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Why is there so much disrespect in the Taoist tradition?
eternalnoob replied to Cameron's topic in General Discussion
those who show it outwardly tend to not show it inwardly confucius is not authentically looking for help, he represents the oppressive, trickster government trying to mess up offshoots, and stop people from freeing themselves to any alternatives -
Why is there so much disrespect in the Taoist tradition?
eternalnoob replied to Cameron's topic in General Discussion
This is all about equanimity, though all this happens does it matter? its just happening do i need to be 'respected'? no, i don't i don't really want respect, because everything just is. im just neutral, its all the universe, its all divine love, im not happy about all of it but somehow that doesn't matter http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/4522-why-is-there-so-much-disrespect-in-the-taoist-tradition/ disrespect is good in the taoist tradition, respect is more of underhanded way to attack people usually respect is confucius confucius would come to taoists and be like yes i have much respect for you thus i have followed you here and taoists are just like, man, dont follow me, your messing up by groove ,im not guiding you, im not a teacher, eff off this is kind of a wierd really symettrical organized setup its organized to be very dualistic and thats strange to me but but idunno i'de rather have disrespect than have respect turn me into a facist or something disrespect or more so just neutrality,equanimity, not holding one thing high or something else low no heirarchies at all -
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want to go back to normal,my normal true self, in my way of being, not ways others think i should be, not perfect, but just me, not astral, somehow it doesnt seem right, to create so much, for it to be that easy, though in a way its true, and you have to use it, but still, its not my plan, its the universal process, not mine im not saying no imagination, far from it, but it just doesnt come into the world in a controllable way... somehow theres a deeper wisdom to that either my brain is disintegrating or it really is hypnosis, lately everything just seems fake, in these wierd way, like its real, but its coming out of ur mind... its a strange feeling... the first time i really felt it i was at a church... it could even be real, but i just know its not, its not the place where my spirit naturally rests, where i usually naturally go to its just like everything buzzing kind of, but in a computery way feels like everything is a drug, but not in a good way, in like a zoloft commercial way then i look at the mountain and i realize its not that they are my mind its just they are so beautifully real its hard to believe and i think about how the land value apparent went up and now they are raising taxes and its what ive been hearing about it and it annoys me to hear land being spoken of in this way of value and money, and constantly talking about money i want it to stop but we've gotta stop listening to politics so much and really sing just play and love... and not worry about it this is our universe, its not based on that anything here is magic and wholesome even if it comes from there because it was brought here land can't be owned by anyone, its the classic anarchist dharma of peaceful existence, even without the set roles, we can find our place, even without trying to be polite, but just being kind, i wanna be like a river, i want to be like i took ecstasy all the time... it seems more like a shamanic traditional folk song, a song so deep it becomes life, i play a role, we all play our roles, its so traditional, its not really me, im not really a tradition, so looking closer theres no one to play that role either, its just this guy whose come, and they like me, and i think they are cool and kind but just.. its wierd.. its something deeper..its beyond the words, and beyond the outward manifestations of communication... something that like because they are more than the traditions too, thats just the archetypes living in us, thats the past, but we are different than that, from any of those conceptions, what does it mean to be a rainbow, i really can't quite explain... but its different... im learning about a dharma.. its buddhist.. its like a buddhist meditation retreat best not to worry and just live, i get glimpses of it, the whole thing, just living... just living, i just live here, simple, farm person kind of.. or something.. at home coziness, unconditional love no great goals, just peace... no more of the past, i am not