Marius Tudor

Hello everyone Yesterday I wanted to post something in thetaobums forum in order to get some insights about certain topics but I realised that merging so many topics would be catastrophic.Therefore I've put my thinking cap on and after a while I decided that I should begin with the basics, and after I get enlightened on the topic and my attention span is still big enough I would go further into topics such as breathing, meditation, tao,sexuality,health and the list goes on. The subject which I intend to talk today about is a succinct comparison between major religions of the worlds and which one reflects the truth.Therefore I will begin by summarizing according to my knowdledge the basics of my religion. I am a Christian Orthodox and I will do my best to illustrate it in few words using local tradition and information gathered in religion classes in school and so on.Here are the basics of "my" religion: #There is a single God which is seen as a "trinity?" which is composed of the holy father, spirit, and son ( I do not really grasp the meaning of that and I would appreciate if you could feel me in about this matter) #According to your doings while you live you will be granted a ticket to either heaven or hell after you die ( this somehow is simmilar to karma) while in Catholic version there is an extra dimension called purgatory which is between heaven and hell. #There are 10 commandments which everyone must obbey and you can check them out here http://1stholistic.c...ommandments.htm #The teachings of both catholic and orthodox versions of christianity are based on the Bible which is composed of the old testament and the new one. ( tell me if I'm wrong) #There is a hierarchy system in both orthodoxism and catholicism which I recall to be one of the reasons that Christianity split into the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church in the Great Schism.Due to some issues I cannot tell much about the hierarchy system of both since there is a barrier of knowledge and language (english is not my native language) but I know that the split was made because political and economical interests and catholics talk about Papal infallibility which means that the Pope is s preserved from the possibility of error ( quote from Wikipedia.org) which to orthodoxism appears to be an outrage and aqward to me aswell. #Speciffic prayers such as "Lord's Prayer" http://en.wikipedia....rd's_Prayer #Some traditional rituals which I don't know if they are practiced in my country such as performing a gesture upon passing near a church which depicts the holy cross #Other rituals such as adopting a sort of vegetarian diet before easter or christmass but you can however fish based products in certain situations. (fasting I guess is the name) #Jesus Christ is a central figure in both orthodox and catholic church.He is considered to be the son of god which gave his life in order for us to be redeemed.However in islamism or jewish religion he is either depicted as a mere prophet (again tell me if I'm wrong) #Creation of the world:6 days to create it and the 7th was for rest, Adam and Eve, the Apple issue (was the snake Steve Jobs? ) , followed by the banishment from the garden, the arch of noa, jesus,and so on.Evolution is sort of discounted. #Some differences between orthodoxism and catholicism, in orthodox church there are no chairs , the architecture is different whilst in a catholic church there is a chorus and there are chairs for people to sit.Other that that to me the western church seems to be more somptuos and classy whilst the easter one is more basic and simple. Orthodox crossCatholic cross Before ending here is a link which may come in handy for you: http://www.patriarhi...zentare_en.html Now I would like if you could tell me a thing or two about the other important monotheistic religions (jewish and muslim) and about hindu religion which I recall is a politheistic religion which has 3 gods ( brahma vishnu and shiva) and then tell me about buddhism.I want to add that there i have an acquaintance which studied theology at Oxford and told that the Orthodox and Catholic church might merge again and also told me that Christian religion is "the best" (which of course I took with a grain of salt).That's why I want so bad to get more informed.The last thing that I want to add is that that as I said my native language is not english so please forgive any eventual mistakes in my language which may include grammar and the correct usage of words, meaning , bla bla bla... My 2 eurocents , peace!

Maybe but your brain will be wrecked by this "healthy" cocktail.

No problem at all, When I was a bit younger I was quite a religious person and did not question even the most basic principles about religion however after a while I went to an extreme.I became an "atheist" and it was funny since at every religion class in school I caused a little mayhem about this subject.But again as the time passed I noticed that this is not enough.For instance emotions being just a chemical reaction to a certain stimulus was not enough and seemed too scientific.I noticed that you cannot dismiss spirituality totally and this always haunted me.What I can say now is that even if I want to go back to my "religious" state I simply cannot.My awareness grew and I must get to the next level if you will and learning about other phylosophical trends might help me a great deal. I while ago I heard about Tao and it really sounds very interesting and I'd like to focus our attention on it also.

Everybody has his/her brain wired to hold on life.When you feel pain you get signals which tell you that you should stop.When you face a situation which is life threatening your fight or flight instinct is activaded but I know you all know this.We have a hard time standing to entropy our bodies and also to other factors in our environment.However I don't know if it is natural to oppose it or the other way arround.Who can really tell what is natural or unnatural?For me it's like someone trying to be spontaneous is not natural since spontaneous means Performed or occurring without premeditation or external stimulus Cya

haha the most of you are old

Science is a great tool which helps us in our daily lives or atleast the product of it, but I think you went too far.As I said a few days ago you make long statements about nothing and lately it has been really hard for my attention span.Please keep it simple. Btw et-thoughts you have interesting ideas which I actually absorbed but lately your comments repell me from further reading. this is a summary of the latest comments: the truth is that the truth is non truth that in religion you don;t need truth but science is truth which is proven ....and the truth is that the truth is the truth....bla bla bla atheist is non religion.......wrong Random question:How can someone believe with all his heart in something and does need to proof for it and get to live and act accordingly?

