Fū Yue

The harmony between opposite and complimentary notes creates a friction similar to the sound of raw space/time, or the suspension between the mind-reflection of past and future. This creates the illusion of infinite 'echoing' forever into and out of the space between heart beats. Maybe, who knows.

I know, I really wasn't expecting that. It was pretty awesome. Is there an avatar thread? I want to discuss.

Well, the thing about your last sentence is that it was a misquote of me. That was my post, 'something about meekness and bending trees'. I originally said "because they are wise enough to bend with the trees". You were born soft and malleable. Your mind is still soft and malleable at it's core. If you practice one pointed concentration that is paying attention, yielding, bowing yourself to accommodate awareness. That awareness takes the forefront, you get out of the way. Eventually there is just that awareness. Just as through meditating on the elements you take on their characteristics, or seeing bitterness and hate in the world you take on that despair. Everything that appears difficult is secretly easy, everything that appears hard is secretly soft. I suppose I just can't understand why people want to take the long way around, when they can just cultivate spontaneity right now and be free or 'powerful'. The n/om doesn't come to those that don't know how to let go, whether it be letting go of power or practices. It's all a dance, all music already. All you have to do is tune in, listen to the sweet sound of silence and let it move you.

I disagree... I think, really, people want to be free from power. People don't want force, they want ease. They want softness, they want light. They don't want to fight any more, they don't want to struggle; and it makes sense, too. If you're constantly chafing against bondage, of course you will never be free - you aren't giving yourself room to breathe! Trying to wrench the secrets of life, from life, with weapons or tools... it wont work, right? You just think yourself in circles with the sixth sense, you try to trace all the conflicting opinions back to the source and you don't find anything, you just become more confused. You look into the mirror with the sight and all you see is a fiery reflection. You can only taste hues, you can only hear the variant twang of one sound. You already said it, this "spontaneous arising" only occurs when effort is abandoned. When you give up contrived power and yield to the flow of the silent being, then you become the river of life itself. You can't own freedom! It defies all attempts to seize, to reach or to 'have power over', by virtue of it being you. It is not complicated. It's the simplest thing in the world, that's why so few people attain it. They see the truth everywhere, completely naked... and they're dumbstruck, they think, "That can't possibly be all there is, there's got to be something else" Gods are just puppets of the buddha-nature. Freedom is being them, not the other way around. It is being you, too. It is everywhere, it is being everything. No reason, why not? That's all there is to it.

It's difficult to leave when you were never really here in the first place, Most have no clue what it is that is happening right now, they think that their misinformed opinions of 'what is' - no doubt a recycled version of what their family, their friends, some pastor, some scientist says is true. They don't want to look past it, because they are afraid of the gap... They don't want to admit that maybe what they've always thought had meaning was really meaningless. So they let it get to them, and their minds are become full of hardened shells, the carcasses of imagination and whimsy struck down by their own depressions, impressions of wrong-doings ironically committed by them against themselves. None of it is real, though. Whether it be violence against your own ego, or striking out against the universe that beget you, you are doing nothing but throwing stones at your own shadow. What is real is not in the past, because those are just stories now... Myth. What is real is not in the future, either, because it that just smoke and mirrors... Nothing more than a reflection of the past. Reading some thousand year old text will do nothing for you, it is not the spiritual path. Tradition is not the way. What is real right now, when you have not aged a day? The meek shall inherit the earth because they are wise enough to bend with the trees.

If you start to associate expanded awareness with sexuality during waking time, the moment the dreams start taking a turn for the hot and steamy you will automatically become lucid. Works for me, at least.

Instead of trying to turn away from the impressions or suppress them, maybe you can analyze them in order to break down the cause behind their appearance. What about them attracts you so/ why is it manifesting in such a way. You seem to wish to change your view on sexuality at a fundamental level, and in order for that to happen you have to go into the temptation, the lust, and you have to find the root of that habit. Aversion never really works out the way we want it to, often just giving the opposition more reason to intrude upon our mind. Just remember that it's nothing to be ashamed of. Only once you've accepted the feelings that arise... then you can work past them, because they're no longer seen as an obstacle, something that's getting in the way. You know? Like twinner said, engage more than just your lust. Use your mind in order to concoct interesting fantasies, improving your visualizations. Bring feeling, smell, taste, all the sensory perceptions into it. Experiment. Have fun!

