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'The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet's population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans'.12 Oct 2010 This outbreak had no conspiracy theory behind it (not that I know of) and its source was said to have started in the trenches with pig handling. It tended to strike people aged between 20-40 as their immune response was strong so their lungs filled up with water very quickly.

Generally speaking, most great spiritual masters had to live lives of poverty, either by circumstance or by just letting go of all they had, to release their minds and hearts of desire and attachment. Most major traditions advocate at least a period of poverty so that attachment is diminished and the mind and heart can therefore concentrate and focus on becoming one with the Dao etc.

Yes I agree with you. But will the hurt for Josh Allen come in the form of picking up a dirty spirit that he won't be able to get rid of? Time will tell. As I have said there is a framework that one must go through therefore one is then protected. If he wants to play out his Dao version of Macbeth in his backyard then that's up to him. He has been warned of the dangers. No more needs to be said. I expect he's got bored of this now and really couldn't give a toss what any of us think.

Yes and no. If we look around the world at what goes on, millions of people are taken in by charlatans. Peter Popoff is one such charlatan and one would hope that people would be able to discern the false from the real. He's made millions out of his scams, so evidently they cannot!

Ah..... but I'm not a fun guy like Josh, where Josh has fancy expensive cars and clothes etc., I spent years having nothing. I think our worlds are at the opposite end of the spectrum.

I have some idea and indication by what you write. and what you have written in the past. For example "I will have to simply disagree with this point. Working with energy and spirits is no different than working with one's own mind. There is nothing simple about mind purification or realizing universal wisdom, other than from a theoretical perspective." There is a whole universe of difference. Whether Lord Josh Allen is genuine or fake you have little concern, only that he is "fun". I share Walkers concerns. Walker and I have not had the best responses from each other in the past but I am in agreement with him here. I really have no concern about what you follow or what you think you follow, I only have concern how Dao practices are being taken into disrepute by 'fun' guys like Josh Allen and basically giving people the completely wrong impression about what Dao is about. I say this from my knowledge of the DDJ and the teachings of the Immortal Masters. One might say I was too serious etc. If fun and connection is what you are interested in then its best to keep away from what is potentially a serious subject, don't you think? But we are talking about Dao practices and perspectives, not Bon Po Buddhism, not Osho, Fa lun Gong, Jehovah Witnesses, etc. or fun cults involving money and sex, although I'm sure there are many a Dao sect that could come into this category!!! We are talking about whether the op is suitably trained to call himself a Daoist and do what he does and setting himslef up as an authority. We are considering whether perhaps he is suffering from mental illness, or whether he has got himself a dirty spirit in doing what he has and is now under the power of that spirit. This "fun" guy could be potentially dangerous and inadvertently doing some harm to others. You certainly have given me the impression that you are not very enamored with me over the years, with your "fun" and barbed and cutting digs, but that perspective in judgement is limited by your experience imo. I have never done this to you.

I have said many times on this site about how one goes about learning from an Immortal Master. One has to humble oneself, go on bended knees into a blessed temple of the Immortal you would like to learn from. You have to beg with all your heart for them to come to you to draw the Fa Fu, Fa Shui. You could be on your knees for hours and they never come. You could be on your knees every day for the next year and they never come. In my case I was in the Temple for twenty minutes and then my hand began to shake and then move violently and drew the first amulet. Another Chinese medium was in the Temple watching a 'Guai Lo' doing something that most people couldn't do and was amazed. The next amulet was drawn so powerfully the brush flew out of my hand and across the Temple floor. I then begged for the holy water, which I did, I was instructed by the medium how to take the amulets and water. I did not know the names of the Immortal masters only two of them by common names. But I was sincere, humble and that is what counted more than anything else. I then realised that the world was not just material and there was things in it that I really had never known and only heard of. I realised that Gods did really exist. There then is a framework once you have been accepted by the Immortal Master, and not long after I was part of a ceremony that Involved another medium in trance of the Monkey God who baptised myself and others into the faith. I was instructed by another very experienced medium as to what to do and to proceed forward. There are many mind games that people can play with themselves, there are many dirty spirits that can play with people who dabble in this without a real knowledge of what they are doing. It is of no use one doing a ceremony to invoke a spirit if you haven't got the power to do so or the ability to recognise what spirit may come to you. Spirits of the earth are extremely powerful and can easily destroy life. Immortals have unlimited power and when they possess someone they come at a minute fraction of their power otherwise they will literally fry up that person. The Monkey God although is a Buddha was exclusively trained in Daoist arts and martial arts before he turned to Buddhism.

Do you mean this: If people had just a little sense, they would walk on the Main road But people love to be sidetracked When people are sidetracked, they love splendid clothes, fine jewels and material possessions..............