that, i am a new me, i am not from the past, i am just in the moment and theres other consciousnesses and its all alive, the consciousnesses commune and go alone and thats the truth, these are the fairy cities, these are the rainbow, this is the underground, this is the spirit world... these are real shamans of that theres no doubt its a crazy place, i've never lived where that was possible, but this is amazing its so good, its just hard to believe its there, its different getting used to it, and really getting the most of it, but i'll learn so many shamans together so much good possible, we cast a spell against the bullshit land thing last night... it was good.. nature is strong.. SULOS!! heres to prosperity for the enemies of the idea and existence of selfish hurtful corporation in all their myriad ninja rainbow forms of sacred magic we have faith wounded healer sometimes the magic is there and sometimes its just like.. like a beat up car or something, but thats part of it i guess, its wabi sabi its hard to bring it back meaningful n coherent from the chaos dissollution abyss but sometimes it does happen and that must be good, though its good to just to ramble of and be misunderstood in spirit though, its the same.. not just looking clean or blah blah blah blah blah my shamanism is rejected on forums and generally not presentable, and im glad.. this is the only low down enough tao place that would take me yet our shamanism is the healing of WORLDS!! WORLDS!! WORLDS! peace and love i am NOT i repeat am **NOT** the grateful dead nor am i new age kitaro, nuff respect, but thats just not my style still like some songs though, just for the sounds of it
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i never really feel at peace until i destroy all the symbols i guess thats why i like wild nature so much... and cannabis, meditation and psychedelics and shrooms which you could say stand for the pure creation coming from the decomposing destruction
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taoist ways of turning stress into vitality smoking herb, growing herbs rollercoasters living in a state of wanton abandon clear the mind of symbols think of the universal love and oneness taking time slowing down savoring detail empathizing cultivating animistic kindness and perception to see all as alive is to live forever, is the most heavenly and equanimous, it is the seeing of spirit itself kamis of wanti poets and the true jewish mystics, (and all of it in turn, freely coming together and apart, in simple benevolence) angels upon seas of rocks becoming trees speaking and growing, the fabric of earth and the universe Mother, you are everywhere guiding, you are old yet young you are within me, as I care for nature, and in the moon and sun as they call me, through the world they are woven, with their rays, their love, and brought together by their gathering, this festival, the stars, we dance and see and dance and see, divining on the walls like the lights of the water on the cave walls, we had painted the sky there, and so it truly appeared things were so true then, we had really made them, by the magic of tricksters the seamsters, of the universe, just a humor, a nothingness, a change of the angle, for that eternal wave which is ness, coming our language is the grooves, it has left, like a volcano long ago yet still shifting, everything is growing like the plants in this garden of oatenlia, the wood town where we rest our heads adventurers upon our steady treading stead, elves taking home in the trees, alora the witch and her broom of good tidings, we fly long in peace, ever living, in ways hard to understand, fading away, and coming back vibrations, all of it, of an eternal truth, i've seen it reveal itself like the face of God, so much emptiness, like the buddha and so much compassion and living like the Goddess all in one everywhere, always, yet we dance along the labyrinth calling in so many ways, finally the truth arises like a koan of truth, in so many simple and merely part of the grand mystery of life beforehand, something we perhaps were not meant to know, but nay, for it swirls together now, the soul, riding purely as the wholeness, like a mist scattering across an emptiness, full of the nourishing dream of life in its true real form, of the dancing energies of the dakinis among the myriad fractal infinite patterns which the river of life dances in its journey, it is a single sprout flowering in all these ways, all of us put together, it has woven and expanded, and continued and gone on, it is the tree of life, Adawapayo, sprouting from the land of Wanti, and verily, it is all things!
