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Before we get sidetracked into the same diatribe present in other threads, let us stay on point. Which is this: Ch25 of Laozi certainly does present Tao as an ontological essence of the universe that exists before the formation of Heaven and Earth The Taoist principle of changing phenomenon is perfectly uniform with the Buddhist dependent origination UNTIL we "get back" to the universal origin of Tao Then we are presented with the mystery that Tao follows it's own nature, that there is no other 'something' that Tao originates from

Here is a decent warm up sequence: It's not the Fa Soong Gong that I teach but this will do. The first objective for beginners is to loosen the body (Soong) and create some internal coordination. Enjoy your Taiji journey

Priceless !!!

LOL ... Thanks, but it isn't really much at the moment. Work is occupying all my focus so I haven't been able to progress with it in ages.

Kungfu Magazine: E-Zine Feature Article Master Chen, James and Shou MeiIn the summer of 2008, Grandmaster Chen Yun Ching of Taichung, Taiwan, youngest son of Chen Pan Ling and heir to his father's martial arts legacy, invited 19 students from the United States and Australia to come to Taiwan in January, 2009. They were to attend a training seminar and be part of a special traditional Chinese ceremony called Bai Shi (pronounced By Shur), in which the student asks the Master to share his knowledge (literally, it translates as "Ask teacher for knowledge"). This also included Master Chen's adopted brother James Sumarac and his wife Shou Mei, from Australia. My fellow instructor Jim Ransom and I were selected from the Rochester T'ai Chi Ch'uan Center in Rochester New York to be among those privileged few to become Master Chen's first "Inner Door" students. Master Chen's invitation read: Master Chen made the Bai Shi announcements in 2008, a Rat year, which is considered a time of hard work and renewal, and a good year to make a fresh start. The upcoming Ox year of 2009 was auspicious, and good timing for the Bai Shi ceremony. Ox years typically represent hard work and place great emphasis on authority and tradition. The concepts of hard work, renewal, auspicious timing and tradition all contributed to making this ceremony quite meaningful. The location of our training and ceremony was the Kaohsiung Confucius Temple located on Lotus Lake in Kaohsiung's Zuoying District. Taiwan's largest Confucius temple, it is modeled on the Sung Dynasty's unique and majestic architectural style. The main building - Tacheng Hall - is very much like the Taihe Hall from the Forbidden City in Beijing. One day during a break in our training, we visited a paper umbrella factory in the Hakaa village of Meinong. The making of painted oiled paper umbrellas was a tradition brought over to Taiwan from the mainland by a local businessman in the 1920s. The paper umbrella symbolizes prosperity and is a symbol of good luck for the Hakka people. The word used to describe the umbrella's rounded top is yuan, which is pronounced the same as the word for completeness, so umbrellas came to represent the good fortune that keeps people together. What's more, the word for umbrella (san) is made up of a group of people under a cover, and can also represent unity. Master Chen touched on this idea in his speech after the ceremony, likening our group to the spines of the umbrella supporting the whole structure of his teachings, his legacy: "Today I see a vision, I see us as an umbrella, many small pieces supporting larger pieces; if there is a small piece missing, it will weaken the larger pieces." Nearly everything we saw or did in Taiwan seemed related to history, tradition and legacy - whether it was training in the martial arts of Chen Pan Ling on the grounds of a Confucian temple, visiting a famous Buddhist temple high on a hill, or touring a historic Hakaa village where early "visitors" settled. It all culminated in an emotion-filled ceremony based upon tradition, honor and respect. Tradition, Honor, Respect These qualities of life are what the ancient Chinese ceremony of Bai Shi is all about. It's about preserving a tradition - passing a legacy from father to son, from teacher to student. Some traditions may mean family rituals practiced during the holidays or at special occasions such as a birth, marriage, or death. It may involve the family's religious practices and may include food that the whole family recognizes as part of its heritage. Bai Shi, a ceremony with ritual elements conducted by a master in whom one or more students "enter the door" to become disciples, involves all of these and more. It honors a unique bond - and respect - between Master and student. With the conclusion of the Bai Shi ceremony, the student and Master are connected through an "adoption" or a formal extension of his family unit, in which the "inner door student" is officially recognized as the next generation in the lineage of the Master. The ceremony signifies the student's commitment to the school, to the founder, to his master and to his kung fu "brothers and sisters," and in our case also to our "uncle" and "aunt." The Master recognizes this commitment by allowing the student to "enter the door" and reciprocates by giving the student true and open transmission of his art. The student can now be referred to as Men Ren, literally "disciple or gatekeeper," and is no longer a mere student. Students merit selection for Bai Shi by showing sincerity, commitment, good character, and high skill level and are given some form of diploma - in our case, a personal certificate signed by Master Chen, Uncle James and Aunt Mei. Traditionally, a Bai Shi ceremony is a secretive event. However, in the Bai Shi ceremony conducted by Chen Yun Ching in 2009, the concept of secrecy was altered, as the ceremony was really about establishing a public proclamation of our commitment to the Chen Pan Ling Martial Arts system. The Bai Shi ceremony was, and is, in keeping with the overall ethos and direction set by Chen Pan Ling himself of overall transparency, in sharing his knowledge, experiences, and teachings with an open heart. As an interesting