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ok well if anyone can teach me, or knows of a teacher, or one in mexico.. then cool. Yeh I find it interesting how women use an egg.

sun in my eyes

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So I tell myself, I am not "sensitive and weak" anymore, I am strong, and not bothered by other people so much...so I need some money to go to mexico next month, so I should look for a job, so I get an interview, and all of a sudden experience extreme lower back pain, I cannot even move, sure some people may say this is a coincidence, but I dont think so, I think I created it myself.... Is this how important doing what I love in life is, I tell myself I should just be normal and live like other people live, doing jobs they hate to make money, but is this really normal, or just a definition of normal coming from a sick consumer culture

xyz sometimessss......sometimes. sometimes.

Hi clarity, thanks for offering your insight and clarifying hope you are doing well too. Sinan

thanks, I agree, I think my higher self wants a short period to know I can handle work, and feel more integrated/need money lol

Thanks turtle shell, some words of truth there. Thank you thetaoiseasy, for sharing etc. I appreciate it Yes marblehead, perhaps should look from that perspective. Just going despite any pain, although mostly got rid of it, with qigong, and a cold bath.

native americans in particular believe illness can be caused by not following "ones true path" so to speak. I know this is probably true. When I mention on this forum that different actions will weaken or strengthen me energetically, then people will say Im just making it up. This is quite typical, to be spoken down to like a little kid, when actually I have considerable knowledge on certain topics. Went to a qigong seminar the other week, doing spontaneous movements, healing the stand in teachers..and getting told off for it because a "beginner" should not do that.

Thanks but the topic is specifically about work/menial slave labour work..very different to "life" I can understand my OP will irritate people..but what can I do.

cool thread. I want to play the fluteeee. so cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ32CbC_PBk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QriFEeaxW4w in touch with the spirit

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a friend/two friends gave me a "reconnective healing" when I was at their house doing a Qigong workshop. The energy was very subtle/different than what I had felt before, I went into extremely deep stillness automatically. It was like a white tingling, but the main thing is it is far more subtle than one realises. Also as friend says they do not talk or acknowledge bad chi. This is good Imo because this mentality can become funny. They said they watched me and my eyes were flickering really greatly, I had no idea.

Yes, keep doing Bioenergetics. and practice mixing the shaking with intuitive movement, spontaneous dance, let your body move. I dont care what anyone says this is the most powerful practice. It is better with a transmission to empower it but not 100% neccessary. Then start to practice accupressure/reflexology from google images ten minutes a day. Over time your hands will hit your body etc. Just came back from a Qigong workshop on the first session was banging my head on the floor, got a massive bruise, then by the next day it was gone after punching myself there, Ive been doing this in my room punching the right area at the right intensity, I even use a knife and scrape it with appropriate intensity. This is Hard Qigong, very good for health, bones, skin, tendons. There is the shaolin style which is not intuitive but the disadvantage is if you do not do it intuitively you can hurt yourself. peace

Even if one "meditates" and is in a state of emptiness. One still has beliefs, they reside in the subconscious and the feelings. Which will affect the energy system and the behaviour etc There is no such thing as not having a belief system People have certain strong thoughts, feelings and memories whether they delude themselves into thinking they do or dont. Not needing to call it "my belief" or "my belief system" or even "belief" but it does kind of exist, and is not a worthless thing imo.

fair enough, sorry about previous comment, got annoyed about people not believing things I tell them.

lol some real idiots on this forum. I can do certain "powers" but Im damn well not going to upload them for people to sneer at, that couldnt tell if something was real or fake. Sometimes I want family members to know certain things I know, and even though, I know theyre true, the level of insults and arguments I go through before they agree with me is ridiculous. Someone told me yesterday "do not cast your pearls before swine"

The original op was the the negative use of intelligence and how it can be used to justify ones belief system, but later, i thought the word intelligence was a bad word for the point i was trying to make.