No not all; the term 'plastic shamans' refers to people who play mind games, think they are communicating with spirits but are not. An Immortal master knows this so they will always present themselves physically first, never the other way round, only if they are not pure and their intentions are dishonorable and harmful. Which would not be a 'realised' person like an Immortal, but a earthly bound dirty spirit.

I'm sorry to say this is your lack of real experience. Working with the mind very often involves mind conversations of ones own making. Working with spirits involves a physical experience which can lead to mental communication only after some years of physical presence being possessed at certain levels by a spirit. This is why it is so important to go through the process laid out by thousands of years of experience and tradition in these matters. When an Immortal master comes to you and they are willing to teach you they will come physically only. As you grow in experience and practice so they will gradually communicate with you mentally. And you will know the difference between 'mind games', ie talking to yourself and them saying something to you.

"Those that know of the Dao are just a few those that think they know are many Therefore I wear simple clothing and hold my treasure in my heart. By holding my treasure in my heart, I am at one with the Dao." (Lei Erh Xian Shi, Dao De Jing)

Actually, to be precise Daoism, Daoist are English words. In Chinese It is a single character that can be added to others to make a different meaning. Dao was understood and known about for thousands of years before FuXI, Huang Di etc. For instance humans noticed that the bending of a branch had properties that could harness the force of nature and so the bow and arrow was invented some 60,00-75,000 years ago. Such observations about energy that existed in nature became a fascination to people. They observed animals and plants and so it was conceived that there was something greater and wiser behind everything. Sensitive people observed that life seemed to have something more than just material. So shamans evolved and became part of virtually every culture around the world. Now shamans are seen as 'wise', so the first drawings of wise people were that of shamans walking along a path knowing the way nature worked and the forces behind it. So we get the first meaning of 'Dao'. Anyone who walked that path and shared in that wisdom pursued Dao. People revered Dao because it mean't they could eat and survive better. Religious Dao came a lot later with the practices of Immortality and calling up Immortals.

I'm afraid you are misinformed. Huang Di (2697 BCE) was first associated with Dao. Lao Tzu (Lei Erh) 600 BCE brought Dao into thought and prose and from then Dao religion was founded by Chang tao ling, based on the writings and teachings of Lei Erh, and Zhuang Shi. So the five pecks of rice and then from this the celestial masters were formed. Before any of these Dao was an adjective used by ancient shamans and escoterics to describe certain states of nature and mind.

I agree with Walker wholeheartedly, on the point that really Josh is bringing the name of Dao practices into disrepute. Without a solid foundational knowledge, he is selling himself as someone who has knowledge. If he believes that Kongming is teaching him, there is a well established system and way that a person has to go through to establish this connection without doubt. Kong ming does not appear in the register of Immortals. The system is not an easy option and you can't buy it and it involves true faith and sincerity. It means kneeling down, being really humble, and begging your heart out perhaps every day for over an hour to try and get the Immortal master to come. One may do this for over a year, before the Immortal master comes. Or you may be like me, do it in twenty minutes. It has to be done in a temple that has been blessed or in the presence of another shaman. Once the Immortal master has come you are left in no doubt as your body is taken over by a force that is beyond your comprehension. I have taught many to try and they have not been successful. It is a very difficult thing and the Immortal masters are not that easy to persuade to be your teacher perhaps for a whole lifetime. Even though I could draw the fa fu etc. The Immortal master would not teach me martial art. I would stand arms up for over an hour, facing the east, begging, but they would not come. After two years of going this, one day the Immortal master came and he said, I'm going to teach you my Tai Ji. From there I went on to learn 13 different styles of martial arts. I think if Josh wants to carry on doing vids etc, he needs to make it clear that what he's doing is for entertainment value only. Then he will not be misleading people into thinking that he knows what he is doing. I don't think it's fine but is acceptable.

Gosh wish I had a family with lots of dosh, I wouldn't have to keep working my backside off just to pay the bills!

Depends on what side of the fence you stand? At the moment I see visions of many Indian gurus, a lot of them frauds, enjoying driving around in Rolls Royces, tucking away millions under their beds while sometimes pleading poverty, while many of their followers live in terrible poverty. etc etc etc........... Most hermits live in caves or huts, have little or no compassion for anyone else, have very few possessions, some have no clothes at all. When I was in Asia I came across a hermits cave up in the mountains, it was just below a temple devoted to Quan Yin on a shear face. There was no room to park a Jag. Josh really has no choice but to be honest about his love of cars etc. Most people would brand him immediately as a fraud, (as they did), so he has in fact preempted that by coming out as being honest about his love of material possessions and this makes it somehow ok? Bill Porter wrote a book (Road to Heaven) about finding "hermits" in the mountains in China. I honestly don't think even stretching good humility and compassion, can we call Josh a 'hermit'. I think part of the problem is that he is fully attached mentally and physically to the material world and even when he says he lets go of ego in ceremonies he is just fooling himself. He is attached to the idea of ceremony and being dressed like being in a theatre performing Shakespeare. He appears to me to be a rich kid indulging himself in all that he wants and his passions and he makes excuses for himself for his lacking and by this, hopes to make an impact as a hermit on us the GP. Unfortunately he does remind me of a better version of Mak Jo Si without the swearing and the pretending that he knows something. My advice would be to leave all his material trappings and shave off his hair and spend a few years in a Buddhist monastery in somewhere like Thailand. He will then understand the nature of being poor and how many of his fellow humans even in the west struggle for survival on Boris Johnson's 'Universal Credit' and the reliance on food banks from churches etc.How people with no home live terrible lives on the streets. This will help him understand what the word compassion really means. It will help him to understand not being attached to the self and putting others first before his own needs. There can be no lame, even if honest excuses there.

