gatito

Hey TI I was trying to point in this sort of direction: - http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/atmananda/atmananda1.htm g

Q.E.D. http://www.aypsite.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11511

Does AYP give bad kundalini advice? Yes. That was my experience. And, from what I remember, I was told that I needed to work out a solution for a kundalini problem for myself by trial and error. I also realised (again rather rather belatedly ) that there's a complete lack of understanding about self-inquiry, which (according to AYP teachings) is the essential ingredient necessary to complete the AYP "path". When I tried to "promote" Direct Path self-inquiry, I was banned by "yogani" personally. Furthermore, I was unable to locate anyone (including "yogani") who had actually attained liberation. So, as far as I can see, AYP is an experiment in progress and if you want to volunteer as one of the Guinea pig s - good luck to you.

Hi TI Each to their own and, although it's not for me, I feel that I've met many friends through AYP, including you. So, perhaps Om Shanti is a good note to end this thread on, unless you'd like to grab a beer sometime? With Love gatito

Hey! TI! I'm really glad that you're still around. I'm happy to pick up on some of your points if we can agree some ground rules first. I went to AYP to learn something and, as far as I'm concerned, we've parted amicably. I don't want to lose you as a friend and I don't want to lose any of the friendships that I have at AYP, despite the fact that I no longer use or advocate the use of any part of the AYP system myself. I also believe that there are better approaches. Is that OK with you? With Love gatito

Hi Tibetan Ice I was really sorry to read about what happened to you in AYP I was banned by yogani myself because I included the words "intrinsically dangerous" in one of my posts and because I was trying to promote alternatives to AYP. I can't access my posts either to add more information in the light of my experience of using the system, so I can empathise with you on that one. I tried to discuss this and resolve it amicably internally with yogani himself but sadly, he was too busy to answer any of my emails. I'd love to hear from him so that we can work out any residual issues amicably and privately, if indeed there are any. Luckily, I managed to agree with one of the contacts on the AYP contact page that all my posts should be marked "Banned" and that proper warnings would be posted on the AYP site in case anyone else wants to experiment with this system. I can only hope that yogani gets around to doing that sometime soon but I can't access the Support Forums from this IP address now to check myself. If anyone is holding a grudge against me or disagrees with the factual accuracy or the wording of this post, I'd be very happy to discuss this with them privately and come to a reasonable compromise. It's much better than having a public disagreement. Finally, I'd like to give the many friends that I made during my brief stay at AYP my very best wishes. Luckily, it's taken less than 24 hours to work through this, so happily no harm's done. Hopefully, that's the end of this thread and we can discuss something more useful. Thank you to Taobums for your hospitality.

Hello fellow "Bums" Someone pointed me to an interesting thread on this forum recently and I've found myself here a few times in the past for stuff that's difficult to find elsewhere. Very civilised, mutually respectful conversations the norm. Great Forum. gatito

Namaste Elliot and thank you for your welcome.