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I'm surprised you throw out this red herring... From The Practice Of Dzogchen: An Anthology Of Longchen Rabjum's Writings On Dzogpa Chenpo by Longchen Rabjam

Dzogchen teaches that the primordial state is not affected by merit, prostrations, good or bad etc. are you not implying by your comment that Dzogchen follows the two truths?

Dzogchen leads to rainbow body. Buddhism in General does not because there is no thogal.

Dzogchen was around long before Buddhism appeared. Bon Dzogchen, another line is purportedly over 17000 years old.In Dzogchen, first you get direct introduction (transmission) then you gain confidence in he view and then you maintain it. There is no need of all the Buddhist trappings and practices. http://dudjom.blogspot.ca/2008/03/on-three-statements-of-garab-dorje.html Here is a link discussing this issue. http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=3053 There is no thogal in Buddhism. Alan Wallace also maintains that there is no Buddhism in Dzogchen as he has stated in one of his podcasts. #16 https://archive.org/details/IntroductionToDzogchenRetreatWithAlanWallace2012

http://lightofberotsana.squarespace.com/storage/Paltrul%20R_3%20Statements_4-13.pdf From http://www.berotsana.org/download/

Hi BKA, Are you sure about that? Have you ever looked up or counted the number of pitted posts from the General discussion and compared? Or even looked at the subjects of pitted posts? I'll bet there are more mo pai pitted posts than any others. Oh, and the reason why moderating the Buddhist forum is so hard is because you have to know something about Buddhism. For example, calling something eternalistic or nihilistic is considered an insult in Buddah-talk. But if you don't know what those words mean, you can't tell that someone has just been insulted. Probably the worst insult is to be called a neo-advaitan.. LOL! Also, there is no Buddhism in Dzogchen but many people forgot that.

Let's get this straight. Every time an object appears, there is a subject which goes along with it. The subject consists of you, the perceiver. That perceiver is at first the son light of awareness. The subject is identifying with one of the five sense consciousnesses. Or, the subject is identifying with the perception of thoughts, emotions and conceptual data. When you perceive a thought, that means that there is a subject perceiving that thought. Dzogchen is not about dwelling in the subject, but realizing that which perceives both the subject and the object. One method of doing this is to fuse the subject and object together in stillness. Another method is to have absolutely no objects. No self, no identity, no nothing.. If there is a 'you' there perceiving something, whether it be a golden egg, a vast space or even nothing, then that is not it. This is the whole point of Dzogchen. First you learn that objects dissolve on their own. Then you realize that when the object dissolves, the subject that was aware of the object also dissolves. You stand your ground and permit the spontaneous and not so spontaneous creation and dissolution of objects until you get to the point where there are no more objects being created. It is the alaya from which the objects spring forth. Every thought, memory, idea, karmic store chest is housed in the alaya. When you succeed in calming or purifying the alaya, you have half a chance of breaking through to mother clear light. Dzogchen is the art of permitting spontaneous appearances to appear without grasping at them. But more importantly, even Buddha taught about having no "marks". A mark is an attachment, as in a grasping relationship between subject and object: From The Vajra Prajna Paramita Sutra: A General Explanation by Hsuan Hua, Kumarajiva

Yes that is my own personal experience. I did 6 years in total of kriya yoga. I don't think there is one practice that is good for everyone, except maybe "love yourself". Every person is at a different level and has different things to work out. I mean, even Buddhism distinguishes between capacities and capabilities of the practitioner. It is important though to not try to find a "one size fits all" type of teaching because you'll lose the top and bottom of the bell curve.

The dissolution of the body into the central channel was precipitated by years of kriya practice akin to spinal breathing along with a strict breathing pattern of 9-1-9-1 which was then extended to 9-3-9-3.It is the breathing pattern that helps to detach the mind. Also, sitting zen style, perfectly still will also precipitate the dissolution of the body and mind. Well, there is a kind of all-pervasive awareness which you can tune into and then you can see far away distances. That is not confined to a specific location relative to the body. You can also pretend or visualize that you are taking another point of view, as if for example, you are sitting somewhere where your physical is not, but you assume that perspective. That works too. However, there are channels in the inner body that can be opened and used, like the Kati crystal channel from the heart to the eyes. The fastest way to activate that channel is by gazing with love at something you love. You know about that, though... I see these experiences as just "playing in the layers of reality" and I've always assumed that everyone can do the same with the proper karma, knowledge and practices. And yes, I agree, you could probably train yourself to see visions in other parts of the body, or even, like the indigo children, read books from your armpit. Why not?

Thank you very much for this link. I appreciate it. Hadn't read that one before. Here is another link to super powers from the Buddha: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/mn/mn.119.than.html

Yes, they are sort of connected, but it is the other way around. The biological outgrowths are the physical manifestations of the inner realms. In Hindu terms, causal body, mental body, astral body, etheric body then lastly physical body. And yes, location, location, location. The central channel has a specific location relative to the body, unless the body dissolves, then what remains resembles a light body of luminous ribs just hanging suspended in a huge space that looks like outer space. When I want to check if anyone is watching me, I use my inner vision and look about 1inch behind the brow. This is the same location where scenes and dreams form. The golden eye is located beyond the brow, relative to the forehead, about 4 or 5 inches out. That's the one I talk about with which you can see out to the physical world if you want. The aperture or hole at the top of the head, where the huge space exists beyond (past the feeling of dying) is almost directly above the head in the center. As well, if you gaze straight ahead, then move your attention straight back into the luminous area that appears at the back of the head, you end up in a plane of plink, white and blue where I recall being stuck for a long time before being born. After the body dissolves away during meditation, these structures and locations are quite evident.