If you can and want to, tell me Josh, how did you get your money?

Yes most ancient Chinese forms were focused on battlefield craft and when studying a weapon for instance like a sword, one has to be able to use both arms in the same way..... if your right arm is injured you then must use the left. The form I am practicing in the vid is the Monkey God's cudgel form. There are three forms and all are quite acrobatic and long. The cudgel I'm using is quite heavy, being made out of a very strong hardwood and about 45mm in diameter. In the training we learn to use a stainless steel cudgel weighing about 40-50lbs, and do the forms with this. My one I used to practice with, is a scaffold pipe filled with lead. There is a great difference between cudgel and staff techniques and then spear. With a heavy and unbending cudgel, force and movement must be generated by technique and 'Jin'. Spear neads flexibility and really only one end is usually employed. Staff is thinner and longer and has some flex in it, comparatively.

If you want to learn 'magic' one has to be given 'fa' by an Immortal from a temple where it is safe to beg them to learn. It is safe there because the idols of the Immortals are usually blessed and 'open eye'. 'Fa' directly translated to English means to 'send out' to 'issue'. To the Chinese it means 'Divine energy'. Depending on the sect, a novice shaman once accepted has to spend over a year begging for the Immortal master to draw the 'Fa fu and Fa Shui' these the novice shaman takes internally, until his/hers body has been filled with energy of the Divine Master. Some sects have five amulets. Some sects do not do this and the shaman relies on calling down the Immortal master to do whatever is needed. Some sects like mine, we are given the 'fa' and if we are lucky we are taught how to cultivate it. But being given power means that one has to be pure and use the power wisely and appropriately. We don't need to call down the Immortal spirit to draw holy water or amulets. In an emergency we can do it ourselves and help whoever needs it. Mao Shan sect are renowned for their powerful abilities, but we do not use the power to show off, do tricks and harm others or other life. It is not intended for this, it is intended for self growth, to help other people and to become pure and lead us eventually to spiritual Immortality.

This why once you have been accepted by an immortal master another shaman goes into a trance and blesses you. Those marks put on your body protect you from any spirit that may come and interfere. The 'fa' that the immortal masters gives to you can be used to destroy bad spirits, heal and all sorts of things.

The other reason why you may pick the leg up is to avoid a trip; there are many low spinning front and reverse spinning trip techniques, involving using the foot as a hook.

Yes quite simple answers really, when generating force and speed from a low point, in this case the end of the cudgel, to bring the leg up at the same time adds to the generating force and the leg protects the lower groin and other leg. When doing this it is a specific strike, short and quick. This is why the foot is pointed down also. If a kick or weapon was to strike from below and catch a foot that was vertical, it can knock you over, for it has a surface to strike. When doing this one has developed the ability to stand on one leg and be almost immovable. Here I was just doing some bits of forms Most of the forms I learned are very long; 180 moves. Some quite exhausting.

I don't mean to be horrible, but I thought as much. I have been a traditional Dao shaman for nearly forty years. I was accepted by the immortals masters in a temple in Malaysia and have practiced under their tutelage since. One thing that separates me from others is the fact that I am physically possessed by the spirit master who has taught me all sorts of things including award winning martial arts. Now if you really want to alter the weather and I have, you have to have real contact with the Immortals in heaven otherwise both the weather and the immortals will ignore you. Your altar should face the East, that is the Dao heaven, the south is Quan Yin and the west is Buddha. In this video, you will see the inside of a small temple of the sect, me practicing martial arts back in the 90's and me begging the immortal master to come and draw the traditional Fa Fu and Fa Shui. I am actually wearing a robe of the sect. I have worn it three times in forty years!

So what is your lineage, your pai, your teachers?

Hey you're not in league with Mr Tin Yat of Cananda? Most genuine Daoists and shamans wear jeans and a t shirt; The forces or heaven and earth don't give a monkeys what you wear, it's about the power one possesses. The more powerful the Daoist the less likely he or she will need silly hats, robes and paraphernalia.