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if you can rip off the government in some way shape or form because they know everything is infinite they just try to mess with people, its a think for yourself campaign, even though they should just be open to begin with and save us all the trouble and stress.. now at least someone's admitted it question everything, then laugh at the ridiculousness of your conclusions and know nothing they just want to test you to see if you are CONSCIOUS, like living in an enlightened way, then they return the same vibe refuse to work and only sleep and meditate be truly still and look at things your think are beautiful becoming one with nature which you always are and see what happens the incredible peacekeeping power of now
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relax, if, in your heart, you really must try, dont try so hard
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sometimes i feel tripped out or sensory overload from society with my growing shaman awareness i've learned to convert this gnosis into a healing energetic mystical ecstasy which then feed the trees and the forest; i am an ecstatic tree fairy (etf) , this is my story, chances are if you are reading this, its also yours too because ecstatic tree fairies(etfs) own nothing exclusively my wife flo is a tree, she don't talk much but be around her for a while and your sure to find shes a ok.. or maybe a better way to say is OAK, hehehe... i crack myself up sometimes
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i dont accept them anymore anything in that tradition, its all stupid (that tradition being judaism christianity islam, the ones causing wars in the world right now) i dont have respect for it anymore they may do a few good things but mostly its very wrong... even in the bible so much wrong stop going to totally natural places with totally innocent and preparing them to be desecrated have roads paved through and become part of the system, and destroying nature... how evil is that? and they say we are evil? get the fuck out of the place we do our rituals and maybe itll seem less evil because someone practicing something ahs impure as that trying to meld into a magical ritual with intent against it of course is going to cause it to be crappier.. stop doing missionary stuff, thats actually extremely harmful
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"what is tao you ask? study the rainbow family on the tree of life, dryad folk and you will find that what is tao the shaman medicine which healed the rift that caused the sad to wander sweat lodge thursday many respects, Emotion! not cultivating a recognizable form wanting distinction just there not making sense, praise is death! DEATH!" a raving zen artifact of our insane culture many empty silent fading samskaras to you, woman! bogha-frois!
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have you ever thought about it like this, government: has almost nothing to do with people (at least in the sense people involved in government normally seem to think) and everything to do with the flow of energy, though there is an aspect of this in politics but it goes far beyond that, government should change its way of presenting itself, government is natural, it has always been there, even before thought, in this way perhaps the actions of the people would be wiser, though there are tradition of these people broadcasting these messages, having large organized gatherings, in reality this isn't really the wisest to follow, so many times its just things theres no use in being concerned about or trying to control, we can pray even these people stop trying to control them, or just carry on in our lives, they think they have power, but i just live day to day. a person comes up to me, says the government has done this, that this... i look in my day to day life moment to moment, nothing has really changed maybe some small inconsequential thing, but life goes on, in the present, largely unchanged. largely the government is not doing anything, they are there for psychological effect. i am more annoyed to be hearing what the government is doing, it obsesses these peoples minds and takes them away from relaxing and pursuring a life relevant to them in their circle of existence, it puts their energy into some faraway circle which can't even really be confirmed to be true, so i feel sad at that, yet i can't say they don't have a right to, maybe it does do some good sometimes, probably, but all in all i must live my life, i dont want to hear about it everyday, i don't care, i live my peaceful life. maybe one day something would happen, something great, cannabis is legal all over the world, i'd say wow, thanks government for doing something real, awesome, probably so many are happier and healthier! maybe one day something bad happens, i'll say, man that sucks, if its really horrible hurting many people or myself direction i would probably take action because in my perception thats when it goes beyond the realm of 'government' people talking about nothing and creating false boundaries for themselves in their own little world, and into the realm of something significant in my immediate reality, but i'de take action in my own way, in the immediate reality.. we all deal with what life gives us in our own way, none is particularly better or worse