When I started this topic I totally forgot about the "quantum physics"

Cigars in the UK are damn expensive but in my country are way cheaper You cannot even compare 15 pounds to almost 3 pounds here.

I am a smoker too.When I began to smoke the cause was a social one.However after months of "practice" I began to smoke even when I'm alone.It's an interesting subject anyway

It is aqward since people say that rolling a single dice you have a 1/6 chances to get the desired number.However if you throw the dice 6 times that does not mean neccesary that you will get one side for each throw.If the number of throws is increased the sides appear almost equally.However I think that throwing a dice is dependent on the speed of wind , weight of the dice,speed of the dice, and so on.If you can throw the dice with a certain speed and so on you will get the side that you want.

I'm trying to tempt you all

God doesn't play dice! what do you think about this statement?

what is so special about numbers such as 7,3 ,6,1,0 and 25000?

I see that I had two busy days and couldn't take an eye on what happened in this thread and there are already two new pages worth of your insights.After digesting it all hopefully I will come with something englihtenining on the matter.I have some new questionts to ask but it will change the topic 180 degrees so I choose to rather not ask them. See you tommorow

Wow I never knew that the story of adam and eve is shared by both christianity and islam.What about jewish religion? I never understood faith to be honest.It must be wonderful to have faith in something but for some reason I do not thing I ever experienced a full surrendering to a belief.What could be the cause of it? Anyway thank you for the post since it adds new flavour to the topic.

I took a nice walk

Thank you for the answer and please forgive me for being off-topic

Yes I did smile There are some concepts which have been bothering me for as long as I can remember Btw.I sent you a private message yesterday and it was about the excercise routine you reccomended.Please check it out if you have the time and willingness, thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #What I did understand till now is that "truth" can only be aproximated when it comes to doing a rational effort.Language is precise and the truth is somewhat irrational.Take for instance number pi (π)=3.14159 26535 89793 23846 26433 83279 50288 41971 69399 37510 58209 74944 59230 78164 06286 20899 86280 34825 34211 70679...etc.You can make an intellectual effort untill you go insane and you will still not be able to find all the digits.This is why I think the disscussion about truth was in fact in vain.You really complicated things instead of making them easier.On the tao bums forum I expect TAO answers and not those elaborated speeches with nice words and overuse of neologisms.Keep it simple guys.I myself noticed that as the years passed and I go to school and read stuff and try to explain certain concepts to myself I always get better and better at an intellectual level but I still make the same mistakes and find myself in the same patterns.I realize that what I did now is a display of hypocritical bullsh** but it was the best way for me to approximate my feelings. I hope you got the idea guys, and I hope that you will come again and say a thing or two about tao. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer:Please leave your "brain" at home next time.

what's the difference between mandarin and cantoneese dialects and which one should one learnt by someone who wishes to get in touch with the chinese culture.Also can someone who speaks mandarin understand someone who speaks cantoneese?

Yes of course I did reffer to your latest post at time.When I said that I am sorry about not understanding I actually thought that just saying "I don't uderstand" would seem somehow offensive to you from my perspective. Now I see what you meant.True display of mental lazyness on my behalf.When I said "maybe someone can tell" it was me asking if there is someone which knows the rest of the anecdote since I forgot it. Yep I'd be better off know I would do something about my missunderstanding instead of being sorry for it.I'd like to blame my "english skills" but I would be fooling myself. Right or wrong is a product of our perception.Right or wrong do not really exist.There is something "right" and that is called tao?That "right" cannot be defined by contrast with anything. If I were the judge I'd treat each individually and not by contrast, even if many will see this outrageous. Nice example. Now deliberate and tell me if I'm "right"

Sorry but I did not understand your point

I'm like to know more about chi, how to feel it ,store it ,circulate and use it for health and fitness of the body and mind.

500$ eh?what does the copy consist of?

Yes thank you for the advice.I will keep a note. Who was Abraham? I take it that he was a prophet ... Anyway I kinda got the idea about "Abrahamic" religions, however what can be said about "religions" which don't need a god?I used quotes on the word religion since no other word popped-up in my mind. By the way, I read a while ago a short story about buddha.When buddha was walking with some followers of his ,he met a person who asked him whether if god does exist or not.And he replied not.After a short while he met another person which asked him the same question but this time he replied yes.After that person left his students were intrigued and asked why did he answer differently on the same question.The answer of buddha ....well, I forgot what it was...but maybe someone can tell.

Yes it is something that I have stumbled across many times.All those people are making you feel guilty for not being a christian, and I fell on this trap many times.