Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan

If i am to keep it to PMs, i hope you will too.

I learn something new about old experiences every day! Did i really do that? Contact spirits in the void? I think i've entered an "amnesia" contract... must be pretty big, cuz i'd want to remember contacting let alone contracting spirits! But what you say suggests a lot... That my time spent in the void produced something creative in and of me... then to list 20 spiritual patrons of the elements... And now to learn that what i had done was closely related to maintaining a Grimoire? I dont believe in Coincidences And since i was fully intending to basically write up a mini "bio" for each patron of their respective element... i guess that makes me a Mage? It all started out innocently enough as a pursuit of truth.... that's still all "it" is. but i cant help but take a step back at the moment and go "wow, really? i did that? me? wow!". However i am also of the understanding that it isnt that "I" am "doing" this, but rather that this is happening through "me".

set up an underground septic compactor, and grow a garden on top HAW!

Earth has no master! God has no race, Spirit has no limit, I have no face. You're my slaves, armies self made, I command your lives, divided, you will fall. This world will be mine; For I control your whole view. Maybe inherited by the meek But given to me by you. Save up enough money to live your own life, and i will take everything! ~Civilization and the Banks.

I, personally, believe you owe me %10, just for reading what you were payed to write. i feel like you owe me sommathat. otherwise, i want my time back wasted reading that!

I think pythagoreanfulllotus Is being unfairly misunderstood, and it even appears deliberately so. When there is a problem, and someone wants to fix it, why am i called a nut case for standing up and pointing out the broken links in the chain; when i try to repair them, other people jump to their soapboxes or guns and attack me as if i were the problem, for pointing out a problem. Drew has pointed out many connections between blue's situation (as well as my own) and 'his' "nut-job agenda", ultimately castrating any effort to produce a solution for either bluemonk or myself, LET ALONE THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE AFFECTED LIKEWISE. The civilized world has come to a point where further contribution to its "progress" will only damn the human species into bondage and slavery. And what, im going through a chemical imbalance? FUCK YOU.

i'd "dislike" your comment, but the boards dont let me. You've got it all wrong, and how.

then the path is clear All at whence mud leaves your prints, The clear, beaten path.

" The Ultimate Tao, In One Simple Statement" "I Am."

I do not know what i have, or what I might lose, or "what" to let go "of"?

still seems like the same as saying "haw, haw! you're suffering and cant change that, all you are allowed to do is shut your mind off and take it like a bitch" No offense.

same boat, different place in the world. haw... Granted, most things werent so bad as that for me, since i preemptively removed myself from potential situations like that, and was home schooled after 6'th grade. Society is infected with a psychological disease which causes depression in people who are sensitive, and aggression in people who are insensitive. This is deliberate, and the central banks are suspect, but truly, i know no truth of who is responsible for the sad state of affairs this so-called "civilized" world experiences and enforces.

the question is: What are the *13 things* that combine with these beings to (re)present the "next level"?

; An Awareness; A String; An Electron; An Atom; A Molecule; An Element; A Single Cell; An Organism; A Host; An Organ; *A Body*; A Vehicle; A Home; A Clan; A Territory; A Geological Mass; A World; A Solar System; A Galaxy; A Universe; A Consciousness; These are all Being. Each one a person. Each one an individual amongst like individuals. Each one Conscious and Aware. Each one with the Free Will to make choices within the limitations of their *construct*. Each one with the capability of mimicry of similar constructs, within range of their own construct's capabilities. Humans are the sum total of all things and in the center of creation; can mimic and represent all constructs.