in the long run, but its not all about government, in the way i see the world, neither of those scenarios would have been caused by some artificial notion of an institutional 'government' they would be caused by forces taking action in my immediate physical (and/or spiritual) reality there is so much more to life, its possible to not be involved or concerned with government, nor really be a 'rebel' or anarchist person, or a spiritual person in a traditional sense (though i believe all beings are spiritual even if athiest or something), and still have a great effect on life, the world, things that matter etc. government seems more just like the dharma, much of it seems to be, but in the end its just a group of people getting together to stress over many issues, day after day, stop trying to maintain society as it is, start over again, relax, let things do as they will, take the ego out of it, then real things happen, its hard to explain
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non'masonic' whatever the eff that is, non confucian
eternalnoob posted a topic in General Discussion
we don't like these groups who act so stiffly, rosicrucian mason, etc... though no doubt there is some great wisdom somewhere within these groups, they hold no attraction for us, and yet their sigils have become more and more prominent... InI wonders why? they cloud the mind and cause a bad reaction it seems like its just showing off, whereas where is the good in the world? where are the heroes, which is the round table, where is the virtue? same is so with the kabbalah in our opinion, which is equally chaotic and unfathomable at the core, and yet seems to hold a more approachable vibration, and cohesiveness with an unmarked and neutral life, perhaps for the sake of its androgyny, and that i grew up around many jewish people hehe but yeah in our opinion take your symbols and signs further from public view and actually start doing something... if someone wishes to seek that out, let them seek but putting it into everyones face just seems to have yielded much confusion i guess everyone was into chaos magic and dischordianism... the influence is still there, maybe theres some wisdom to it, but intuitively, it feels wrong.. haven't you noticed? can we not just be simple, do we have to walk around parading our status to everyone all the time, because we are interested in some deep things? isn't everyone in this age? its beyond the secret symbols now, everyone has their own don't they? perhaps its the last cry of a dying paradigm, or something... finally collectively people are ready to create a new face for the more organized celestial practices, one that doesn't seem so lame... maybe all that stuff is slipping away to another dimension where perhaps it can do some true good, but here is not that place, it seems here is to hoping and of course sometimes its fun to look all cool, but i mean anyone can dress up cool, which is well and good, but that just shows the outter appearance is never what you can judge by... who knows who really knows anything.. we just prayer for better feng shui in this universe thanks hippies! and yea.. oats fuck nationalism - DA PREISTEZZ UV WANTI i'm not a rasta (or maybe i am honestly i have no idea) but InI is true, much more important than sellasie... InI is every consciousness InI is the true name of all not sellasie, that represents colonialism, the same thing which causes all this division end confucianism, change the traditions... have you heard that non violence is the most powerful weapon, and ego death is the true nurturer of all truly meaningful life, ego death is what removes us from this illusion that we can talk about anything that is not happening right now never put another person on such a high pedestal for so long, we all have that in us, even in rastafari this happens, haile sellasie is not that great, that same spirit is in all of us, we are all within eachother, because we are not divided by the outlines of our bodies if you look closely there are no outlines at all anywhere lets face the facts, this whole discussion isn't about black or white history at all, what its about is confucianism, no one likes it, any conscious person knows the truth is in the present the world is constantly created now, we can't always go back to MLK JR without really understand MLK was not so much a person, but a quality that lives inside of ourselves all of us, and is always alive, not a seperate person but a spirit a spirit of peace of all relations -
really im just tired of being followed by secret organizations and i think it also has to do with all of this.. and also the fighting i just dont think the books are really all that good, i mean theres some good stuff.. about 2 percent is relevant and thats being generous because even that 2 percent isnt original to those faiths specifically then theres the stuff which is not good which undoes the stuff which is good in my opinion idunno why people defend it just because it says some stuff many others have said in many other contexts before and after that point it mentions it briefly along with a bunch about sacrificing cows seperating black and white, supporting slavery, war for basically no reason, and treating women unequally it seems anyone who really agreed with the good things in it, upon reading the rest of it would stay away from christianity...
