Yoda

Still playing with the morning routine moves. after the vacuum breathing, I'm liking the standing meditation where you breathe through your feet for a bit, then you breathe through the 8 Immortal holes of the sacrum or whatever he called it. It is a stimulating way to breathe, though. Have to try breathing like that in cultivation. That would go with Lin's anal breathing drills nicely too. So breathe like that for however long you wish then sit in a squat to stretch things out in kwaville for several minutes. Hold the palms facing the center of the earth pulling in the goodies through the feet and hands. Hang out there then stand up pulling up the palms along the feet and legs as you arise and slide them over your sacred bone and charge up them holes and breathe through them again. Then slide the palms over the kidneys and share the vibe with your little tigers. -Yoda

Another great post! I would say that being sexually revved is a prerequisite to turning the light around. Need light to turn around in the first place plus the pressure of the light forces one to move from dual consciousness (oh me so hony) to mixture (I love you) to non-dual (dude...)

I have surrendered in my attempt to get the 5Ts back into my life, but I am doing the spinning drill as part of my morning routine.

Leo, Obviously I don't agree with everything in the book, but I read the reviews of it at amazon to get the gist and I very much enjoyed his perspective--thanks for calling it to my attention. I could use more time spent in darkness--I can see that it's true and Osho's book of Secrets and Chia's darkroom stuff is big on this point too. I can see that people in general evolved to get more sleep. Even though we evolved at the equator where it's light 14 hours a day, I'd be interested to hear what he says about the northern gang who have light all the time in the summer. I know that the northerners can store the vitamin d they get from sunshine in the summer and live off it in the winter--maybe there's some way to store melatonin??? I actually count practice time towards my sleep quota. Even exercise, as it improves the quality of sleep. Maybe that's cheating? I'll play around with sleep a bit. I stayed up late (in the dark) thinking about it last night. In the last few weeks, I've made a point to be in the dark for the last 1-2 hours of my waking day. -Yoda

Grasshopper, Did you shoot someone in the service industry? Chew out a child? It's OK, just part of the learning curve. If the problem was excessive aggression, try out the keysound practice--I've been having luck with it recently. We expect great things from you. Reread Napoleon Hill's think and grow rich sex chapter every so often. I think the big dreamers get "pulled" by their dreams and their excitement about their plans, and the chi naturally moves upwards so that they don't obsess about sex and when they have sex, there isn't as much of an energy loss, just like that passage I quoted in this thread. It's a secondary objective for them, not the primary objective. When there isn't a huge life passion as is typically the case, pushing chi upwards with too much force, can be disadvantageous. That's a nice thing about the keysound vs. the tantric/taoist methods is that it's more of a pull from above than a push from below, and it's easier to stay balanced. -Yoda

Interesting thread at rmax, I'm glad somebody brought up "Consistent Winning" that there is a huge need to honor periodizing and crosstraining principles to avoid blowing a fuse. Like any other practice, running and other cardio drills can be overdone and should be gradually introduced. I've never looked for a 4 day letdown after serious exertion, I'll check it out. Then again, I don't actually exert myself in the first place. From what I learned from Pavel, I stay well away from exhaustion in any form of physical training whether cardio or sexual training. As Pavel says, you should feel more energized and alive after a workout than before one. If you follow that principle, you'll never overdo your training, you'll gain strength faster, and you'll stay away from injury. Pavel's philosophy definitely has that lazy, meditative, taoist wisdom going for it and can be applied to any form of learning. As they say at dragondoor, in order to gain strength, say goodbye to 'working out' and say hello to 'practice.' -Yoda

Awesome post, Sean! I have Swenson's short forms and it's nothing short of spectacular. If I can dig it up, I'd be happy to lend it out to whoever. (VHS) I acknowledge the huge benefits and coolness factor of Swenson's sort of yoga, but it bores me to tears--so I'm happy to find a like minded comrade! That's what I'm diggin about Warrior Wellness--it's fast paced, I keep moving, and I stay satisfied. As I'm just a WW newbie, no need to branch out yet. I'll be interested to see if Prasara holds your attention. -Yoda