side-note, unlike other Masters, Chen Yun Ching (like his father) has no ban on his students studying outside his teachings. His invitation reads: "Being an inner door student bai shi does not preclude you from training with other Teachers or places." The Bai Shi ceremony is an initiation ritual mirrored in Chinese secret societies and is only the first step in a long process of transmitting the inner teachings to a disciple. This produces a band of "brothers" and "sisters" that could recognize one another as such by knowledge of certain techniques and by a "family" name, or Pai, represented by a special banner. Ours is the Ling Yun Pai, using names from Chen Pan Ling and Chen Yun Ching. Ling Yun, which means "mountain peak clouds," is the name of Master Chen's training hall in Taichung, and it is graphically represented on the Ling Yun Pai banner. The Ceremony Master Chen with Brian Bruning, the authorThe Bai Shi ceremony would normally be simple, conducted by the Master at his home or school. In our case, it was directed by a four member team, brought in by Master Chen and specially trained to perform such traditional ceremonies, and held in a side room across the courtyard from the Confucius Temple main hall. There was a sort of master of ceremonies with three additional members who wore traditional Jing Mo uniforms of grayish blue with red sashes around their waist and ankles. On the jacket's right front was a gold crest and on the back gold characters saying, "Hong Men Sheng Peng Shan," meaning Hong Door Mount Holy Peng (a subdivision of the Hong Society). Peng is a reference to a huge mythological bird from Chinese legend. A picture of Chen Pan Ling looked down upon a red cloth-draped altar with two large red candles, an incense pot, and a container of incense sticks. There was also a small round mirror, a writing brush, a red painted tablet, and a stack of red envelopes to be presented to our teacher at the appropriate time. An upper shelf contained a small statue of the sage Confucius and a number of small flags. Master Chen sat to the right of the altar on a red cloth-covered chair and Uncle James and Aunt Mei sat to the left. Every object, action and person present had a purpose in this traditional ceremony. The ceremony started with the elder team member, holding two candles, saying in poetic language, "Illuminate Mount Liang and our hill." The translation notes that "Mount Liang indicates the numerically larger, but self-interestedly criminal, component of the Triad world; 'our hill' is the numerically smaller but ethically higher component of the world that is dedicated to the ideals of the sworn brothers of the Peach Garden (in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms)." "Our hill," I believe, refers to the small group present at this ceremony, differentiating it with the ancient Triad organizations. The second member holding three sticks of incense poetically praised the group present and stated that as the stick of incense is planted we are "planting seedlings." I think this is a reference to a new lineage sprouting forth, growing and thriving. He then moved a stick at a time to his right hand, referring to each as a symbol of reverence, first to Heaven, then to father and mother, and finally to the sages. With each stick handed over to the master of ceremonies, the team took the candles and the tablet outside the room, calling on the Sage to "join all brothers together in righteousness." The team returned the objects to the altar, after which the senior member took up the mirror and writing brush and pointed to the altar and said words to "activate the light of the Sun and Moon." The translators noted that: "Activate the Light" is kai guang. This is usually translated using the English idiom "turn on the light(s)", but kai actually means "open" or "begin." "Light" is capitalized because it is not ordinary light, but the light of the Sun and Moon, which together make the word ming - meaning "bright, but also the name of the Ming Dynasty, which the Triads were sworn to restore, and thus the appeal to the precedent of the patriotic sworn brothers of the Peach garden. "The Sun and Moon refers to the gesture of greeting in which one hand embraces the fist of the other before the chest; the fist is like the sun; the clasping hand is like the moon; together they make the character, "bright." The senior member took up a stick of incense and, holding it in both hands while pointing toward the Sage statue on the altar, commented that from now on "the whole company of brothers will be in harmony," and that "forever protected is the great fortune and joy of the Hong Realm." I took this to mean that our new brotherhood will experience a very positive future. The Master of Ceremonies then had us all sit and asked Master Chen to "please activate the Sage." Master Chen then held three sticks of incense, offering them toward the Sage on the altar. He then knelt down three times, touching his head to the ground three times at each kneeling. The Master of Ceremonies said to him, "Facing the Worthy Ancestral Teacher, perform the rite of kneeling and reverence." Master Chen then kneeled and bowed to his Father with visible emotion. We then professed our oath to Master Chen, and each of us took our turns kneeling and kou towing (bowing three times, touching our foreheads to the floor) first to the altar and then to our new Master. We presented Master Chen with the red envelope (a traditional offering) and he in turn placed a bagua necklace around our necks and presented us with our Bai Shi certificate and a Ling Yun Pai banner. After the ceremony, we all spent the afternoon on a field trip to the Fo Guang Shan Monastery. The headquarters of Fo Guang Shan, located in Dashu Township, Kaohsiung County, is the largest Buddhist monastery in Taiwan. It was a fitting place for a vegetarian feast to celebrate our induction that morning into the Ling Yun Pai family, via the Bai Shi ceremony. That ceremony, the highlight of our training, contained much cultural symbolism based upon centuries of traditional Chinese history. For all of us, that day was an emotional experience and a life event we will never forget.

