wudangspirit

To tame the "mind" you need to detach from the concept of mind. Use the external methods in order to go beyond the concept of method and turn your mind inward until there is no mind.

I think it is important to note that what we call the "yin/ yang" symbol in the West is not a Yin/Yang it is called Taiji (Tai Chi). That will make more since to us if we explain the theory more by calling Yin and Yang separated as Liang Yi and so on and so forth. Once the process of creation is formed then we will also understand the notion of "returning" as our goal is to become immortal. Getting from 10,000 myriad things to Taiji is quite a feat in itself.

Some good points and totally agree! Shen in chinese means spirit. The duality of Yin and Yang in separation stages as described below is called Liang Yi. If we can return to Wuji through transmuting jing to qi and qi to shen we can eventually break out of the cycle and our spirit can be immortal. The theory of creation applies to all things in existence. Wuji - Taiji - Liang Yi - Wuxing- Bagua - 10,000 things. So we have to go back to stillness. From stillness comes motion and perfect the quality then can be transmuted and eventually give birth to our spirit.

Your Tao is your Tao. I hope your find it and it brings peace to your spirit. Tao Bless you

I see your point but I hope you are just not experiencing a deep state of depression. I say what I say from the heart to another human being. If that is your Tao that is your Tao. Do you have enough $$$ to get yourself to China? If so, maybe some of your friends here at Tao Bums can arrange something for you. Tao Bless, Wudangspirit

Pie Guy, It seems you haven't found the balance. Getting aways from what it reality is not the answer. You have to apply the philosophy to your current situation and still you rmind. Running away from the outside world isn't going to let you run away from yourself. More cultivation will show you that. If you goal is to get some land and become a hermit then the reality is just as you said already. You'll have to partake in real life and work for what you want. That is true reality. Cultivating yourself to live in the real world is the ultimate in self cultivation and living the true Tao. If you do the work you'll see clearly through to your goal and learn to detach from emotion. Don't play a game of Hero, Persecutor and Victim of your self. Breaking free of that is true liberation. Tao Bless, Wudangspirit

Thanks for the kind words about Master Chen. I to am now bobbing and weaving. That cat is pretty good. Hhahahahah. Tao Bless

Under the two main umbrellas of Taoism there is Zheng Yi and Quanzhen Under Quanzhen there are numerous sects: At Wudang you have Longmen (Dragon Gate) Zhang Sanfeng (known for martial arts) Baxianmen (8 Immortal Branch) and so forth.

I wrote yesterday that I wasn't going on that trip. However, I will be in Wudang at the same time now as my Master will on his trip (Master Chen) so we're going to join him for the Wudang portion. I've been there with him in the past and Wudang is wonderful. Master Chen is a direct lineage holder of the 14th Generation Zhang Sanfeng Branch as well as 25th Generation Wudang Longmen Branch. When you're at Wudang with him their is much respect shown for Master Chen and you'll get to go places that tourists don't get to go. Tao Bless, Wudangspirit

Master Chen is a very genuine priest from Wudang with a loving and caring demeanor. I've been a close student of his for many years and I cannot say enough about him. His coming trip will be an excellent journey for sure. Unfortunately this year I won't be going as my wife and I are going to China earlier before that and will get to Wudang before the group does. However, keep up with the blogs...there may be something there for you... Tao Bless, Wudangspirit - 26th Generation Wudang Longmen Sect

That's the method I learn by. hahahah. Very nice

Zai Jian Tao Bless Tao kou Tao Feichang Tao Ming kou Ming Feichang Ming

You can send an email to my Master who is a known healer and Qigong Master at Wudang if you're in that part of the country. His website is www.wudangtao.com. thanks, Wudangspirit

Brother Lin, Tao Bless you man! That's all I need to say. Oh, yeah. I need to add this as well... You are right on every level and one who attains need not to talk. Teaching no talking. Cultivation is within not without. It is for ourselves to cultivate our Tao or Buddhahood. We need not to play a game with charlatans. We don't need to give up our own power to someone or something that does not share the same air and nature we breathe. Thanks for your comments on Li Jiong. This person will never wake up from his dream. Wudangspirit One must master him/herself first in order to master others. then once he/she master's themselve they will give up the need to master others. That takes loving and forgiving yourself first. Heal yourself first Li Jiong and Tao Bless you.

I don't think anyone should be banned. At least he's entertaining. If he thinks he's the only one who can attain the level he thinks he has attained then that's his business. At least we are entertained and get hours of conversation out of it. Wudangspirit

I was wondering what your thoughts were on Ego?

Wow, you must be an immortal now being able to shed your body whenever you want and travel the cosmos! Wowwwww!!!!. I don't think anyone who has accomplished this goal would post it on an online discussion board. What are you trying to prove. We're not that naive. Wudangspirit

Li Jiong, Just wondering how you know you're the only school who can do this? What gives you this idea? Wudangspirit

I would go to the Taoist College at Wudangshan to continue my formal training and be an official priest. Plan on doing that once our temple is built in the US anyway but I'd like to go through the formal training there. Can go through some of it right now but not all yet. Wudangspirit (Zhong Xu)

Yep and I was purely talking of the training that I have had, not from your book or Master Wang's lineage. All the branches do have different methods. I was stating what I was taught, not of my interpretation. So please make it clearer next time where you are coming from okay. Ape, In the Wudang Longmen Sect we especially practice Taiji, Qigong, Neijiachuan(internal kung fu) and Alchemy training. They are a complete system so we practice them all. Wudangspirit Ape, We have a full system of training. However, it's always best to learn that from a true teacher. I would say learn that from my Master but that would be biased. If it's Wudang methods however, he is the one to go to. If it's other sects or practices, I don't know. We can discuss offline if you're really interested. Wudangspirit[ quote name=Spirit Ape' date='Oct 1 2008, 02:10 PM' post='81231] Wudang, Please keep posting i enjoy reading your information! I have one question since you been through the stages already, can you tell us without giving away too much secrets of course if there is any what type of exercises or methods you do for the Huan Yuan at the beginning? Is it standing or sitting practices, moving seated or standing practices? Are they like Tao Yin with meditation (stillness)? Thanks very much! Spirit Ape

I won't argue with anyone however, I too am from the Longmen sect and I have gone through this training. I don't study from books or translation however, may read them for pure fun. This is a pretty bold statements made from someone I don't know. I was putting it into the simplest form I could for people to understand. I am open for suggestion however, I'd keep my comments to myself if you do not know who you are talking about (me). I don't go by literal translations and books. I go purely by what I am taught and I share some of that with people who really want to know not with those who already know everything. Tao Bless you! Wudangspirit

I would suggest finding someone who has training firsthand in the Dragon Gate Sect. Translating this books are good for reading but you should have someone tell you what they actually mean. Someone who can give you what the correct training would be from square one. Tao Bless, Wudangspirit