Satori

Your ability to manifest becomes much greater when you do these type of practices. Yoda created what he wanted. His choking experience was symbolic of him not speaking his truth. This is common among practitioners. One cannot kiss so much arse over and over on this forum in order to be a peacemaker or popular and feel like they have spoken the truth. Sometimes things piss you off and you should express it. Has anyone ever considered that posting on the Tao Bums over and over attracts reptilians? Look at the numbers. Do the math. It is happening. Who has posted here more than anybody: YODA! I am getting scared...

Trunk that is a shitty accusation, based on nothing. You seem to be trying to make the case that scary monsters are attached to Max's lineage and if you do your practice your children will be the victims. Sorry dude but that is fucking retarded. I think you are just scared of things you shouldn't be and you are spreading that irrational fear with others. Talk about irresponsible...

I trust the feeling in my heart and that is a result of "genuinely" questioning my own nature. I have shredded my ego and even pushed it into some very uncomfortable places just to challenge it. I survived, it survived and I am happy. I wish you the best too.

You better believe it brother.

I write from my own experiences. My experience with Max has been a mixed bag. He is both uber-wise holy man and a childish prankster. What I got from it all was that I need to take responsibility for my own internal issues. That my confusion as to my true nature is best understood from relying on my own direct experiences. Forget everyone else at this point. Even the teacher. I have learned to trust myself. I have learned to speak my truth and to be as conscious as possible in every moment. To be completely present when eating food: not thinking about the past and not thinking about the future (boy do you really taste the food then). That we have two brains: one in the head and one in the heart. The one in the heart knows everything and the one in the head is the source of all confusion. We are much greater than most of us understand at this time, and it is the journey of self-discovery that is our precious gift.

Oh, I see. So, people are doing practices that open them up to perceive the Tao and they can't handle it? "I got a glimpse of what is and it flipped me out, man!" Did anyone get hurt? No. So we are afraid of the boogy-man eh? Well, you wanted the direct experience with the Tao and that is what you got. It is pretty lineage-free actually. Every culture/tradition deals with these things. We are afraid of what lies beyond our normal range of vision. This is the Tao and a few people were open enough to perceive some of the beings who are ALWAYS present and curiously observing us. I'll admit, it does take some getting used to, but it ain't all reptiles. The range of "other" type of entities is virtually endless. Mantra would tell me crazy stories and Kan too, and I didn't know what to believe. I eventually had my own experiences with multi-dimensional beings and it forced me to adjust to a greater understanding of what is. Don't be scared, you can always tell the things you perceive in your room to fuck off and they have no choice but to listen. They see us as royalty (sovereign kings) and they must respect our will.

Max never said he was perfect. He also teaches in ways that most people don't understand until waaay later. Many people seek to find fault with a teacher, which because teachers are human, is not very difficult to do. The tools however are quite sound. Max also never asked anyone to follow him. In fact, he beats it into your head that you are your own best teacher and flat out tells people NOT to follow him. It is so important to him that people get the self-empowered thing that he has quit teaching publicly in order to force people to rely on themselves. People WERE getting too attached to him and he was not pleased with that. The problem is that everybody wants someone to tell them all of the answers, but this is not part of the spontaneous system. Jenny will tell you the same. Her teacher gave it to her in one day and they NEVER spoke about it again. So buck-up cowboys and girls. You are way more incredible than you think and if you learn to trust your feelings you will find the best answers to your questions by looking no further than the insides of your own eyelids.

What are these "seriously freaky dangerous problems" that affect the children in your home? Sounds like fear-mongering Trunk. My kids love it and they have incredible experiences and nothing remotely close to dangerous is happening to them. They are extremely joyous, and seem to be far better adjusted than their peers at school.

This book just provides another simple tool. It's like they tell me: going deeper in our practice will resolve the issues you have.

Well the first EGO-PENIS has responded to a Mantra post...

You ask good questions. Google these things to your satisfaction.

OK, Nancy Reagan. Most people shouldn't use drugs and I am not condoning drug use, but drugs do have their uses. When taken in a ceremony and with an expert Shaman one can have amazing spiritual experiences. In fact, datura was used by the Buddha. Look at the imagery. Buddha under the trees of Paradise - China When Buddha preached rain or dew fell on Datura- (Schultes 108). Shamanism is very much dependent on psychedelic substances for their deep introspective qualities. It is a valid path and perhaps the oldest spiritual path. Consider the Native American tradition of using Peyote and Datura, the South American tradition of using Ayuhuasca, etc., etc.