When threats of suicide and homicide are made then we are morally and legally bound to take correct actions. Are any of us here professionally qualified to deal with such a situation? The answer is, "No". Sorry if it offends some, but we felt that breaking the downward spiral exhibited here by SSW and referring him towards the professional help that is required was the best course of action.

does it come for us? at the time of reckoning, the warrior's dance.

Sorry to be a spoiler, but the glow isn't coming from his hands ... there is a ball of paper burning on the ground in front of him. This is John's infamous lighting the newspaper with his qi demonstration. No less remarkable

Found this gem ages ago ... so worth reading: Confessions of a Taoist on Wall Street

Growth after 5 weeks:

Play fair boys and girls It might be time for our discoursing gladiators to review the Principles of Interfaith dialogue I posted up last time we had disagreements of this nature. Dialogue invites us to come together as people, not as belief systems. Dialogue, which is characterized by courtesy and respect, is most productive when its participants are considerate, open-minded, and genuine in their desire to learn from the other partners. Dialogue is enhanced if participants have engaged in a preliminary investigation of the other faith tradition, as well as in an informed and self-critical reflection upon their own faith identity. Dialogue recognizes that in order to reach a clear understanding, we must pay attention to vocabulary. Dialogue asks us first to understand, and only then to be understood. Dialogue should be transformative, opening the windows of the mind and spirit to a broader vision of spiritual awareness in the world. Anticipating that we will encounter both similarities and differences, dialogue recognizes that mutual acceptance and understanding, not absolute agreement, is the main goal.

Linking back to my previous post, here is a wonderful quote from Theun Mares: So the "liberation" is from the fixations we have to "I", to the calcified belief that our descriptions we have of ourselves and the world around us are immutable, fixed, and non-negotiable. It is these fixations that have imprisoned the unbridled current of our life force, and it is against these fixations that the warrior/seer must wage their battle to become truly alive.

I have a friend who has cerebral palsy. In a conversation I mentioned a healing modality which reportedly was having success in curing it to some degree. Astoundingly he said, "I don't think I would like to cure my cerebral palsy." Stunned I asked him why. "Because," he replied, "I don't think I would know who I was without cerebral palsy."

And part III http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggroj7w9J5k

LOL ... its actually worth a look. True they crassly bust the perimeter in many places but its otherwise OK. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_3BSk2TbK4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB3y10i_T9E

YES!! YES!! YES!! To the rest of the comments ... WAAY too much intellectualisation going on. We are all still biological animals with very basic biological urges regardless of how much social decoration and formality we place on it. At the biological base of things, women consciously or unconsciously are seeking men who will provide good genetics for their children and who can properly provide for and protect the family nest. And men are likewise seeking women who will provide a good genetic mix for their children and can nurture the nest. This is an over-generalization I know, but fundamentally its true. Why do most men like girls with big tits and arses? Because biologically women with well formed breasts and hips are better breeders. And likewise, why are women attracted to the strong alpha types. Because their children will be genetically stronger and these men are physically better providers and protectors of the home. True it is that the mix is a whole lot more complex then this these days, but we can't overlook the basic biological functions that underpin most people's decisions with love, regardless of how we try and dress it up. So if you want to attract the attention of women, then appeal to their base desires of providing good genetics (i.e. get yourself physically in shape), a good provider (i.e. get off yer ass and get yourself a decent paying job), and a good protector (i.e. get yourself physically in shape and learn some martial arts). In short, as Cat has beautifully said: "Man up to the Goddess!"

