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Its not the outcome that is important in the cultivation of letting go, it is the actual practice of letting go, putting down that is important. That is what cultivation is about...the inbetween, not the end result. THe end result is inevitable, so one doesn't have to hold on to getting there, just cultivating that which results in realizing. Peace, Lin Yes, but a teacher only lays out the methods, and guides along the way. The real teacher is the cultivator who puts diligence into practice. No, because one may have good affinities/fate with certain mannerisms of mind, and be able to attain things without the aid of a formal teacher...only someone to point to the direction, or method briefly. It is both yes and no given one's affinities, conditions. Peace, Lin
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Excellent! Now this doesn't certify if the teacher has the goods or not! hahahaha I really do hold close to the ideal of virtue and moral. If the students show no virtue and moral, no compassion towards the next living being, then the teacher may not be far behind them in such. I wouldn't study with a being if he lacked virtue and moral. It is not good influence. Peace, Lin
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Not pointing fingers or anything, but is there an assumption that because the Buddha's mother died at birth that he was emotionally scarred, and so repressed emotion in order to detach and used it as the base of his teachings? That is a new one, and very funny... No way is it possible. Repressing emotion is not detachment, and Buddha has never taught to repress. Though there is death and birth, it is only of thoughts in an afflicted, personally attached, mind. Buddha's mother dying wasn't really bad. Who said death is bad? Who said living is good? Who said they are both real? With the teachings the Buddha spoke of, there is no room for holding on to the view of "emotional abandonment". That would be too petty for such a being, and his virtue is way over any emotional scar. So funny. Peace and Blessings, Lin
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ζζε replied to Wun Yuen Gong's topic in General Discussion
Its all good Cameron! The manner which one feels proper according to their reasoning, own logic, and common sense is the right way for them for the time being. Until something clicks and they see another manner which does the same. -
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Meditation is the method of revealing wisdom. Wisdom is the result of lessening. Once wisdom is present, everything can be understood without bias. Scholoars stick to their understandings, and those who are held in high esteem by society. It isn't too pure. Helpful for some, but mainly detrimental to one without the cultivation. My cultivation brother says the same thing, "Don't bother with scholarly work, just cultivate; meditate, get the poisons out of the body and mind, and then, when you are free to come and go as you please, do what you wish. Until then, there is nothing more important than cultivating." Peace, Lin -
Interesting enough! Buddhism has no view of life really. Any views are just views and produce states of mind which are experienced. There is no Life and no Death in Buddhism. Any states of such are only due to the mind ...minding such ideas. Being born isn't a falling from grace kind of thing in the Buddhist school. Being born is a process of momentum of thoughts and attachments to them, with views that the "experience" was "real", confusion, if it is thought to not be real. With a body, Buddhism works to keep it healthy, and utilize it, respect it for cultivation. Everything that is "denounced" in certain aspects of cultivation have a function in lessening that which is of the mind. What one may consider flavor, the Buddhist cultivator doesn't get moved by the flavor, and there are no thoughts of there being a flavor. This is stillness without duality. Stillness is leaving nothing in the mind that can be picked up.. equivalent to the metaphor of dirt at the bottom of the cup of water. When the water is not stirred, the dirt stays on the bottom, but when the water is stirred, dirt follows and picks up. True stillness is transforming the dirt to wisdom, and not being moved by emotions, desires, thoughts, and "outside" influences. This mannerism is perceived as dead like a piece of wood, but that is because the perceiver believes that emotions, and desires are life, and must be enjoyed. The perceiver still believes there is a perceiver. There is so much to discuss on both Buddhism and Daoism... with all conceptions of them right out on the table. Without harshness, superiority. Just a new discussion getting both schools and dropping the culture they travel through to get the rawness, the overall non-dualness of them both. Peace and Blessings Lin
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Dao De Jing, outdated? Only for leader of nations...? Daoists don't agree on it? Minds relying on modern ideas...it is outdated. People needing to control/lead...purposely for them. Daoists in disagreement...too many heads ontop of heads. It is as it is. Who can see through the culture and context to get to the truth? Method: Meditation. Peace and Blessings, Lin -
hahaha that would have been a funnier answer.
