a paycheck or welfare or acknowledge how irresponsible they are to allow their money to be taxed-and then turned around and spent on anti-American values, such as corporations and their bailouts, and war for the sake of war-money. AMERICAN values are truth, liberty, justice, and freedom. anything that runs contrary to the maintenance of a mutually equalized free people is neither responsible, nor valuable, most certainly contrary to the American constitution, and least of all Humane. So YEAH, you're DAMN RIGHT im going to bad-mouth America. For such noble ambitions as "all men are created equal" America has my unyielding hope and admiration, but for failure to secure and maintain this pie in the sky, America is unforgivable. Family, clan, community. THESE things make us American. Not big business, corporate welfare, bailouts, bank accounts, or federation. -
The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
I'm here. I matter. You're here. You matter. WE'RE ALL here, we ALL matter. And before you go defending the douchebags and assholes: We are all equal: Those who trespass upon the free will of others speak into existence that they have no free will, and you may do unto them as you please, for they have, by disregarding the free will of another, forsaken consent and relinquished any rights thereof. Yeah, I admit, im being a total asshole on these forums, to drive my point home, to open your eyes and ears to the truth of the reality of free will, which you all possess in your own hearts, as sovereign and ultimate authorities over your own selves. I've embraced it, that makes me selfish and greedy. the king of evil. I want to share this gift, but it is a gift which cannot be given or lent or borrowed. I must CONVINCE you to secure immortal freedom. weather you live forever, or just long enough to satisfy this lifetime. I want to satisfy every life, mine included. but I cannot focus on my life alone, that would leave me miserable. I want to see the natural environment of the earth, live in a natural humane community of tribal people. I would move there if I knew where there was AND HOW TO GET THERE! Why, in god's name why, do you think I'd be here, bitching, if I could be there working and living?!? I swear, you make it out like im some kind of delusional criminally insane threat. -
hah there's already the tao bums uncut XD haha but that's really hardly more than a "sub pit" that genuinely removes moderation from the equation http://taouncut.forum.com.bz/ The only "moderation" I can fathom taking place there is hacker defense XD You're right about the tea shop atmosphere... just ought to restrict the conversation to tea shop atmosphere aswell if that was to be maintained. That's definitely good for the lobby, Taoist, and general discussion, methinks... but now we're off topic. we left the tea house. Nah, not good place for steamy and heated discussion, but off topic enough that it will almost certainly hit the more somber or melancholy chords. This is where the non-tea-house Taoists are going to be found, the restless souls that find no solace in simply reflecting on the goods while "dealing with" or ignoring the ills or bads. Taoist forum, a forum about balance, yang AND YIN TOO. I got booted for being as yin as I am, regardless of the semantics, it boils down to there being "no place for" that level of yin, on this board. Yet the counterpart yang seems to be permitted to thrive. It's the concierge afterall.
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I AM SELF EMPOWERED. CALL UPON THINE TRUE SELF AND FIND YOUR UNIQUE HARMONY. Why seek a teacher when you are in a forum full of information which can initiate the mind to become its own master and breach the bondage of time and space with your own mind to procure the mysteries of the universe in a single thought??? This comment alone should initiate many as it is, should initiation truly be sought by its readers!
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The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
The sad part is I am trying to motivate you, but you're okay with it... you don't mind how much potential you've given away with nothing in return... you're okay with subliminating and suppressing your own freedom, compromising. You're fine with an uncompromising "necessary evil" paradigm... You're okay with being a program without free will... Free will to be the programmed anarch... so beautifully contradictory yet infuriatingly hypocritical... To be so unwilling to think for yourself that you will elect someone to do it for you... I cannot help but wonder against wonder why it is that I am not allowed to be so indignantly offended by this mentality as being a dominant power over my own life... my environment controlled by a majority of mindless drones programmed to think and act a certain way in a grand and majestic orchestra thrust upon me against my will, without my consent?! An act of war upon my person that goes unnoticed, ignored, played down, scoffed, ridiculed, suspended from public view. But I will immortalize myself even if only to spite each and every responsible party, as to piss on all your graves and watch your matter be wasted for an eternity. -
What does the Dao say about fighting?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Lotus7's topic in Daoist Discussion
Instant failure. Free will is absolute. Prove me wrong, that the rock does not seek to be as a rock and do as a rock, that the free human does not seek to be free and humane. Respecting the free will of your environment, persons, places, and things. That is universal morality; that is omniversiality. I have it. Prove me wrong. -
so STFU! Inside jokes are SO mature Silence, Shh! Shush, shush.
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The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
So no one thinks for themselves? got it. im an alien. fuck humans. -
Oh, so coy... I meant how did I wind up with it?
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I read that as: adaptability
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We do not stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.
