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Interesting, that resonates with me somewhat too.

This is not the tao or buddhism or anything. Buddhism has a lot of talk about compassion etc etc As does Taoism talking about balance, Deci just seems to be blabber on about how nobody exists, but constantly tells us were all idiots and shes amazing, but then she doesnt exist, lol. This is not anything lol.

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Im not confused here, I dont need to read anything, I am sharing my view on the whole "non existence philsophy" and its ability to attain energetic enlightenment.

Also there are infinite levels of energetic enlightenment The theories of non existent enlightenment are almost a hoax/myth. The idea that thoughts, actions are meaningless etc is innaccurate. There is a book called Buddhahood without meditation. It is more of an energy thing.

There is a big difference between philosophical enlightenment and energetic enlightenment.

Zazen the instructions are just sit. Taoism is about harmony and balance of opposites. Native Americans talk about Inner silence Telling people they dont exist, and they are fools etc etc is really starting to irritate me.

everyone has functional selves, even so called "enlightened people" whatever that means Desi likes to mislead people, to put herself on a pedestal and suck other peoples energy. Enlightenment means being filled with shen, a golden light body. Self denial is not the only way one can achieve this. Many "enlightened people" no such thing really do not advocate self denial and there are many levels of this. She says she has attained enlightenment "who is this I?" is she going to say this I didnt exist, that she didnt write that thread. Its just misleading people. Reminds me of osho.

gah.

http://thetaobums.com/topic/31630-dream/#entry476595

hii

I have reached to a conclusion I was just listening to this song It is stuck in my head some guy was singing it in the park OVERRR MY SHOULDER CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT look in my eye OH yeh, over my shoulder now, here is the... bla I forgot how the rest goes. Oh yeh.. Oh wait nothing nope.

cool stuff

i like tao..nice guy

a little disturbing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_MEf6MYDfE

I am actually wondering the point of starting a poll to ask whether most of the forum agrees with the new editing rights or not. Then when there are 3 times more people who wish to have it back to normal than not. The rights still havent changed. Im just curious what the point of starting such a petition was, and why it has not changed back yet? Can you change back the editing rights now. Many thanks. or will my request be ignored for the third time.

AH yes, once again some of my posts were illogical and heated so my apologies.

ah yes, a bit heated and emotional, would have liked to edit my comment, but...anyways.

Oh come off it, really People dont have to spend their time in stress, but after a while some situations will get to them. Tell me have you worked jobs like a charity fundraiser job where you knock on peoples doors bothering them about something that mostly goes to rich people, for 10 hours a day six days a week for 3 months, working sixty hours a week for 3 months and get paid like 40. How about working in a supermarket for sixty hour weeks, nearly every shift it is understaffed by 1 or 2 people and you are running around like a headless chicken doing 4 things at once and get constant complaints, if someone complains the manager blames it on you, and your effort is not appreciated but one small slip up and you get fired. Go preach contentment to someone in this situation. I think contentment can sometimes be a form of religious ignorance. There is a place for it, but its also nonsense sometimes, unnatural. When a dog wants to go for a walk do you preach contentment to it. It is forced. The above I was doing when I am actually very smart and have had a lot of options in life. I have never heard this paradigm before "If your not growing, your dying, if your not going one way, your going the other, nothing stays still" I dont know about you, but for me, I want to make sure I live my life to the full and do everything I want to do and everything I can help others before I die. I think people are getting confused here, and also confusing being spiritual with loving poverty. Let me tell you when I went to India, first of all I went there on £1000 for 5 months, secondly there were so many poor people, like dirt poor people, beggars, kids with arms cut off being made to beg constantly, they got their arms cut off when they were young so they could be better beggars. Or old men that work as taxi drivers risking their life constantly for a few pennies. Or even the businessmen who were poor were constantly trying to scam their customers. Tell me what is so spiritual about being poor. It is not natural to say that circumstances never affect anyone, yes you can be content, but seriously your be content preaching irritates me.

I was talking about an old job of mine, glad to hear your job is better tho

**Disclaimer...This post is nearly two years old.. Heres two articles about Shame and how early memories and feelings from those memories affect our life.. http://www.eftman.com/html/eftfor.html http://www.narcissismaddictionsabuse.com/codependency%20and%20Shame.html So here's a technique that Ive been using called Emotional Freedom Techniques..which is like psychological acupuncture, it differs from normal Emotional Freedom Techniques because we think of the earliest memories associated with the painful ones and then tap on the child in that memory as if they are real.. Also I decided to put in Byron Katie's the work whilst interacting with the ECHO/Inner Child. As well as using positive affirmation tapping after neutralising the emotion. Once all emotions from the memory have been neutralised, you can change the memory and associate for example your best friend the feeling you may have from a best friend into the memory. You can also use the feeding your demons method of feeding your Inner child love and watching them change. So you go to the memory you want to work on..which you choose either randomly or the earliest memory which is associated with a feeling for a particular challenge you want to overcome. You go to the memory and talk to the Inner child, thank them for holding on to the pain, ask if you can tap on them, help them see things a little more clearly. When you get their permission, ask them what they feel, where they feel it, what kind of feeling it is, how strongly they would rate it out of 10 with 10 being the highest and what colour it is. Then Use Byron Katie's- The work- Can I be absolutely sure this is true? What is silly about this belief/feeling? How do I react when I believe this to be true? Who would I be without this belief? Turnaround (opposite positive belief) and three examples to prove it is true (destroying the thoughts for the belief) Then Ask to tap on the Inner Child/Echo whilst you tap on yourself- It might be easier to say- Even though "you have this feeling" whilst imagining tapping on the ECHO/INNER CHILD. I dont know if I am doing this wrong but sometimes I spend half an hour just going through one emotion, I make sounds and I know feelings are being released, pain is coming out. Once Ive tapped on all the points, I roll my eyes clockwise, anticlockwise, look left and down, Look right and down, count to five, sing a song, and count to five again.. I might then tap the positive affirmation twice on each of the points afterwards I keep going on every feeling the child has even feelings like "I am only loveable if I am the most dominant, I am only loveable if I am successful or achieve, I am only loveable If I complete a challenge/pass a test" Then we change the memory as before with the associating positive emotions to the new memory and feeding the inner child love whilst changing the memory.. Ive been doing this and noticed dramatic changes in my self expression, honesty, self worth, sense of power, sense of joy etc However as sinfest mentioned in another thread I am feeling slightly dissilusioned by this because it feels like I must always be fixing my past, like I have a never ending amount of memories to heal, Im never good enough or healed enough, I must continue healing memories..