So I found a good read when I was younger, maybe 10 years ago or so, a book by Mary Summerrain called The Phoenix Rising. Another book she wrote, Dreamwalker, spoke of a concept that has been on my mind for a while and I figured it's time to just hash it out and put it into words. Maybe get some answers just doing so, but it's here as well, for discussion. (note, for some reason I cannot use the enter key to add vertical spaces between paragraphs, this wont be easy to read.) So! SummerRain makes note of something genuine: That a holy person, sage, monk, or other spiritually aware and/or advanced person's lifestyle is irrelevant. You can be a dreamwalker, as noted in this book, even though you drink sodas, smoke cigarettes, and eat red meat. MAYBE spiritual titles are irrelevant, that this applies across the board, or perhaps it's only relevant to dreamwalkers? It rings true, in my ears, that a physical lifestyle influences only the physical life-world, and is irrelevant regarding spiritual and/or psychic experiences and ability. So I am wondering to myself if it matters a person's sexuality, gender, diet, habits, addictions, or lifestyles have any genuine meaning in regards to practicing anything of the spiritual/energic sort? I personally do not believe smoking dope and promiscuity are going to directly inhibit immortality, but as with all things, everything in moderation...

utter ridicule is warranted on account of your first sentence alone. Duality found within nonduality is still not so black and white as to say humans are not natural beings! Citizens and Civilians are not natural beings, senators, officers, presidents, monarchs, and bankers, are not natural beings, but HUMANS, whom have the free will to walk any of those paths, are natural beings!

If there is any karma, it is to be inevitably incarnated as every victim you have ever created. period. Were you Hitler? You would have been every jew whom suffered that man too.

need more camping trips

redundant theoretical conditions are no gauge for moral truth for "what if" is fear; while "what is" is truth. Truth is we all have free will and no voluntary and/or intentional action is morally questionable so long as there are no victims. To trespass upon this shared intrinsic right is the only genuine "wrong"; any and all "perceived wrongs" can be proven by testing this measurement of "right and wrong": "Is there any natural person or persons who will be harmfully affected without prior consent and therefore a victim?" and "Did the person or persons responsible for this perceived wrong knowingly continue an act or pursuit that perpetuated the non-consensual harm?" When people say there is "wrong" in the world, or "evil" or "bad", are the things that are considered harmful caused by a willful act of consent by either party of victim or criminal? A "what if" example is only a fear tactic, not a love tactic. fear only enslaves the mind and body. Love can embrace even fear without harm or bondage.

I think therefore I am? Idealist, imagineer, creator, deity, source; Idea. Mind and matter are not dualistic never the less.

If i were to live forever, i wouldnt gauge my actions or concern myself with indirect and unrelated affairs, yet all at once still remain involved in the world around me as i approach it and/or it approaches me. All persons, places, and things are natural environments with which i would simply harmonize with eternally without concern for how it were expressed; as either violent, tender, sensitive, numb, or passionate. For this is an experience for which only one true statement can encompass: "I Am."

a little of column A, a little from pillar B, and Tier C has everything i need.

alternate ending #1: The wind is coming As I breathe in: Low pressure Complete exhale. Complete exhale. High pressure front in tummy... The wind is coming.

I know madness and insanity, i watched myself dive into the deep ends of the void with neither care nor whim, observed fully consciously of the psychoses and insanities that lie within reality and keep allowing nature to take its course. Sometimes fear manifests, sometimes fear is none-the-issue. I've known I've gone and been going insane and have full awareness of it the whole way through, yet i cannot help but wonder if i am not in fact saner than you? For having put upon myself the unwanted undesirable stress of the mind's bounds i am insane? do i... THINK "too much"? what of it to be that i am more or less sane than any other person for thinking, believing, acting, or surviving any differently than they; an animal is not insane to live in nature, naked, and wild, yet a human to behave as such is? Now that, i believe, is a truly insane perspective. In what [natural] condition is killing NOT okay when your [perceived] vital safety in threatened? Life and death are neither separate nor identical, yet still one whole; and to consciously fear one is to wholly fear the other subconsciously... balance is nature, nature is balance, and to resist our nature is to struggle, pursue endlessly without bearing fruit, and to fear. Fear is the chain that binds. Fear is the oil that keeps the parts running the machine. Fear is the faith that evil is ever necessary. Fear is the program installed in the slave, to drive them without resistance. Fear of death is fear of life. Fear of pain is fear of comfort. Clinging to life will poison and kill us, clinging to comfort will wear us and tear us. We are all one, and fear will divide us.