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Love and Peace ...Love and Peace
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WYG, All of my practices come from one thing...Meditation. With this said, I simply call it Jing Xin Gong; Clean/Pure Heart Cultivation, because without virtue and moral, no one will come to teach you, and one will learn nothing. Without a pure heart, Patient, Compassionate and Wise how is one going to know how to help others properly? How will they see through other's conditions and know which teaching to give in order to help the being attain? What I cultivate comes through Buddhist and Daoist realms/teachers. The practices include sutra cultivation (not just reading), bowing, visualization, walking, standing, lying, sitting practices, recitation/mantra cultivation, Qi/NeiGong, Shengong (various practices through movement, standing, sitting, walking, lying.), Taiji Quan, Bagua Zhang, Yong Chun Quan, Yi Quan Neigong. Most importantly doing good things for others, taking vows of practice and cultivating them, cultivating selflessness according to proper conditions, cultivate Virtue and Moral. The details of them are for my students :-) Peace, Lin -
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I know.. haha I am just being strict about it though. Don't mind my attitude, just mind the direction of mind.. Peace, Lin -
What I present was no Dao vs. Buddhism. It is only the dropping of the views about them, and get directly to cultivating.
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You seem to think I was attacking someone in my posting before I wrote the chinese characters. Out of all the books you read, sutras, daoist texts, and the like, there is still an idea of a self. ζΎδΈ means to Put down. Listing who my teachers are does no certification to my mind, nor does it prove to others I have something. Listing what I cultivate, and all the "things" I have studied does nothing for living beings. It only displays arrogance and a sense of superiority. I could care less who thinks what about my studies. It is of no service to others and myself. You obviously have no good fate with certain teachings. That doesn't prove them to be ineffective, wrong and incomplete. The teachings aren't the problem...its the living beings. Besides, one can study for years the greatest of teachings, and not even come close to its true meaning. Its not the quantity in studies, but the quality of cultivation. And even with meditation, it isn't certain one will attain. It is up to their past causes for attainment on a proper path. Peace and Blessings to you fellow cultivator. Lin
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It is good. I have done it since a child, and I am not crazy (depends on who's observing), depleted, unhealthy. It is fine. Meditating, sitting meditation and lying meditation, are Yin practices, yet it allows for the mind function to be directed to no place and that results in being able to focus intent and will to the dantian of choice for further workings. In sitting; the head is Yang, the tailbone is Yin. Yin Pulls Yang, Yang is opposed by yin. When the mind is unattached, bot do not exist, and thus reult in a feeling of that oneness everyone loves to talk about. But the feeling is only the begininng, because that state only lasts for a short time, and is only a result from reaching that state.. haha Everything In Mind has that Yin and Yang quality. When there is no mind, there is no Yin and Yang. Now in terms of meditating to attain enlightenment, after Qigong, the mind is easier to still. Keep focused on breath going in and out and in between and when breath slows to your undiscriminative mind, let it all take its course... and don't MIND the states you attain..they are not signs of mastery or sagehood. Peace and Blessings my friend, Lin -
Real "Daoist" cultivators with skill, virtue and over all WISDOM look at one for their capacity to attain, virtue and wisdom...they look for Heaven's Blessings on the being, and then transmit what they feel that being can utilize, has the capacity to cultivate, despite the cultivation background. This is why Daoist cultivation looks like a mystery, because not everyone has the full, complete story, only a select High Virtuous Ones do, and it is the same in terms of high level cultivation in "Buddhism". But with Buddhism, all the answers are right there in the Sutras, but people just don't have the capacity to comprehend them. You don't give a murderer just out of jail a gun, just because he says he's sorry and will never do it again, that he has changed. It is the same thing with methods to attain abilities and the like. Peace and Blessings, Lin