Hi GIH, I didn't think that you could put those eyes on your butt, but I suppose it may be possible. From what I have learned, location is everything, even the difference of a few inches. Not that anyone is interested or not, but here is a thread about the third eye, along with some experiences. http://thetaobums.com/topic/24351-i-hunger-for-more This thread also includes a verification of third eye sight... When I caught DNB peering at me several times. I still have his picture that he posted which confirmed what I was seeing. I believe that the eyes as Buddha described them are available to anyone if they so choose to develop them through practice.

Well, Ramana, whose quote appears in CN Norbu's "the Marvelous Primordial State" was a Hindu. He insulted Ramana, and Nisagardatta too, not to mention Dhyan Yogi, Gurudeva and all his wonderful monks and me in my previous life.. Do you know how Malcolm learned about his previous life? He hired a tibetan fortune teller to tell him about it. Sounds quite realized, doesn't it?

Perhaps you could ban Malcolm for using the term "Hindu la la land". It is not ethical to use other traditions as a means of insult. But wait, you can't ban Malcolm because he isn't a member, nor has he ever been one (I think). Oh well, perhaps you could ban SJ for posting insults from third party absentees? Personally I'm sick of Malcolm's arrogance and lack of respect. Why do we have to be subject to the gospel according to Malcolm continually and abusively?

Your understanding of the tao seems fatalistic to me. First, you seem to think that the tao says that reality is linear. What about the idea that reality contains all possible variants and combinations? String theory? Reality is a series of perceptions which our minds string together to form our rudimentary and illusive understanding. You say people don't even choose to be born, their gender..etc. in Buddhism adepts can choose their birth place and characteristics. Even, the whole point of Buddhism is to escape samsara and the never ending cycle of reincarnation. Refer: stream enterer, once returner, arahats, Buddhas. Further, in Buddhism, you get to dissolve thoughts and learn how to become still, to the point where there are no thoughts. So, sorry I don't know much about Taoism, but I suspect that your understanding may be flawed.

From the Vajra sutra: Sūtra: After the Buddha spoke this sūtra the Elder Subhūti, all the bhikṣus, bhikṣuṇīs, upāsakas, upāsīkās, and the world with its gods, men, and asuras, heard what the Buddha had said, rejoiced, believed, received, revered, and practiced. End of the Vajra Prajñā Pāramitā Sūtra. Commentary: After the Buddha had finished speaking the prajñā of true emptiness, the Vajra Sūtra, the Elder Subhūti, who had ten kinds of virtuous conducts; the bhikṣus, bhikṣuṇīs, the laymen, laywomen, the gods, people, as well as the asuras, who had the blessings of the heavens but not the status; upon hearing the prajñā of wonderful existence and true emptiness, gave rise to great joy, believed, accepted, and respectfully practiced the sūtra. All were as happy as if they had obtained a precious gem, and they had: the jewel of wisdom, the dharma jewel of prajñā. They believed. They lost all their desires, casting them aside. I hope that when we finish studying the Vajra Sūtra you can cast all your upside-down thoughts far away. Rid yourself of enjoyment of food. Rid yourself of desire for sleep. Banish your striving for fame. Abolish your urge to become rich. Cast all the aspects of your hearts desires to some far-away place. If you can rid yourself of the desires for wealth, sex, fame, food, and sleep, you can cut off the roots of the hells, and advance to the fruit position of Buddhahood the Eternally Bright Pure Land.

Hi Guy, Haven't seen you walking through walls or manifesting jewels or banquets lately. It is one thing to cast aspersions upon the poor common unenlightened folk and it is another thing to present what the Buddha truly said. Perhaps you should do just a bit more reading before you use your meager understanding of Buddhism to insult people. The Buddha said that you need to develop the five eyes. Chapter 18 http://www.buddhisttexts.org/uploads/6/3/3/1/6331706/_vajra_prajna_paramita_sutra.pdf#page208

Merely understanding and having confidence does not get you the experience of No Self. He makes it sound like it is an intellectual exercise.

The definition of stream here is much too simplistic. According to Ajahn Brahm, a stream enterer has recognized "no self" which is no small feat.

This seems to be quite the book so far. It really does a good job of explaining "no self". I wonder if the content of the work is legit, or if it has been embellished. After all, I've always heard that Buddha did not ever answer the question of whether or not there is a self. http://www.buddhisttexts.org/ebook---the-vajra-paramita-sutra.html Any opinions on this work from someone whom has read it?

Naw, Dzogchen outright rejects the two truths.. http://books.google.ca/books?id=UXK9JGMVW9IC&pg=PA93&lpg=PA93&dq=dzogchen+two+truths&source=bl&ots=v7krvN8vwc&sig=ha8LOu6r5qkxWPtlEtMSoL5ZcK0&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vibpU_qHM6OtigLI3YDQCw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=dzogchen%20two%20truths&f=false

I guess none of my business, but I thought that Goldisheavy was just suggesting that the study of solipsism would be a good introduction to further understand the mind-only view. I didn't think he was advocating it.

SJ GMP is being facetious

Feng shui is as iportant as proper spelling. There is nothing more beautiful than a Feng Shui garden. Admiring beautiful things is good for your health. http://homegardenair.com/applying-garden-fengshui-tips-to-your-garden/sunshine-gardens-bto-feng-shui/

http://www.amazon.com/Approaching-Great-Perfection-Simultaneous-Dzogchen-ebook/dp/B00B6U17WI/ref=tmm_kin_title_0