Here's another good one from Steve Cotter. He is investigating how to combine western and eastern fitness modalities to be the ultimate fighting machine. Dragondoor moves so fast, that I can't keep track of it, but I occationally search the site for Cotter, Maxwell, Ducane, Pavel for ideas. He's advocating standing meditation between KB sets. He says that the world of qigong for MA is as hush hush as it ever was. He's replying to Bud Jeffries, a world class athlete, getting into qigong as a support to his strength training. The Dragondoor superheroes have astounding energy levels. I wouldn't say what I do is more or less advanced. The degree of advancement is more a matter of depth, not complexity. Simple is generally good. I am experimenting with various postures, both static and moving, although the mainframe comes from zhang zuan and wuji standing nei gong. I hold the postures. Sometimes in conjunction with visualizations, sometimes 'empty'. I also will do some sitting qiging, and some variations of bone breating, combining with BOSU or taiji/IMA. I let the moment move me. The main thing is to maximize the time I can use for training, emphasize quality even over quantity, and to try to find the 'perfect balance' of work:productive recovery. Most breath control and recovery as I am applying in conjuction with the KB training. There is no doubt that your incorporation of qigong has much to do with recent PRs. Stronger, clearer focus will have that effect. I don't know of anyone in the modern era that has effectively combined S&C with qigong on a high level. I know there are people out there, but they are keeping the info to themselves, by and large. I see that there is a huge area for discovery in this area and I must continue to test these principles upon myself, so that I can help to better refine this process for the 'average person'. There is truly a source of great potential in the combo of qigong + KB, especially now that DD has heavy KBs ;-).

Leo, that sounds like a theory hatched by some scientist who doesn't want to exercise. Any exertion whether running, walking, gardening, taichi, or daily life 200 years ago, would begin to release endorphins after 30-40 minutes which feels good and allows a freer energy flow. Evolving a trait to make being eaten more comfortable doesn't make sense to me from a biological, evolutionary perspective. In my opinion, endorphins do have a survival role--allowing for one to get into an energy saving groove for really long treks and work sessions like Hagar mentioned. -Yoda

yep, the whole thing is just a variant of the standard yoga vacuum breathing drill. Total, complete exhale (put some exertion into the exhale), lean forward, (in the yoga drills the hands are on the knees) then close the throat and try to suck your balls into your head. It sends the energy up. It's also the #6 drill of the 5 Tibetans (but only works with some degree of sexual control, per 5T book) Then Chia adds the tongue out while churning the stomach--you are on your own there. I can't do it either. Just move your guts around and stir them with your hands to assist the motion. Both latitudinal and longitutinal circling. Then Chia adds the penis pull, while the tongue is still out, plus the above organ circulating. I'm excited that I have a physically based morning routine in place--now I can mix and match cool elements. I need the cardio to set up a good groove for the day, then do the WW which is quicker and easier to complete than Chia's stretching drills (I am easily bored with stretching, so it's got to be fast paced). I'm going to incorporate this penis pull breathing it's a good one for sexual transmutation as well.

running is the bomb! Osho recommends 1-3 hours of exercise per day in order to properly function and to meditate correctly. I believe that the human body has evolved to move a lot, if it doesn't get its daily movement quota, it freezes up and doesn't work properly. The nice thing about running and cardio type exercise is that it isn't too intense--you really can do an hour a day of it w/o breaking down as long as you crosstrain with something else.

We watch those things all the time. Our goal is to eventually own all of them. It gives you the 'bigger picture' of life.... we have all the BBC Dinosaur movies (Chased by dinosaurs goes step by step through the baddest sea creatures ever) the blue planet, and "the future is wild" a dvd set where scientists speculate on the direction of future evolution. This isn't as hard as you think--we have so much past evolution to study, that it's pretty easy to guess how it'll go down. The one assumption that they make is that every few hundred million years a meteor wipes the slate clean and earth starts all over, except for the very smallest of animals, and sea creatures fare better than land creatures. So they guess that humans will be wiped out on the next big impact. I'm not so sure that we are so easy to get rid of. Given our survival, we would probably control and guide the evolution of the larger species esp the big land based predators. In the race to crawl out of the sea and take over the land, the octopuses and the squids are most likely to do the best and take to the trees like the primates and eventually evolve intelligence, sperm retention, and become taoist immortals like us. -Yoda

I've owned the aneros for 2 weeks and have tried it 3 times and I've achieved... Hemorrhoids. I'm not making this up. What should I do? Ebay it? Maybe I'll just hang on to it so it can show up in my estate sale someday. In the words of Avril Livigne, "So much for my happy ending." -Yoda

that's one of those iron shirt practices we are better off without.

I'm diggin the good Doctor Stockham--she's the one who coined the term Karezza http://www.luckymojo.com/tkpbrandolph.html http://www.luckymojo.com/tkstockhamkarezza.html She's pretty impressive--born on the frontier in MI in 1833, became one of the first female MDs, travelled to India to learn about sexual yoga, saw through the whole "this is a male practice/women are bystanders" thing and then came back and spread the technique in the US as a form of emotional healing and birth control (as contraception was against the law at the time ) Amazing. -Yoda

check it out, if you google "heartgasm" you find your way back to the taobums and my previous attempt at this practice. Any updates from Matt and Turbo?