I wanted to add that The word belief is deceptive. It is a thought and one can believe it to various degrees....eg certain, almost certain, very likely, quite likely, perhaps, quite unlikely, very unlikely, almost untrue, untrue. Also beliefs have truths depending on ways of looking at them. The idea that no one exists or "no one has a belief system is also a belief" is an idea that is true on the level of emptiness and almost completely bogus on the level of human reality and form. There are things which are almost certain and a lot of people regard their ideas as almost certain because they realise that most things are partly untrue so they cant be fully certain of it. If they regard something as almost certain or very likely, it is almost as powerful as a 100% belief, even though the word belief is a concept in itself. So if one thinks that a group of "a certain race, with hoods on" are dangerous and going to rob them 90% and get scared etc, then this is an idea which might not be a 100% belief, but an idea which is very likely and so strongly affects them. There are some things which are not certain 100% but if I walk in a road of cars coming towards me chances are I will die or get injured. Perhaps one might say thats just a belief, but this kind of thinking is silly imo. As some things are far more likely. For example I might believe someone is cheating on me, because I misinterpreted a situation based on a past situation and then get angry and break up with someone, I can say that I didnt 100% believe it because I am a conscious person with no beliefs but I thought something was very likely so the idea affected me.. (just using an example) A certain member who I wont name, says that he doesnt have any beliefs, and is very very experienced in meditation, however he mentions how evil pitbull owners are. So even though he says he doesnt have any beliefs, he has a thought which may not be 100% fact considered to him as hardly any thoughts are, but 90% or more. So again ideas, etc matters. and no I am not against the concept of stilling ones mind, or meditation. I am for raising ones vibration, living in harmony with ones heart and higher self, etc etc which depends on ideas at least to a fair degree.

Agree and disagree An unconscious belief is otherwise known as fact. Most people who have some experience with enquiry or the nature of beliefs know that for every belief the opposite is true. However if they believe something is a fact because they dont know it is just a belief then they will not see it as an opinion but as a fact. Some people get too wrapped up in this "conscious person with no beliefs" or "unbeliever, believer" brainwash from meditation teachers, everyone has strong beliefs which are basically unconscious and accepted as facts, until they recognise they are not. "A conscious person" whatever that means is not cut from a different cloth they still think some things are facts and some are opinions. Let me give an opinion. One may never have been to the other side of the world but think that a certain country exists due to seeing it in the media, so they do not know, but they believe it exists, to them this knowledge is a fact but it is more like a belief. People may think that we have been going to the moon and visiting it all the time, and it is just empty, but this is what people have heard from media, and since they have not been there it is more of a belief, when there are a million other ideas about the moon. A "conscious person" will still think the moon is what they have heard and regard their belief as fact. So their ideas do matter.

10 hours of practice of a strong method will open many channels. Sifu Rel is pretty highly developed compared to some people, in this thread too. So what if he balances books on his head. Thats a training method. You lose the real truth by getting lost in superficial judgements about age, what someone talks like acts like etc.

"The real question is not whether life exists or not after death, the question is whether you are alive or not before death"

If there is a strong belief, or I know I have strong negative beliefs towards certain topics it does not mean I am not in some way strongly affected by certain topics. I know that certain areas which make me very weak have to do with very negative beliefs, and knowing I have them and they are just beliefs doesnt mean they are resolved one looks to shed light on them. Funny I also see some of the "snake oil salesman" as meditation extremists who act like psychos.

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Hmmm I think when I use the word Intelligence, this is not a good one as intelligence can include perception and everything. Yeh the word intelligence was a bad one. I was reffering more to the analytical right brain without left brain kind of intelligence seth ananda mentioned. Or as donald mentioned rational but not conceited. Perhaps they are different words, but one can see it meaning the same thing. An example I can give is when has a lot of clarity/wisdom, this can blind one, then they believe everything they know is true, which it is nice to be certain, but some people can become too imbalanced with this, and not have a flexible zen mind of a begginner. At leasy one can be aware of their justification. Perhaps it is just my perception of their behaviour as bad, but many refer to this zen state of begginers mind or humility, Although a state of certainty is also nice. Its having a balance, maybe its not so good for one to philosophise about it (like Im doing) but shed light on it, from healing codes or whatever. peace