Some more thoughts Watching films often brings out a little sadness that some people like me dont experience much of haha..anyways irrelevant point basically one looks or sees situations where there is disharmony and sadness, anger, fear etc. For example I used to hate watching romantic comedys, because some of the films made me sad, eg the topics about heartbreak etc or the film I just watched now, I noticed some sadness when this guy seemed to be getting used for his wealth. So anyways I set my intention to heal the energetic weaknesses or memories etc and can change whole life behaviour patterns EXTREMELY quickly, I am just shocked at how quickly strong patterns of behaviour can just dissolve. Ive done a lot around abundance and money etc, and strongly feel very different about the subject, many things are popping up feel more balanced to live life in a way that pleases my heart better. Also around taking action, sometimes with the spontaneous movement practices or listening to ones intuition, it can get a bit over the top and ever adhere to logic or wordly goals free of intuition, I dont know how many people have this issue, but I find this can be a bit of a disharmony too, to only adhere to intuition...hmm Getting rid of feelings like only taking action when my feelings say so, or feeling good/wise enough to take action, certain memories eg coming from war or school. Also I go to a few of close ones memories and work on them at the same time, it affects me anyways and I find out different energetic weaknesses such as realising that I have a weakness around fearing to make someone jealous or feeling that my success/abundance will make someone hate me or it is bad to make others jealous when it could also be good. Also I have lots of conversation with trees in particular. They actually gave me certain topics to heal in particular. But today when I wad doing a lot of memory work and I came back. I got a strong message basically like "dont do that stuff, it makes your energy unnatural, you need to have a very natural energy to connect with us, and to have natural energy now, ask us to heal certain things if you need or want" I do like this memory healing so it made me hesitant, I would not think of such an epiphany by myself so easily. But later I felt like It might be a temporary thing said to get me to think more in terms of keeping my energy very natural, i.e bring me to balance, eg do some memory healing etc but definately pay a ton more attention to keeping your energy natural, dont over do that stuff, you can do that stuff through nature too. Sometimes teachings or words are good for one person at a specific time especially since they seemed to tell me specific topic to heal issues on. So I just ask trees to heal specific issues "Trees please help me with this feeling I have of sadness relating to rich people getting used for money" and I notice the same energy in the heart, perhaps there is more connection to nature their. Plants and Mushrooms, Psychadelics like Iboga, Peyote and Ayuashca, not so sure about some of these I have a strong preference personally definately heal energetic weaknesses and memories. When I took peyote once I completely stopped drinking alchohol pretty much, apart from a couple of times a month later, and sips occasionally, my body just rejected it. People report similar effects with Iboga the ability to have drug addictions cured instantly, People who have taken Iboga report having memories of past lifes flash etc etc. The same is true with trees, trees can help with ones energetic weaknesses, some trees are very wise, powerful and loving and when you share your energy with it and open yourself open, it cant help but heal your disharmonies. SO yeh Other ways to connect with nature- Imitating animals, walking barefoot, connecting with waterfalls, rocks, mountains, rivers...whatever resonates with one, most of the people reading this thread already know this so sorry for repeating aha

"Many popular financial gurus (like Suze Orman) preach the importance of being very frugal and penny-pinching your way to greater abundance. The irony is that this advice is the direct opposite of what these gurus do to create wealth in their own lives. You think Suze Orman penny-pinched her way to financial freedom? Or saved her money and let a diverse investment portfolio accumulate over 40 years? Nope. She's an entrepreneur who has made millions of dollars by creating a book and media empire that fills a need that has tremendous emotional charge for people. The lesson here? If you're looking for TRUE financial freedom or more abundance in your life, it will never come from excessive frugality. Instead, focus on taking your passions and gifts and help people who are longing for what you uniquely offer. Every single entrepreneur I respect and consider a role model focuses on making MORE rather than spending LESS. This is one example of developing a prosperity mindset"

Its about balance, Many spiritual minded folks are also dirt poor and struggle in life, living a life they hate, does that sound spiritual to you? What is spiritual? To me it means harmony with all chakras including the root chakra of abundance, ease in life etc. Not just the emptiness or heart stuff or being yourself. The high depends on the low. Its not about spending more Its not about being as reckless as you want Although if you have money, chances are you will waste more too. Its about living the way that makes your heart happy. Having freedom. Not worrying about survival SOme people think because some people who are rich are not happy that means getting what you want in life will make you unhappy This is false logic EVerything is in harmony. If your worried about survival all day, resent working shitty 60 hour weeks in supermarkets etc. How can you think about the spiritual It blocks. SO abundance..hmm guess watch some videos bashar, bob proctor whatever. You can also use your wealth to help the planet whatever it is your higher self wants

Actually the voting clearly shows this board does not like these new changes. Last time I checked it was 27 to 10. Even if it was 10 to 10 that would show people do not like these changes. Please change it back now. Many thanks.