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Buddhism has no goal of anything. Emptiness is a state of mind when perceived and doesn't exist when not perceived. In the absence of perceptionand non perception there is no emptiness and there is not NO emptiness. Emptiness in Buddhism is Emptiness in Daoism. It is impossible that there are 2 different Emptinesses. It is all the same mind! Not 6 billion different ones. It is thus there are different characteristics.. BUT THE SAME MIND. Dao, Buddhism... difference anyone? Chinese, American... still human? All of this arguement of the differences of the word Buddhism and DAoism and the misconceptions that are debated, and not one of us is enlightened yet! What a waste! Dao Fa Ziran.... ιζ³θͺηΆζ―δ»δΉζζε’οΌ ε°±ζ―θΏδΈͺζζοΌ ιηζζ³ε°±ζ―θͺηΆγ Translation: Dao Fa Ziran , what does it mean? Exactly that! Teachings of Dao are natural. Nothing more, nothing less, exactly that. Is it up to the individual translating it? NO! Why has "Daoism" incorporated Confucian and Buddhist cultivation? Because early on people were just people, no moral, virtue, or very little of it. THe methods coincide becauses they are just that, METHODS! Too much mysterious belief in a godforsaken word DAO and BUDDHA! Its not mysterious, WAKE UP EVERYONE! Its just a damn word because us humans can only grasp things by sight and intellect. Unless you are cultivating meditation, contemplation without bias (duality), one will only be able to taste just the scent of it all. There is nothing to get to, nothing to return to, nothign to make the body become more natural than it is.. What a misleading thought to believe the body needs to remember some early stage of development function. It doesn't, because it itself is of the fundamental "natural" source. What is it remembering? how is it remebering, where is the mind? Is there a mind? Stop Acting like the idea of a Daoist and cultivate the way. Stop Acting like the idea of a Buddhist and start cultivating the way. Both are the same! Don't contemplate the Dao, drop ideas of it and Thus.... Stop contemplating the Buddhas AND BECOME ONE! Both are the same when there is totaly perfection of cultivation. Peace and Blessings Lin
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You can't find it in translation. You will get in through cultivation, and not expecting things to be what you wouldl ike them to be in the Dao De Jing. Dao De Jing can be taken directly from the translation, but that is only surface, and doesn't complete the cultivation of Virtue and Moral. Then it can be taken as a contemplative method to look at one's habits, and change them without question, just simply putting down and understanding the causes and effects from one's desires, emotions and actions. In this, one needs cultivation, meditation, as well as methods to recognize habits both good and bad, and put them down. You can't get it from the translating and looking for certain context of language. If you are reading it, you will need eyes, if you hear it you will need ears. With the idea of their being a Western mind, it puts an excuse as to why people in the west can't get it. It isn't about the direction and lifestyle, it is about what people are accustomed to without their knowing whether or not it is proper. One side of the world has one end of things, and the other side...the other end. They are both in competition for the best, but fail to realize that neither are best...only expressed parts of the whole thing. Its in cultivation, not bias. Its in one's conditions, not emotions. Look at the conditions, and understand the manner inwhich they are in one's life. Once one knows how and why, one can see the impermanence of it all. That process is detachment, because afterwards there is nothing else. Peace, Lin -
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Are you saying Wu De? In all of Lao Zi's Dao De Jing, meditation is written all over it. In the essence of his teachings is to be still in heart and mind. That is an outcome of meditation and contemplation. If one has proper contemplation of their experiences, then they will attain stillness of heart and mind. This is what Lao Zi is saying, to be still in mind.. how to be still? No desire, no fame, ambition. Just do what you do according to conditions, and you live your life accordingly in society. If you want to change society, be the example for the people, but do not hold onto fame and fortune. This is cultivation of proper views. Proper mental postures. Sitting by the lake, soaking in the scenery is concentration, but it is concentration on forms and conditions. Lao Zi is saying though you have these things and they are good,, labeling them good is equivalent to stepping on it with a dirty shoe. Saying it is beautiful is to make it ugly...etc Meditation is within his writings through contemplative methods. Directly pointing to the meditation technique is not going to be food for thought, and let a proper mental posture take root unless the mind meditating already has a good mind of virtue and moral. Peace and Blessings, Lin -
hahahahaha Good morals. Those who desire power most of the time will use it to hurt others. With desire in cultivation, a thin line between proper and improper manifests. With eyes, one can see the true intentions of the students. A bow to Shifu Max for wise discrimination.
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In any proper cultivation there should be a foundation and cultivation of proper virtue and moral. If not, the development of powers leads to demonic influences in the mind. Not pretty. Peace and Blessings, Lin
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In between breaths, when that state is elongated, many things take place. Very good recognition in that. Mantra and visualizations are as you say. Good stuff. Peace and Blessings, Lin -
I was referring to MW and his worries from his students of a monopoly on cultivation.. haha The proof is in the Pudding...