dharmabum

Look! The other half Yin and Yang in unity The universe rests

no thoughts, just being eternal, as the river does without doing

longing for springtime ending of cold dark winter salmon swim upstream

red fire touches clouds brilliant light illuminates toothpick on sidewalk

the sky is blue bleu morning sun on mountain white all nothing special

when i really need it "it" is there, "it" is nowhere the eternal tao

i've always hoped to find a discussion forum regarding tao. i have read about 15 different translations of the Tao Te Ching and notice how much the author/translator often impose their own personal biases in their translations. i recall two if the translations were almost identical. one was put out by Penguin Books and the other was authored by a professor at a small college in about 1961 - his name was of Chinese origin. i have 2 questions: first, does anyone recognize this second translation and know the author's name? second, do other people have favorite translations of the Tao?

wow - i am amazed and grateful for all that i have gleaned from this discussion. i have taken some of the links and found more translations that i never even knew of. even Alister Crowley! and a little searching found the translation which i had sought - currently published by Shambala, by John CH Wu originally put out in 1961. a funny twist on things - as i had mentioned that this translation and the Penguin translation(by Chu) are almost identical save for two slight variations (one used "empty vessel" the other "uncarved block"). now i see that were published in New York less than 2 years apart. hmmm....perhaps this is no mere coincidence. thanks to all who contributed.

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hi. just joined here and look forward to posting. not too many places to discuss the tao here in alaska. greetings to all

me? i'm in kodiak - on kodiak island. you got to fairbanks when they opened the Dalton highway? to the North Slope i assume you mean - that must have been quite a while ago.

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interesting stuff. i have read the Menzies book and find it very informative. he refers to a previous journey to North America by one man before the great fleets in his book. i can't recall the name of the person he refers to, but there is at least one other book which alludes to this person from China who arrived in North America. in his book "Great Explorations" Amundsen refers to this same person as teaching the Aleut natives on a particular western Aleutian Island a form of acupuncture. also, i recall he mentions a native group in British Columbia (Hiada?) who, in one of their traditional songs use a line which is a direct quote from a buddhist chant. Amundsen also alludes to the same stories as Menzies that this same person is part of Southwest native lore. all in all, Menzies book is amazingly researched and i personally believe in the premise he put forth in his book. the previous post shows some more proof of that. remember, the Viking saga of Vinland was dismissed for eons before the discovery at L'ance aux Meadows.