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http://www.negativland.com/squant/story.html Good hello, and welcome to the most eye-popping development in the history of vision. This revolutionary innovation in sight is going to make sound simply trivial by comparison, so I'm especially appreciative that the sound obsessed members of Negativland are generously allowing me to introduce it to you on their audio oriented website. If you read the papers, you have probably already heard about the discovery of Squant, but until now details have been sketchy. Many citizens continue to ask me, "Hey, what is this Squant thng anyway?" Well, it's the biggest art related crossover story I've ever confronted in all my years of interpreting aesthetic ambiguities for our relatively unschooled public. No doubt about it, the impact of this will dent many aspects of life outside the arts, if there are any. Let's start at the beginning. Some time ago, the Optical Institute and Shade Company of Mindinaw announced the discovery of a new primary color. For those who never had any interest in colors and never took the time to study a color wheel, perhaps some background should be sketched out here in order to properly frame the subject. A standard color wheel depicts a hierarchical breakdown of all the hues in the universe as we know it, or as we knew it. A color wheel is divided into what are called primary, secondary, and tertiary colors. Up to this point in time there have been only three primary colors, red, blue, and yellow, the basic building blocks of every rainbow. All other hues are made from combinations of these primaries. The secondary color green is formed from a mix of the primaries blue and yellow, for example. Violet from red and blue, and so on. But now, a fourth, never-before seen primary color has been discovered. This color has already been named by its discoverer, Dr. Wohan Squant. With a distinctly questionable view of posterity, he has named the fourth primary color "squant," and that has become the very first controversy to taint this shocking discovery. Several international appeals were immediately filed by some of the world's leading authorities on color, disputing the right of Dr. Squant to name this new color after himself. They pleaded for a different naming procedure. However, it turns out that the Divine Spectrum Institute in Naples, the world's supreme arbiter in all questions of color, has ruled that since no new primary color has ever been discovered before in all of human history, there was no precedent for naming procedures, and therefore Dr. Squant was free to establish that precedent. That, of course, means that any future primary color discoveries will probably bear the name of their discoverers. Now, a little more about the color squant itself. I must admit I have not actually seen the color, in color, myself. So far, there have been only black and white photos of the color in the Mindinaw newspapers which, unfortunately, are not quite up to the standards of USA Today. In fact, USA Today is unable to print the color of squant until a supply of squant ink is produced. In the gray register, squant appears to look very much like a light cerulean blue or a perhaps a mid-range oxide green but, of course, it isn't. It is reported by those who have seen it that squant is a very unusual-looking color, but that goes without saying. Like all primary colors, it is extremely difficult to describe in terms of comparison. It's not really anything like red or blue or yellow. No, like its better-known two brothers and sister of the primary family, squant must be visually experienced to be known. Dr. Squant has already carried out an impressive array of mixing tests with squant and other colors. The results of mixing squant with the other primaries have already produced what Dr. Squant is calling squed, sque, and squellow. If I may say so, this naming perogative on the part of Dr. Squant is becoming increasingly distressing to those of us who love and respect color. However, in a most interesting sidelight, pure squant has also proven to be the only color, primary or otherwise, to carry its own unique scent with it. The exact physiological mechanism at work here is still a mystery, but Dr. Squant insists that to see it is to smell it. Not necessarily, though, because strangely enough, the smell of squant, which Dr. Squant has dubbed "squanty," seems to have an irresistible attraction for anything that is blind, such as ants, earthworms, snails, cavern bats, and sub-marine life below ten thousand feet. The odor of squant is apparently also difficult to describe by comparison to known odors because it is a primary odor. However, Dr. Squant suggests that it's not an unpleasant odor, and should not hinder a universal acceptance of squant in any conceivable application, except perhaps in products that require no odor, such as nose plugs. Which brings up the squanty smell of profit. Squant will undoubtedly be in great demand, so it should give the world's economy a sharp kick in the bucket. However, Dr. Squant, in a completely selfless act of altruism, has donated squant to the whole world for free, as a benefit to humanity. Grumbacher, Liquitex, and Dutch Boy, however, have each filed proprietary patents on squant. It is, as yet, unclear whether a primary color should, or can, be privately owned. And this will probably be working its way through the color courts for years. Each of these companies claims to be the best-equipped entity to mass-distribute squant concentrate to all other color users in controlled and measured increments, which will minimize the potential outbreak of panic or insanity among isolated segments of the public who still may not be aware of the discovery of squant. And, by the way, I certainly hope this report on squant can also serve to help alleviate any unnecessary outbreaks of insanity. Just be aware that squant is coming, folks. It's just reflected light, but be prepared. Dr. Squant suggests that when you first encounter squant, it helps to squint. Finally, one can only speculate about the far-reaching impact on our whole environment due to the addition of squant. For example, this will turn all paintings to date into pre-squant works, making all paintings instant collector's items, so hang onto them. The introduction of squant should revolutionize all kinds of eye-oriented areas such as interior decorating, outer- and underwear, bumper stickers, candy, makeup, paint programs, graffiti, striped toothpaste, virtually anything in which color plays a major role. This is truly a momentous turning point in the now-weary adventure of human perception. There is, indeed, something new under the sun, and now you finally have the opportunity to see it for yourself. Thanks to a personal friend of mine, Rolin Wandbagon, a professional snapshot expert who travels the world looking for saleable imagery, we are now able to present the first actual photos of the color Squant to appear anywhere in the western hemisphere. It didn't come easy! But I'll let Rolin tell the rest of the story himself.
