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Everything posted by gatito
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Bernadette Roberts: Christian Contemplative View On Buddhism
gatito replied to Simple_Jack's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Reported (repeated ad hominem - badgering) -
Bernadette Roberts: Christian Contemplative View On Buddhism
gatito replied to Simple_Jack's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Reported, as it's an ad hominem -
Bernadette Roberts: Christian Contemplative View On Buddhism
gatito replied to Simple_Jack's topic in Buddhist Discussion
By the way, one of the many places that you'll find clear reference to nonduality and Consciousness in Buddhism is in the Kunjed Gyalpo http://www.amazon.com/The-Supreme-Source-Fundamental-Dzogchen/dp/1559391200 ://www.amazon.com/The-Supreme-Source-Fundamental-Dzogchen/dp/1559391200 -
Bernadette Roberts: Christian Contemplative View On Buddhism
gatito replied to Simple_Jack's topic in Buddhist Discussion
Ok, I'll give it a go and we'll see what happens Let's take this classic example of copy and paste dogma: - Bump. Interestingly, Buddhism is, in fact, nondual, although I'd agree that there's no such thing as a nondual "state" (in either Buddhisnm or in Advaita Vedanta). The problem is that dependent origination and anatta are very advanced teachings that have turned into misunderstood dogma for the overwhelming majority of Buddhists - for whom Buddhism is merley a set of beliefs rather direct knowledge. By adopting these advanced teaching far too early (merely as part of a misunderstood belief system) they actually act as an absolute barrier to their understanding and to their progress with the Buddhist system. This barrier can only be removed by dropping their dogma and examining their own direct experience - whereupon, freedom will begin to be uncovered. Of course, this is not going to happen when someone has invested everything that they have in a set of incorrect beliefs. It's difficult enough to appproach the Truth with what most people would describe as an open mind, let alone a mind that is further overlaid by a further set of false beliefs, which cannot actually be understood by the mind because they're nondual teachings. Perhaps some of those reading this can see the Catch 22? Other major barriers for most Buddhists that I've noticed are a belief in the actual existence of mind and a failure to examine and define Consciousness/Awareness clearly for themselves. -
Yes. I spent some time learning from Sifu Lam Kam Chuen. On one occasion he said to us, "You do it wrong - in ten year everything fall down" (sic) I had a strong sense that "everything fall down" was a rather unpleasant experience that should be avoided.
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That would be nirvikalpa samadhi
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That was a good move - for a change
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Incorrect Nonsense
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Now that makes sense "Burn the heretics!" eh?
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Incorrect
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I couldn't care less either way
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Good to hear that I'm sure that the terrible twins won't like it though
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Attention seeker Ignored
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Consider yoursef ignored
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You know quite a lot in knowing that the Path does swallow itself up and disappears like the smile on the face of the Cheshire cat kitten
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Spot on!! Say "Hi" from me and "thanks" when you see him next time please
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Incorrect as usual and resorting to abuse as usual, which is why I no longer take either of you seriously.
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My remarks on this thread are due mainly to my experiences of and with the pair of you over a protracted period of time
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That's a good example of why I can't be bothered to discuss anything with either of you seriousy now (or ever again)
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None of your business
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Incorrect
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In your opinion Guess what conclusions I draw from that
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The Direct Path is taught in person. John Levy is very specific about that
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I've noticed you habitually jump to usualy incorrect conclusions due to lack of evidence
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The first two sentences are not incorrect.