skydog

I can make an Intuitive painting for you if you want.

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I dont know much about speaking in Tongues. I have this book on this kind of shaking/kundalini thing. And some people work on the kundalini through ecstatic dance, some do Qigong or spontaneous movements, some yoga, some pray and dance, and seem to have the same experience. They are just using different language and concepts that they can relate to. Holy spirit is their expression of "Buddha"

In a way this thread is sort of proof of how "scientists" would react.

I like the words "misalignment/disentanglement" edit: Yes, I do them sometimes for others silently as in clearing, havent really told people this maybe there is a bit of fear there to say it out loud although mostly it is due to correctly feeling it would be disharmonious in the situation, also there was misinterpretation of Chris D's post. Anywho.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7xLERSRpYQ Yes, there is some rubbish and entertainment stuff here, but yeh.

Yes, I find history a fascinating topic, and it is very difficult to believe everything/anything one reads in books as true knowledge. The existence of pyramids in Bosnia/China/Underwater in Japan, pretty much blows most historical stuff in the water. For example Lets take the David Icke Book (forgot the name) If one reads through it. Lets assume, 90% of it is total nonsense. Which I dont think it is. There is definately a lot of stuff in there, that just destroys the credbility of much stuff that is taught in school Such is the information about the moon. If you don't believe this, one should research themself. Being unbiased, means not taking either view too seriously. Numbers and "science" can often be used to fool people, for example many prescription drugs have been banned and made illegal in many countries, yet it is a mystery how these drugs were even able to be shown in public. It is very likely that wealthy multinational companies payed the scientists to manipulate the data to make it seem credible. Also I have watched many documentaries where archaeologists who have found things that shouldnt exist eg human remains in soil that is millions of years old, lose their job and all credibility because it offended the way of thinking, does that sound biased or unbiased to you.

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That is interesting, thank you for sharing. Yes, I remember some ebook about EFT on my old Laptop there is so much information out there on the topic its incredible.

hehe I was just doing some clearing on "honesty is always the best option, honesty includes xyz, honesty is more important than, honesty = xyz"

Well Im learning by all responses in this thread, a great thing about these techniques....and appreciate the responses, whether or not, my ego feels a hit (so to speak) and thanks for the info clarity.

You are right about some weakness around preaching to be honest. However I find this comment, a little insensitive to be honest. If you are going to make corrections for people, maybe it might be helpful to do it in a way that leaves them feeling empowered and confident. Rather than just reading a long helpful post someone has made on a forum full of cultivators on a topic no one has discussed in a year, and comment on a weakness you found, there is a time and a place for correcting peoples weaknesses in my opinion, and perhaps it would be wise if your going to do this for other people to not JUST comment on the negative as this makes people feel faulty. Yes, sometimes I preach and I correct that, but truthfully most people do, most posts on this forum are some kind of people sharing about things theyve been doing and found helpful, preaching is very related to perception too, two people will say the exact same thing but one is preaching and one isnt, I cant hep it if what I say is seen as untrustworthy when someone else saying the same thing would be seen as being very helpful, look at all these threads about semen retention or full lotus or whatever. I want to give and share something to people, is this so bad? I do not like being called a "preacher" for a post I made about some techniques I found powerful for helping me, maybe if this was facebook ok. Some people have jobs, I dont at the moment, I spend 2-10 hours doing practices for the last year and a half, so I dont see why I cant share something I found helpful on my journey, a lot of people here may spend 10 minutes every few days doing some meditation, There is also the matter of catharsis and getting some validation for things which is very human and most people will do in some form or another, I close my mouth and keep everything to myself, then unleash it at a time when I feel is best. I didnt think this was that bad. It was more of an intuitive urge to show some light somewhere. You know yin and yang cycles. Perhaps a private message may have been more adequate. If Im not honest, Id be doing everyone a disfavour, so there you go.

Oh I see what you did there, he

Yeh I guess so, I guess one kind of just knowsif they are good or bad (I mean I dont view humans as black and white good/bad), or do they?

Also does one come accross animal spirits as guides, I often feel this..? hmmm..

Hmmm I also have a few questions on the spirits. How does one sense spirits or different ones and know which ones are which or if they have a good intention. Is it pretty irrelevant and not worth going about ones life fearing them if mostly one is in a good mood?

this thread confuses me

Well I wasnt reffering to you RV. But thanks for sharing, perhaps it is more of an issue for us cultivators than previously thought. Second chakra is related to passion I think

hmmm, Chris D, thanks for sharing your opinion and I feel there was some truth there. However personally I just thought that I felt excited about how powerful these practices were, and felt strongly that they could help others. The last thread on Yuen method was a year ago. Yes perhaps there was the tiniest element of preaching, although I rarely do this anymore, or perhaps you are projecting from your own view. Discussing things I find powerful to someone who may find it interesting does not always mean I am some selfish preacher. I have spent maybe 150 hours doing these practices in the last month, I have had no money in this time, and do not post on facebook. So I shared it somewhere. Perhaps you have a weakness towards repressing excitement or passion?

What the teacher means may seem unclear. Basically actions, beliefs, wisdom are a form of energy. The lower chakras relate to relationships, society, abundance, being practical, safe, getting things accomplished, family, sense of power, purpose, passions, desires and traumas. One can block these chakras either from there memories, which can be healed, their belief systems which can cause you to block them or there actions/words. For example if one is constanly behaving in a wya that is disharmonious with society or lacking abundance, or bad beliefs about passion and excitement or sexuality, one is not grounded. I think what he means is one can stay in the higher areas, third eye, crown above the head, as long as it is not affecting to ones health or using spirituality as too much of a form of escapism A single action has more power for the lower stuff than just stilling your mind for 5 minutes. As one works on the lower stuff, the higher stuff is also unblocked because its also related. Nature is intelligent, ones body is not meant to be sick or ill, and one cant become enlightened without very developed actions and behaviour, one cant just cheat nature, it is intelligent. If one becomes enlightened then starts being cruel, they will start to become more blocked again. Its not just a matter of cheating the intelligence of nature and stilling ones mind in a certain position. Nature is intelligent. Ok Another way to explain is I did spontaneous movements a while ago for 10 minutes and got a very strong message to never talk about these things in a way that is disharmonious with society, instantly I stopped deleted some stuff and felt much better. Did it yesterday and stopped, did a ton of housework and other worldy stuff, felt much better. Not sure Im explaining properly.

Yes, those are cool

Thanks for this post, I finally understand what you mean and what youve been saying. edit:remove unneccessary stuff

nop

Twas a good post, not the right time tho

What is animistic Bon? Working with animal spirits Imitating animal movements. .