MooNiNite

this isnt the exact thread i was talking about, but i think it is the same thing. I sorta know where you are coming from with this. personally i think im on stage 8. i would consider stage 9/10 awakening or enlightenment.... also i think it is important to note that somewhere around stage 7 or 8 the person doesnt really fear death, its like the body is there but they feel beyond the human form. or atleast they dont feel like they would disapear if there body died. it i cant explain the experience as much, but it is like a different form of immortal. i believe the doaists call this the earth immortal because if they die they dont go anywhere and just stay on earth, i believe this knowledge is felt at this stage. would you say the stages become more difficult or time consuming as one goes up? kind of like a video game? also how would you compare these stages to a Taoist Celestial Immortal? Another note: this guy B Mouravieff has a 7 stage system based on eastern christianity, and at the 7th the person can no longer hold a human form if they wish to keep progressing. in his system levels 1-3 are the normal human, having no magnitism and just floating in any direction either by mental, emotional, or mental. at level 4 they get magnitism and choose a direction. level 5 is enlightenment. level 6-7 are extra credit

just the way i feel

if your senses are sharper how are you in a trance? isn't that less of a trance? The word trance implies a misconception, but our senses are how we perceive. if a person becomes awake or enlightened they gain the ability to see

i dont like to use the word trance. i think people not in meditation are in an unconscious trance. meditation is breaking the trance

To meet with the emperor?

nice quotes . although i dont understand this last one? am i missing something obvious haha?

good point. but in most cases a master can tell, and also based on abilities. such as the breathless state would be someone at spiritual immortal or level 5 in eastern Christianity, then there are different signs for the higher stages also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3HWwDUsyI

just curious, does this mean in total darkness we find enlightenment?

if you keep practicing everyday eventually a teacher will appear, especially when you reach a certain stage. Practice practices that lead you to enlightenmnet or awakening, any practices for powers or anything related to that, will throw you off course. focus all of your practice towards Reaching awakening

if you know the origin you will know the true sound

Recently I have been reading about people experiencing fusion sensation in lower dantien during meditation, Some say it is experienced prior to awakening. Have you guys heard of this? Does awakening cause a fusion inside the dantien, contrary to the yogic belief of fusion happening at the top of the head? any insight is appreciated

like strong rumbling/spinning, more prominent than a chakra. Im curious if a qi gong master draws his/her electric qi from the LTD? Possibly a fusion happens naturally there. only time will tell i guess

Lucky punks these days

i spelled "where" wrong. LOL, talking about education..

i feel like im in the same boat

i believe people start experiencing sleep paralysis type experiences before activating a new energy center in the head or above the head. I call these activation phases or experiences. These experiences can be quite extreme and frightful. I think It is because the energy center is hyper-active and allows states of borderline OBE. These experiences in my opinion are very similar to inhaling that gas from the Batman Begins movie, things or objects near a person take some type of being. Usually sinister and frightful. The native americans talk about experiencing one's shadow totem, and a few indian sages tell me when one leaves their body for the first time they may have a grim reaper type experiences, all of these seem related but probably a little more extreme or advanced. THe native americans would also talk about it being evil to sleep during the day time. I notice that sleep paralysis OBE experiences happen most often during the day time. Also lucid dreams. But if one has a lot of vibrations they could be more susceptible.

i used to think that way but sometimes it's not true......

never trouble trouble when trouble troubles you, trouble trouble and trouble trouble double

im trying to start and sell them to people in my small town.....but, i cant find any real suppliers? anyone every try this? i feel like a lot of people have atleast some interest in computers but yah,,,,ill go to a computer forum also... anyways....................love and light......namaste......<----ignite the light within so others can also...........<<----computers......

yeah thats the general plan, but im trying to find the right ones, its kinda tricky cause a lot of them have really shady reviews. but ill keep looking

yeah i was gonna try that. but a lot of these wholesaler actually get REALLY bad reviews, its like they are scammers or something

it is the greatest thing we humans are capable of doing, the highest level of attainment is to be a creator. creating is fusing yin and yang, prana and apana, it is yoga. through mastering the ability to create we can enter into the immortal state.

kundalini is a hell of a drug

can you elaborate all that is which you are explaining?