Got nothing to do with it. You think we haven't been affected by the whole EC mess? You would be terribly wrong if you did. I understand things are tough, but here is something that I have found to be true, except in extreme cases, if you really want work you will find work. And if there is no work to be found where you are then either move or make work for yourself. Where's the entrepreneurial spirit gone these days really? Have you really done everything in your ability to find work? Really? Have you really explored every single possible opportunity to get out there and make a dollar? Really? I bet you haven't. How 'bout starting your own market stall business. How 'bout growing some veges in your backyard and selling them for some extra cash. How 'bout anything instead of snivelling around here whining about how there's no spiritual jobs to be found. What utter rot!!! It's like you are saying, "Yeah I want to work ... but I won't do "those" jobs because they aren't spiritual enough." It's like that here in Australia. The poor old farmers are desperate to find workers but the Aussies don't want to do the hard yakka required, and so it's only the migrants that will do the work. And then the Aussies sit around whinging about how the migrants are pinching all their work!!! I've been on the unemployment que before ... I was unskilled and unqualified ... but I made work for myself. I got off my arse and started a magazine business. It failed horribly, but I picked myself up, dusted off the shit and started another business and ran it successfully for 7 years. I closed that business because I wanted to and guess what? With all that experience I was now a very skilled and very qualified salesman and found the job of my dreams within months. And let's look at your next ill-thought comment: What a load of BS!!! You are describing 2-bit salespeople who would be better off being pimps. Here's something about business and sales that you might learn if you ever stop your whining. 80% of all sales in a business are repeat customers. That means the real success of a sales person depends on the sincere relationships they form with their clients. "Real" salespeople live by this motto: I only win when the customer wins. "Real" salespeople think only of how they can help the customer achieve their goals and dreams. And the real success of a salesperson depends on how well they can truly help customers win time after time. So the super-sales people that you so despise are without a doubt more sincerely caring, hardworking, and selfless then you could ever imagine possible. So you want a spiritual job? Find a product or service that you believe will truly and completely help people. And then join the companies sales team and learn to be a super-salesman. After all if you truly believe it is the best thing for people aren't you duty bound to help people get involved with it as much as you can? Oh FFS!!! You don't need "love and compassion to grow up", you need to stop looking for your mama's tit!!! Seriously! Growing up is about getting in touch with those swingle-dingle things between your legs and taking life in your own hands rather than whining about how you don't have enough love. Things are tough and hard right now. Too frickin right they are!!! So what are YOU going to do about it? Does whining about it put food on your table?? Does blaming the corporate world put dollars in your bank account?? Does blaming the last 3 generations help your children through college?? Man up and do something for yourself for goodness sakes!! Hahahaha !!! When my business went bust and I had no work, did I whinge or whine? No because I had a family to think of, so I went out and busted my ass with the migrant workers cutting lettuce and celery for a living from sun-up to sun-down. Is that dirty enough for ya?!! Even now when I have seen my sales figures head south, I could sit around with the other reps and whinge about the company, but no frikin way!! I'm busting my balls again to push all new initiatives through the company trying to drag us out of this death-spiral. They say people will never pull their finger out until their back's against the wall and the sword is falling. But I guess for some they welcome the death stroke like a pathetic lover. So what's it going to be for you hey?

Actually my faithful moderating compadres have duly informed me that the Off-Topic is actually unmoderated with it quite clearly being stated as such on the front page (hehehe shows how much I see that page). I have reversed my actions and humble beg everyone's forgiveness for my lapse.

LOL ... nope "Off-Topic" ain't the pit ... yet And no "The Pit" is what it is, an unmoderated pit of "anything goes".

An interesting response which has just earned you a 7-day TaoBum Fast. You were previously, and very respectfully, warned about your choice of words. See you in 7 days.