I know a lot of people who use marijuana when they do Kunlun. Some have tried it on mushrooms. Some who were stuck and felt they were not getting anywhere tried just one hit of weed and it allowed them to relax enough to go super-deep into themselves. This can be trickier with mushrooms though because you can go to a place that as Max says "humans shouldn't see". In other words, unless your intent is pure and your mind is clear and you have already processed your "dark" stuff, it is not recommended that one try this. The spontaneous practice does come from Shamanism after all and it was in the altered state that this form of letting go was discovered. Unfolding the heart, releasing deep tension patterns and clearing the emotional body were the results. After one has experienced these things and processed their own "tensions", the higher realities become more readily available for experience. These "medicines" can accelerate this already quick process of awakening but if you push it, you can mess yourself up. Always use caution and don't ever rely on them 100% in order to do your practice.

The drama around Kunlun is weird. All of that for a simple "letting go" practice. Do it or do something else. Getting huffy about it (like WYG) is unnecessary and creates the self-fulfilling idea that there is controversy. Amazing really. Mantra posted a new book on his forum that I think might be even better than Kunlun for many. It is Life Force by Dan Emmons.

Nobody should do Kunlun or anything Max taught unless they are ready to be different. You cannot go back to the way you are once you open your own Pandora's box, and that is what these practices do. So if you start (after you have your first opening), that's it. You are different because you have shifted your tension patterns. Your energy flows differently, you feel different and your world is different. Your current pattern will be gone and you cannot go back, but we are here to learn who we are, so that is a good thing, right? The only problem is that the new you may not feel as stable as the pattern you were used to. This is growth and after a while you learn to love the process and adjust to an identity in flux. Always opening newer levels of stuff forces you to harmonize the stuff you uncover and this can be great for health improvement, but can be hard on the psyche. So you really should think if this is what you want to do with your life. We are here to enjoy our lives and that means following our heart's desire. If we all do that (without harming others) we are doing what we are supposed to do. The creator wants us to do what brings us joy. That's all. So, if clearing the obstacles that prevent your free travel in the current of the Tao that takes you back to your source is for you, go for it. I don't know of anything that will give you that quicker (outside of psychedelics). If not, just do what makes you happy.

There was no effort on either side to "Dig it up, blow it out, harmonize". This was referring to the Kunlun practice. Chris said both he and Max contacted the dude and he wouldn't accept the truth. Also, why are you so obsessed with Phil Toledo? That dude won't listen to someone calling them and saying, "Hey man, it's me Max. I am not dead." And he instead makes up a fantastic story about it. I think the point of posting the letter might have been to show an example of what not to do as a student. Keep it real and don't go profiting off someone who in your mind has to be dead so you can maintain your own online business. Anyway, last year's news... You speak about the Kunlun group like you know them, but then you haven't even studied with Max in person. You seem pretty bright but it's hard to dig your points when you are shooting them from such an outside perspective. I heard Max will still be teaching small private groups. Maybe you should study with him. He is amazing and I think you would probably be a good student.

Yes, it "do". Goes back to Cain and Able. For the Cain group the earth shall bear no fruit. For the Able group (living in God's grace) it does. Cain is the G8 (Bush and his cronies) They control the wars on earth. They TAKE what they need. Able is the G7 (literally a group of 7 people, and not the 7 who are presented publicly) They control world finance. They keep the G8 in check to the best of their ability but at this level everything between them is transparent. All just games. The G8's time is up though. That is why they "went for it" so hard the last few years. Of course they will still bring in hoards of money through the fourth world (drugs, child porn, snuff films, human slavery, and organ harvesting). Hell, that money actually keeps the system working. Anyway, things are changing at a fundamental level, beyond the control of the G8. So just hang tight as the truth of who we really are unfolds. It'll be swell. The veil is thinning...

