MooNiNite

it's not difficult to be a disciple of both masters, you just need to pay money and attend retreats?

this seems expensive considering Wang wont be present at the retreat

i wonder if the teacher is there for yin qi?

Does anybody understand what is meant by a spiritual immortal doing spiritual work? "spiritual body is then able to perform the execution of spiritual work"

Ah OK this makes sense. My terminology is different, by combining Xing and MIng you are only referring to earth immortal. . "It should be provided either by faithful pupils and adherents, The Teacher, or by concealment by having immured in a cave according to certain rules." Do you understand this part, How can pupils and adherents help this stage? Maybe i misunderstand, but it almost sounds like the pupils are meditating for the master.

you're right i just have an irrational biased against spirit science.

the methods in Taoist Yoga will slow a person down, imo. really complex and probably should have a teacher

she's a nooobbb!!!! actually, spirit science has evolved quite a bit...

idk, but when the crown is activated it feels like being inside a merkabah. More importantly, What are the origins of this picture?

thank you Alchemist, Not to be pressing, but could you at least offer some reasoning? Or why meditation is insufficient. Lao Tzu says, give up book learning, as if there are no methods and following nature and feeding from the source is an ultimate path to the highest peaks. Also, not to say the website is authentic but here is what they say and it would seem to be congruent with the Wang Liping school except they also teach the importance of spreading the teachings of the way to common people while training. "Therefore there remains the possibility of realization of the highest stage which is possible on Earth according to alchemy - the transformation of this body in the body of light. This is the most difficult task because it requires about 9 -10 years of immobility. It should be provided either by faithful pupils and adherents, The Teacher, or by concealment by having immured in a cave according to certain rules." P.S. "I will try to post an appropriate translation a bit later." where do you post these translations? is there a website i am not familiar with?

what is the difference between celestial immortality in your school compared to every other taoist school? The description on the "fake" Wuliu website shares no distinction

i would disagree. high level in my understanding is a celestial immortal. and i'm pretty sure that's the same as your schools understanding. this just takes a lot of meditation

what if a spirit doesnt leave if you ask them to?is that possible?

i prefer the word Mentor over Master

its like the same things being said over and over. this thread should probably end before another rotation

just making sure you knew which teachers you were referencing when talking about disrespect and sins

john changs teacher murdered an entire village..............

ken and zoom are just confused because MPG goes around saying it takes 10 YEARS to complete level 1. to actually believe that.....

mo pai level 1 only takes 90 days. probably less if you know what your doing. its so silly seeing people come on here and act like level 1 is so godly. or that mo pai is the only way to develop a spirit, jeez..open your eyes.

this is hilarious. i'm not surprised ken and zoom think this way

you don't need methods to attain a high level

i wasn't talking about that, but apologies for the lack of clarity

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it's none of that. this is a normal thing for practitioners