Peter Falk is moving around in China right now, but I'm sure he could back up Guy's perspective on sex. But here's a quote that expresses this path (googled gurdjieff ejaculation eso--the first site that comes up): this may seem strange coming from a sexual hedonist like myself...as celibacy is one of the last things that i would ever consider for myself, but i have recently been experiencing major transformation and ecstasy from withholding ejaculation...i do this in conjunction with lots of time focused on sexuality, tantric stimulation, and ejaculationless tantric orgasms...so to me it is a hyper-sexuality rather than celibacy... i used to believe that the tantric idea of the semen physically moving into the brain was only metaphorical, and have read that it is physiologically impossible...but i have found that after a week of intense tantric stimulation and ejaculationless orgasms, that if i finally ejaculate, there is only a very small amount of semen...if i merely abstained from stimulation without the tantra, i would build up a very large quantity of semen after a week's time...so where did it all go? i think that the tantric stimulation got it physically moving up my spine to my brain, although this is not the only possible explanation... anyway, my general level of ecstasy/bliss/loving euphoria has increased drastically over the last few months while i have been doing this... i do actually have a physical ejaculation about a couple of times a month, so i haven't found that complete abstinence from them is necessary...this would compare to my previous norm of having about one a day...but for me, it is the combination of withholding the ejacualation along with extended orgasms (often longer than 30 minutes*) that makes the magic... (* for info on extended sexual orgasms, see Alan and Donna Bauer's book, "ESO: How You and Your Lover Can Give Each Other Hours of Extended Sexual Orgasm"...it's an inexpensive paperback that is carried by amazon.com) Naturally, I ordered ESO a few minutes ago... although I have my doubts that I'll learn anything new. I'm renewing my quest for the "ejaculationless tantric orgasm". If anyone is fluent in this dept. please post any 'how to' tips.

quote dujour from Gurdjieff: One must know that this divine seed, the Sperm, has another function, that of the construction of a second body in us, from whence the sentence, Happy he who understands the function of the exioehary for the transformation of his being. Unhappy he who uses them in a unilateral manner. Don't ask me what it means, but sounds similar to taoist theory.

taobum vs thetaobums reminds me of the Gurdjieff vs Ouspinsky fallout. It's pointless to debate, blame, fight, or try to heal it. Whether or not Gurdjieff went nuts, got mean, became disapointed with Ouspinsky, or was compassionately using skillful means as a teacher, the whole thing helped Ouspinsky to stand on his own two feet. I've learned a tremendous amount from the taobum gang, particularly Ron and Plato, but that doesn't mean we have to exchange Christmas cards or anything.

I'd love any initial reviews--thanks!

don't spill your seed solo, either. Dual is better as you'll be picking up some good vibes and donating your loss to a good cause. I agree, the weightlifting example doesn't follow. Exercise whether lifting, running, etc expends energy and pulls in breath/energy/prana and once you get the swing of it, it is a net gain unless you are really out of shape and blow out a tendon or something but ejaculation expends energy and pulls in energy, but the ratios are not as favorable. If the ejaculation is very light and there's more of a heartgasm going on as is the case with Guy, then the loss might be managable. Why waste a perfectly good two weeks on an experiment that you already know the result of? It'll take another two weeks to catch up. Dig that book on amazon. Here's a link to the dude's sexual philosophy: http://www.luckymojo.com/tkpbrandolph.html There is actually a tradition in Sufism that advocates pre-ejaculative prayer and intention. Ron has also mentioned casting curses during ejaculation, as well. Looks like the luckymojo website contains the very same debate as this thread, just a 150years ago. -Yoda

All kidding aside, it's an ethical company with a good product--so I didn't have to return it or anything. -Y

Here's a post from Guy that he had intended to post here, but it got cc to me. Good stuff, agrees with Matt's thoughts. Still, I'm not lined up for Sean's challenge. Here it is: I had just turned 23 when I experienced a full awakening. I am now about to turn 55. My wife and I are curently together for ten years and we have a soon to be six boy who just started school two days ago. We also have to large dogs four cats and eighteen hores to care fore. I have always had a very high sex drive and do not recall ever saying no or mabe later to my wife. Frequence of intercourse is determend by my wife and her state of health When she is able the energy is fulfiling and certainly not draining. I usualy remain in bliss all night after orgasm. Lovemaking is an unhuried experince of blending so deeply as to have no distinction or boundries between you. Letting go of the, I am doing this to him or her, is the first art. Forget the distinction of your male or femaleness and surrender into the oneness. With open heart Guy

Hardly an experiment, reads more like a suicide note to me. Have Lezlie promise that she'll only date taoboys in the future, we want to keep her in the tribe. -Yoda