Yeah, I know that was a heated time for Mantra. He was dealing with the shit from every angle and really frustrated by the fact that Phil wouldn't believe Max that he wasn't a body double and he refused to stop selling Max's old videos without permission. It was weird. Overall, I think Chris put up with way more than most of the people here ever could have. All he was trying to do was help people understand Max and Jenny's stuff and he was a pretty patient dude (even with the real assholes). I would have told some of those people to just f*ck off (actually, I think I did a couple of times, he he). Now that Max quit teaching I think we can appreciate that he really wasn't in it for the money or to start a cult, cuz none of that ever happened. He told everybody not to follow him and he meant it. Empowering people was his true deal. Their job was to get these family secrets out there and they did it. Now we all have more to choose from for our own awakening. The whole spontaneous thing was just about opening yourself to ever deepening layers of "stuff" you've held. To be able to harmonize each level of your own emotional patterning as you drill down through to the deep and difficult "scary" stuff that you don't want to see about yourself. Dig it up, blow it out, harmonize, and repeat.

I recently met some folks doing Matrix Energetics and also met the main dude, Dr. Richard Bartlett. It was clear from his demonstrations that he is tapped into the one law and very heavy in terms of energetically effecting others. My friends tell me that some of the Kunlun folks went to check him out and when he connected with them he nearly hit the floor from their energy. He would ask each one, "WHAT do you do?" Just thought it was interesting. Anybody have any experience with this?

Mantra, that is funny. SJ will feel bad after seeing who he was dissing. Like calling the Dalai Lama a bunch names and then having to face him. Shame.

Naw man, the magic test is a fun exercise. Very light hearted. It just reveals where you are at. So you are chicken to meet the MAN eh? Well your mouth wrote a pretty big check on that stupid keyboard of yours, I think it is only natural that you should face the person you have been so harshly attacking from the safety of your cubicle and explain to them personally, in a friendly environment, why. Of course, you should answer for it like a man, but Max would never do anything to harm you, it goes against his way. You REALLY don't know who you been slamming all this time do you?

To be "open" refers to the energy channels being open. Then they can receive the energy of the transmission. To do this on someone who does not have these channels open can be done (to try to prove a point) but if forced it will cause them damage. Also, to force this requires a different type of energy than what the masters who can do this are using on their "open" students. To be done with two people who's channels are open is like water into water rather than water onto ice. Suggestion doesn't really play a factor. I have seen people like Max do this on students who were not aware any energy was being run and they still found themselves reacting. they had their eyes closed and he was standing behind them with loud mongolian music on. When i met those guys I saw Mantra affect his girlfriend in Hawaii while she had her back to him from across the room. She started wiggling and giggling and she quickly turned to see him sending energy through his eyes at her and smiling. Right there I became a "lifer." I wanted to learn how to do that with my lady. I think I am actually starting to get somewhere with it. It's crazy, bro. My understanding is it is like sending a feeling while extending your mind and believing there is a connection. It is intent and the Kunlun opens the heart of compassion to give you a positive intent. It is trusting in the "one law" like Max says. That we really are divine and we are all connected beyond the physical level. Open your channels and start enjoying sharing the subtle energies. This is why it doesn't work on people who have not opened their channels. They can refute it all day and they would be right. Just like you can tell me all day that there is no such thing as radio waves. You got a radio but you don't know how to turn it on. You see people holding their radios up to their ears and enjoying "something" and you think they are fucking nuts. They look at you with your radio off and they think you are fucking nuts. Turn it on brudda...crank dat fukka to 11!!!!!

Not sure they titled it that. It looks like the shamanic form that I have heard those guys talk about.

Sj has no experience with Kunlun or Max and is still just a woman scorned. He "lost" his "girlfriend" to Max and Kunlun. Boo hoo. Now we have to live with his psycho-ass forever (cuz da pain never stops hurting, ) Seriously dude you HAVE NO IDEA what or who you are talking about. Talking shit about laying Max out on a stretcher might just be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I pray you get the chance. You wouldn't like the results, chump. The impressions from a free lecture can be pretty wild, but time always proves that this stuff works. Also, Max continually encourages people not to be followers and the practice itself MAKES one an independent practitioner. That is how it is designed. See the teacher once and you don't need to see them again. Everything else is bullshit. If you want to listen to the delusional crybaby that is Starjumper, then you are missing out on a powerful practice that produces amazing results on the people who try it in their first weekend. It could have been a cult last year: still ain't. To be a cult I believe you need followers. To get followers you need to make them believe they need you. Max empowers people by showing them that they have the ability to heal themselves and awaken themselves. And despite the popularity of Kunlun, Max and the crew are still just barely covering costs. No one realizes how much charity they do. These are good people.