Chang
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Greeting from a Zhan Zhuang man: what am I experiencing exactly?
Chang replied to MichaelJ's topic in Welcome
Hi Michael, The experience you describe could certainly be attributed to chi. It is always difficult to offer advice on such matters without actually viewing the practitioner and so the most useful advice I could give would be to find a good teacher and let them guide you. That said welcome to the Tao Bums. Chang -
It may be considered insulting but it is also necessary. Efforts are being made to discredit both a method of meditation and an organisation teaching it. The person making these efforts has not only admitted failing to master a simple technique but has also admitted failing to follow the simple instructions which were freely given. Having failed to master the basic technique on which the organisations teaching rests they have then gone on to rubbish more advanced techniques quoting references from unrelated systems in an attempt to substantiate their claims. I am sorry if I have caused you offence. I can see no good reason to further my exchange of opinions with the creator of this post at present but should they create further posts of a similar nature then it may well prove necessary for me to speak out again.
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No we are not enemies as I do not consider you in any way a worthy opponent. I am however concerned regarding your character which appears to be that of an Intellectual Anarchist. You spend overmuch time attacking AYP but so far I see no recommendations to AYP students as to an alternative path for them to follow. I can understand why you post your rants on the Tao Bums as you have been banned from the AYP forum. I fear that the end result is that you are simply feeding your grievance. This is far from healthy. So to sum up. Let us have a little less rant and humbug concerning the AYP system. They gave you the old bums rush from their forum for being a pain in the backside but what the hell! Let us have a little less of the Intellectual Anarchist. Stop ranting and start giving details of an alternative practice which you consider better. Stop quoting from various intellectual books and start speaking from your own knowledge base. And lastly stop being so damned clever. Good luck and best wishes. Chang. An unrepentant practitioner of deep meditation
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Hello and welcome.
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Unfortunately I must disappoint you. I am no more able to remove the mystery of the TM and AYP practices and prove that they are a viable path to realisation than you are able to prove that they are not. Why you find the method of mantric meditation employed by TM and AYP to still the mind such a problem is beyond me. The method is basic and straightforward and so far as AYP is concerned forms the foundation of a much deeper and extensive teaching. Do you honestly believe that practitioners cannot tell the difference between catnapping and transcendent states of consciousness? What contempt you must have for the "intellectual pygmies" who follow these routes. What overwhelming faith you must have in your own method of practice. I have however, neither the time or patience to enter into a pedantic and intellectual debate on the subject.. You have obviously spent much time in intellectual study of matters meditative and I fear that this has been to the detriment of your practice. I also suspect that you will see some victory in my reluctance to enter into debate with you. Indeed the victory is yours if you want it for you are obviously very clever and that is a word I would not use to describe myself. I wish you well in your chosen path, whatever that may be.
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Yes I may well be doing my fellow bums a disservice but then again so may you. I have practiced TM since 1977 and yes I am familiar with effortless mantra repetition. You must remember that there are many paths to the top of the mountain. We must all find our own path and not be too quick to dismiss the practices of others.
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Deep meditation and sleep are two different states of consciousness. You are obviously of the opinion that the practice of mantric meditation (as taught in TM and AYP) leads only to dozing off. I can only assume that you have never yourself entered a meditative state, had you done so you would know that the two states are very different. Whilst I am sure that some practitioners believe that cat napping equals a meditative state, no serious and intelligent follower of this meditative technique would be so fooled. The AYP system gives a wealth of practical knowledge free of charge and is presented in such a way as to make the most sophisticated concepts and practices understandable to those who are willing to give their time and effort to its study. I would recommend any Tao Bums who have not yet perused the AYP Site to take a look. Advanced Yoga Practices
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There is an old saying that "threatended men live long" and I for one have little belief in the effectiveness of curses. I would also have grave doubts as to the competence of any healer who began rambling on about my being subject to a number of curses, especially if they offered to rid me of them for a price. That being said there is a danger for those that do believe in the effectiveness of curses. If such people believe that a curse has been laid upon them it may end in a case of "that which I greatly feared has come upon me." When all is said and done a curse has about as much power as a blessing.
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Nothing compares to a good teacher whose classes you can attend. If you do not have access to local classes then it were probably best to go the way of Spring Forest Qigong, if you had to chose between that and Ken Cohens essential Qigong training Course.
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Which Jenny Lamb DVD are you using and what are the exercises?
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Hello and welcome. As a nude, pot washing, masturbating painter who practices tai chi you should find yourself very much at home here.
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Whilst it is certainly possible in principle to learn Zhan Zhuang from a book or article the importance of proper posture and structural alignment cannot be over emphasised. If at all possible find yourself a class to attend with a good teacher.
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Hello Steven. Welcome.
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That will be a long job. Hello and welcome.
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I am a great believer in the use of bodyweight exercises to supplement Qigong. This may give you some ideas.