You completely misinterpreted everything that I just said. You took it all at face-value rather than looking toward what I was pointing at. It sounds to me that you yourself have a barrier you've made with all these preconceived absolutes.

I've done it. Or rather, it was done. I've entered the mysterious pass and have given birth to an unspeakable existence, but it was premature. I'm sure there are others on this very forum that have done it, that are doing it. Your own beliefs are the only thing holding you back. What do you think the sole 'agenda' of the spiritual embryo is? To endlessly shed conditions like a snake sheds it's skin, the form-mind will become married to the formless, it is only a matter of time. From that point on you are no longer simply a man. You are undivided light, being whatever it is you wish to be in ecstacy. Such bliss comes from touching the abyssal Tathagata and knowing that you are not touching any thing at all. The endless intercourse between light and emptiness, the wisdom eye... at the center of it all, there is the Buddha, and he will accept whatever you give to him. Virtue arises spontaneously. The rays of sunyata shine forth..

I disagree. I think your idea that there can never be a consummation between the formless and the form is an egoic delusion.

We are they. You can't spell self without elf. I may be joking.

The reflection of a billion-years-long fantasy. The self, the sufferings and pleasures... altruism and villainy; the thousand worlds and their human kinds, the death that walks behind and hope for a better future ahead. It gives us what we want by becoming just so, and then we don't want it anymore and keep on seeking, and the wheel keeps spinning. It is the wish-fulfilling gem. The Jinn in the bottle. Or maybe not! The doubt we all feel is just like seeing something shining in mud, from a distance. Do you keep on walking the beaten path or take a closer look? Sometimes we try to take a step forward and fall on our face, go into a coma and think we've become billionaires after selling a 300-karat diamond on the silk road. But really it was just a dream.

I don't get it. Don't you want to leave samsara? So why are you feeding it with things like this?

Laughter is divine, the world is silly and the gods are always smiling.

OK. Do you have any fun?

Sounds like taoist yoga.

If you come to understand the mechanism, in the end you will discard the need to put it in words. The subjective worlds or 'internal considering' arise from a misunderstanding in the first place, and so as the truth is revealed, the knots naturally come undone. Is that not the purpose of zen koan? The deck of cards topple over and you see that it was just your shadow all along. Language is the ultimate koan - pursue it to the end of the known and there is a mystery. Pursue the merit in all of the sciences and chase after 'subjective truth' and soon you find that your boundaries were just a foolish assumption. Dissolution takes on many forms. "Uncovering the mechanism (the Tao), without understanding what the mechanism (the Tao) is not, is folly." Agreed. Trying for candy, grasping for make-believe, accidentally swallowing manjushri's burning sword. It gets them every time. In the process of the journey, though, compassion is generated for the 'other' or 'others' and they naturally bring themselves in accord with the heavens. For regular people, it is a good path. Keeps the mind sharp and lessens the hold of stereotypes. The path to knowledge is an unknowing... the more you learn, the less things 'make sense'! Eventually you are bound to give up 'senses' completely, holding on to the only thing that embraces all that your view now encompasses.

I agree with you that one should consider all the worlds when choosing one's actions, since the taiji pole is the pivot of the whole universe. Most people don't look at a painting and see an alien planet with it's own sentient beings and their sufferings, just like they don't look at a forest and see family. Similarly, the subjective worlds that each individual inhabits, the advanced ecosystem of thought chains and archetypes that make up our human brothers should be similarly regarded with mindful compassion. Seek understanding of the mechanism before drawing blueprints!

Enlightenment is not about life and it's not about death, it's about resolving the schism between them and ending the war.

More like, all misunderstandings must be resolved, not elimination but transmutation. An enlightened man does not wage war on himself or any one. Preaching so loudly about nothing, you will not be able to hear your higher self.

Because no high-level master would find that, since they have right view.

From all that you've said on this forum, you don't sound very happy, tulku, or peaceful. Maybe you should reconsider your path.

Don't you know that your senses are the world? You don't even know what you're breaking out of. All of this talk of samsara and bondage, yet you've still not given up your destructive crusade. Just another attachment.

If there is neither perception nor non-perception, none of us will be conscious of any world arising. There will be no inhabitants arising, nor minds, nor bodies for those minds to inhabit. Sounds like just another prison to me.

That's the most hilarious thing i've heard in a while.