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it's just a small prick well that depends on your view that's a horse needle

That was very well said Phore ... and very apt.

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Indeed ...

Granted but you only have 2 seconds to make every single wish I wish there was no need to make wishes.

and show your doctor "Don't worry Sir it wont hurt, it's just a small prick"

I say when you are visiting someone's house you respect their wishes. TaoBums is Sean's abode ... period. In trying to expose Sean's 'bad side' you have only exposed yourself.

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I have tried all available avenues to get in touch with Gossamer and am patiently awaiting his response.

If you focus only on what is wrong with the world then you will have a never ending perception and experience of 'wrongness'. It is painfully obvious that extremism in any field is one of the major causes of human suffering. But such distortion of human nature has at it's roots a consciousness that has been severed from it's integralness by the adherence to fixed conceptual ideals and dogmas. I am well aware of the challenges our world faces. But we will not make progressive steps to help resolve such ills by perpetuating the same patterns of consciousness that created these challenges in the first place. If you want to help resolve the extremism that you have identified here in this thread then my suggestion to you is to understand the originating causes of such distortion and resolve this type of fractured consciousness within yourself so that you will then be able to present workable solutions to the world based on your intimate and verifiable understanding of the issues that lay at the very heart of the problem at hand.

Why did you feel the need to post this Gold? Especially on the back of an entire dialogue about the need for interfaith harmony and peace? You queried previously about why I refrain from casting judgements. It is because, from the view of universal mindedness, right and wrong are merely conceptual deviations from true self-nature. For me to condemn someone as being wrong I must fracture my integral nature and subscribe to a narrow, limited frame of reference. So in a sense I am being quite selfish with my attitude of fairness and openness because I have no desire to inflict on myself the violent act of self-division; the act of placing one part of my mind in opposition to another. And as SZ has said above, it is not radical Muslims who are the problem, it is radicalism and extremism on any front ... Even radical anti-radicalism Just as the individuals path to inner peace is about reconciling the disparate, divisive, and opposing elements within oneself so to is the path of greater peace within humanity.

We have to exercise caution when making claims of proof of our achievement. It is so easy to fool yourself into believing you are witnessing proof because so many of us desperately WANT to believe; we overide the basic fundamentals of practical rationality in preference of our fantastical yearnings. Taoism, at least to me, is a practical and pragmatic path. It is built upon 6000+ years of emperical research and observation into the essence of life. The prime difference from the study of Tao and most western science is that subjective observation is an integral part of the equation. Infinite care must be applied here because subjective perception is open to interpretation due to the conditioned filters of the mind. This is why the foundation work of Taoist cultivation is about resolving/dissolving these filters so that we are able to see things as they truly are and not how we would either like them to be or fear them to be. To the point in question, modern technology has provided us some excellent tools to aid us in our research. For example, if you are able to create visible light from your hands that can be produced in a photo then theoretically this light should be able to be detected and measured by a photographic light meter. With great care you should be able to create the correct double blind protocol in order to verify this claim. Then, instead of bandying around some random photos that are easily disputed and which potentially undermines your credibility as an authority in esoterica, you would have substantiated proof of the validity of your teachings. Until then such claims officially fall under the "Thats interesting" category.