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non'masonic' whatever the eff that is, non confucian
eternalnoob replied to eternalnoob's topic in General Discussion
BEWARE CONFUCIUS!! AND FOLLOWERS OF THIS HARMFUL STALKER PHILOSOPHY confucius is the 'evil'/lame spirit in popular unorganized animistic practice, thought to represent false, hypocritical government, and varying degrees of fascism, racism, sexism, dysfunction, artificial conflict, rampant delusion, extreme manipulation, reccurence of tramautic past, and most of all slavery or extreme injustice, brainwashing, unnattractiveness and infertility, confucius and confucian philosophy it (the true magic) comes from within you and not even your family but you specifically, its between you and the universe, moreso the universe is your family and guide than your genetic family or those who look like you of course nothing is completely black and white, but the more the universe begins to resemble you in the sense of a follower, the more you have fallen, the more you have lost, but it can be returned, for the entire universe to follow you is death but there is life to death and a life after death, everything is infinite, there is always an endless amount to gain or to lose, and boundless peace coming from neutrality, and ascending and ascending ever complexifying dualities, true flight comes from finding the place where duality is immediately made whole -
fuck you and your attacks confucist scum! a band of beings with sharpened blades were descending upon a tree at the edge of the wood where the amazing Lisa Rosdonen sat in deep meditation, the commotion caught her attention and she looked up, just as the man in front raised his acts she shouted from the brush, "DONT CUT DOWN THAT TREE!" (a small voice followed from an unknown source 'plant hemp instead and use the versatile stalks as wood!') the man put down the ax gently, and the band was enlightened.
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the wise know that true history is non linear, when we retell it in the present it also has an effect on time representing a ripple! all we have is now, constantly we are creating entirely new universes that have always existed. all of them are rippling together in an infinite sea, this is wytipodation
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ancient rainbows when we search for you we see how they try to anchor you down and play a role but you never were that we set the rainbow free free beyond our conceptions all the rainbows free everywhere in every direction no one can own you, you are the planet you are the earth, be as you will be cease the roles of archetypse cease and just be, because nothing exists we here you deep, we know when we are free you we will be free we don't want to trod you underfoot we've found the bridges of rainbows are only oil puddles which make us sick you should be in the sky no one knows where you came, no one knows where you're going just where the wind and light takes ye like a taoist wanderer here you teach us through paradox but we see the truth we are the wanderers connected by our love of all a rainbow is the tao so we can understand ourselves a rainbow cannot be told nothing can be owned you only seem to touch the ground wherever you go is heaven, because everything is there in harmony, you show us the mystery of this world kind dragon like a water bong that burns no herb in the sunlight, and gets you high on life theres so many ways to arrive at the same place everything is the tree of life you are the gift of the downtrodden that they would know the true wealth you are the salmon of knowledge swimming upstream in riddle you are the trail of the heroes still alive in modern times, the tribes travelling you are the trail of the tears of joy through the heavens you are the fractal spirit in wanti you are the somaness, that makes all peoples and beings one you are the elements you are the homeskillet and the boga you are the mist we see we see you are the mist erie! thats why we're all irish the universe was created in ireland! and thats the secret of the gaelic language!
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*destroys all corporations*
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*randomly turns you into a tree*
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sell out. this seems like it dishonors lau tzus spirit but i guess thats the point.. still the tao goes on and on, nothing really exists or makes a difference