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Discussion about those seekers of truth who develop an arrogance of the ego that they are, and their practice is superior than others. The same can be said for those who become self identified with the path, dressing in elaborate clothes, taking elaborate names, when all that is happening is the ego is changing roles to something else. This is a pitfall and should be watched for.

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Thank you for your kind words. I was inactive for many years but have been drawn back to get some perspective on a few things.

How does one twitch their vagus nerve?

I think I would have a hard time, as sometimes inner or outer for me it's the same voice.

I admit, I am and have been guilty of spiritual arrogance.

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The nuns with wings on their head was my favourite!

Wondering if anyone would enjoy sharing their alien encounters during the dream state here? I had an encounter with telepathic Nordic like humanoids who called themselves the blues. What was peculiar about the encounter was they were giving certain problem solving exercises and then observing, almost like scientists would design an experiment and record the results. I was not meant to see them and they were somewhat surprised when I firstly discovered their presence watching and then was able to interact with them. Conversation was telepathic. They could hear my thoughts and I could hear theirs. My visual picture of what they looked like was an energetic interpretation through my mind. At no stage did I feel any ill intent or malice on their behalf. I actually felt that they had a genuine caring attitude towards humans. I felt that they were many times more advanced than us. I ended the dream on their ship. The interior reminded me of a hotel with no windows. I understood the intelligence gathering of human beings for them was more of a commercial agreement with whom shall remain a mystery. I tried searching for anyone else who had encounter beings that called themselves the blues but haven't found anything yet. I hope others can share their experiences no matter how weird. After all it was only a dream but an extremely vivid one at that.

My personal practice is not specifically training for skills/abilities but I do see them as a by-product of advancement along the path.

Being heavily self identified with the in question practice can lead to seeing those deviating from the practice to be an assault on the sense of self. It is a massive attack to their own ego and they defend themselves like one would an attacker coming to steal something from them. If they were not heavily self identified with the practice they would not care.

How does one at a glance see energy and upper mental bodies? Is this some type of ESP almost everyone does not have?

Pray to Guru Rinpoché, then settle within the state of your mind and the guru’s mind inseparable. In the relaxed openness of your mind’s uncontrived state of naturalness, Do not stop, cultivate, accept, or reject thoughts. Relax without grasping; whatever arises will be self-liberated. This is the ultimate guru. Abide in that natural state! It is not a new attainment; it has never been separate from you. Although not separate, you did not recognize it, which is delusion. Now there is already endless delusion So whatever thoughts arise, look directly at their essence. When you look, you will not see it; cast the searcher aside. The place where you cast it is dharmakaya’s essential nature, all-pervasive emptiness. In that place, where can you go or stay? Understand this, realize its meaning, and sustain it in practice. The result of this practice is to be without hope or fear. Having attained confidence in this has made this old man satisfied. Dudjom Rinpoche Heart Advice in Wisdom Nectar

Thank you Steve, yes from the precious treasury of the way of abiding. https://ia601205.us.archive.org/2/items/Longchenpa-ThePreciousTreasuryOfTheWayOfAbiding/Longchenpa.PreciousTreasuryOfTheWayOfAbiding_text.pdf

I'm glad you got the help you needed.

There are many modes in which the truth can be spoken. Osho was quite eccentric but nonetheless I believe he spoke his truth. I have enjoyed listening to oshos teachings and don't consider him to be a fake master. Master, being the ability to point those to their true minds nature.

YESHE LAMA / 1)9 From the Heart Essence of the Vast Expanse of the Great Perfection, A Practice Manual for the Stages of the Path of the Original Protector ...the extent of accomplishment recognized in the dream state is as follows. Ic states in the Secret Sound Tantra :* For the supreme, [dreams] will cease; for the middling, [dreams] will be lucid; and for the inferior, [dreams] will be trans- formed. Thus, for all of those with keen faculties and enthusiasm, the connec- tion with karma and habits will be severed. [171] An indication that bud- dhahood will occur in that very lifetime is when dreams are purified in the dharmakaya and sleep arises as clear light. For the middling, dreams become lucid and, through familiarity with dream transformation, bud- dhahood will occur in the bardo. For the inferior, the continuum of nega- tive habits in the dream state is severed and, by experiencing only positive dreams, rebirth will be taken in the realm of the natural nirmanakaya. Its interesting in the book Yeshe Lama, it states above those who have supreme accomplishment, will not dream. Those in the middle, their dreams will be lucid and those of the inferior, their dreams will be transformed into only positive dreams. In relation to my original post, I can separate my dreams into different categories. Ordinary dreams that are easily forgettable that can be either bad or good dreams or neither bad nor good, and supercharged extremely vibrant dreams that are not easily forgettable that can also be either bad or good or neither bad nor good. Myself personally, I have the supercharged extremely vibrant dreams only once every few years, and the rest are ordinary. When I do have a supercharged dream I make sure to examine it and normally it can provide me with some type of insight or enjoyment. The dream in my original post was my latest supercharged dreams. Many months have past since the original dream and I can still recount and remember aspects and faces from the dream. I have always wondered if these supercharged dreams were helped along by another helping being that somehow shared their energy with me to allow me to experience these vibrant dream experiences. Almost like they raise me up to a higher level. Since I have started my meditation practice years ago it is rare for me to have an ordinary dream that is bad, although they do still happen. I am thankful in this aspect but I am not yet a lucid dreamer. Thank you for everyone's replies, study about dreams and the unconscious fascinates me. I have enjoyed reading all the comments.