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The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
STOP TRYING TO ENFORCE YOUR WILL ON OTHERS!!! It's a total dick move. An anarchist is his or her own police, judge, jury, or executioner. and no body or person externally of them has any authority over their actions until those actions infringe upon the consensual free will of another individual. Whence free will is trespassed, consent disregarded, only then is a crime committed, only then is the policing activity necessary. With personal judgement, a man strikes yo uand you respond. tour response is the, THE, example of your sovereignty AS AN ANARCH. If you respond with consideration for your opponent, you will not allow things to escalate on your doing; and should they escalate on your opponent's part, you are in the right to defend yourself or peers to whatever means are evidently necessary; no sense crying over spilled milk - if they become violent and have to be subdued, then so be it. What does not make sense is to think that we the people are incapable of learning how to govern ourselves and become our own individual cop/judge/jury/executioner. Someone pulls a knife on me, im not going to wait around for justice to come save me, im going to end that motherfucker's life on the spot. no such need for violence. It cannot be permitted. those who permit such activities are not in the favor of ethics or justice, they just see a potential resource to manipulate: Law. -
U.S. funded genocide in Indonesia - new documentary
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to voidisyinyang's topic in The Rabbit Hole
Solutions. Please. -
The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
Those in government typically deem it fit to be "apart from" THE people. either above or below but never mutually beside the people. They are therefore either considered lesser than or greater than THE PEOPLE. that means they think they are better than yo uand me and entitled to more, or WE think they are nothing but slaves and give them nothing. Which side of the boat are WE on right now? We're treating government like it has authority over us! that is bullshit. THEY serve the people, not the people serving. the people have fought slavery since the establishment of civilization. this is an ongoing fight. don't you want TO END IT ALREADY?!? REFUSE to allow dominance/submission relationships to form between governing bodies and the people... REFUSE to imprison nonviolent individuals, REFUSE to allow yourself to be detained - lay down on the ground arms out, stand still like a statue, dont resist with action, resist with inaction. Do not allow yourself to contribute to anything that might produce harm, do not ever allow yourself to contribute to a way of life that permits the disregard of individual free will. Never are there free people whose governments are made up of individuals who do not live side by side with the free people. Never can a people have freedom so long as they allow themselves to be governed by others. Never can an individual who refuses to be governed ever be free while there are those of YOU who believe, as you appear to believe, that self-governance can never be wide spread, taught, or shared. You REALLY think the majority of people would refuse to be taught how to be free? Seems freedom is something EVERYONE wants, so why not start providing the PROPER EXAMPLES, instead of talking about it online and arguing about the semantics? I live my every day in pure defiance of false authority, Read as: The only proper authority I can or will recognize is that of the ultimate being responsible for all of reality; as whom can only exist in the mind, I am my only valid and official and acknowledgeable authority. WE ALL know the truth between right and wrong IN OUR HEARTS; we can do no wrong without feeling the pain of our wrongfulness in our hearts, we can do no correct without feeling a sense of pride in our hearts, we cannot bring a smile to a face without knowing the joy, we cannot inflict pain upon another without knowing, in our own hearts, that pain was forced upon another against their free will. It gets even more complicated when we have to address a person who has neglected their own hearts and inflicted crimes against others, that we know they are living feeling beings just like us and to punish them will hurt them as much as they hurt others, but if their actions prove to be harmful and disregard the free wills of others, they have effectively spoken into existence the deprivation of their own free will and can be apprehended without committing a crime. THIS MEANS THAT EVERY GOVERNMENTAL BODY, OFFICIAL, AND PERSON CAN BE REMOVED BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY WITHOUT EVER COMMITTING A CRIME! This means that forgiveness is a punishment, a test, but not a reward, as the truly innocent need not be forgiven things they have never done, and the ashamed will feel the guilt of their actions for the rest of their lives. Those who squander forgiveness can be killed on the spot without it being murder. Ethically speaking, Free will can be the only just set of laws which promote and maintain life, liberty, and equality. THAT is Anarchy. -
The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to Formless Tao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
I still do not believe PEOPLE let alone HUMAN people have ANYTHING to do with governments or world affairs... so.... let's wipe them out and get them off our planet. all they seem to do is fuck it all up for the people. not themselves, of course not. just everyone else. "the rest of us". -
What made YOU laugh today/tonight ?
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan replied to zerostao's topic in The Rabbit Hole
I'm unsuspended. Still have no regard for ToS Humanity > politics. Period. 100% of the time. Read another way: User > ToS and yet another way: Alive > Inanimate here, again: Factual, breathing, creative, aware > anything written down, agreed upon, conceived of in the mind, or lacking inherent free will -
Good quote by the way... "an eye for an eye; all blind" Paraphrased poorly.