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Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Thanks for the clarification: it was a serious question and, incidentally, if you'd replied in the affirmative, I wouldn't have considered it "petty". Anyway, here's a Direct Path perspective of Nama Rupa Sat Chit Ananda, Parts 1 and 2:-

Dealt with that here: - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32463-neoadvaita-has-its-flaws/?p=500358 (://thetaobums.com/topic/32463-neoadvaita-has-its-flaws/?p=500358)

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

I'm not clear what point you're trying to make here. Is it that your viewpoint is right and everything else is wrong?

Unfortunately, this sort of excision leaves the thread completely unintelligible. Therefore immediately following this excision I deleted all my posts preceding the quote above in this public area, while leaving the posts that were removed intact and after some reflection, I've now decided to replace all my blank posts here with this covering note. If you're reading this as a guest and you want to read the posts that were excised, you will need to join the Taobums forum and login in order to to follow the link and read them, so that you can make up your own mind about to whom the criteria of "swear(ing) a lot while putting down teachers and paths, or just plain talk about random other stuff" apply. I also started this thread here in an attempt to deal with this problem of "splitting and pitting" (as it is refered to here) : - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ ://thetaobums.com/topic/32826-pittingsplitting/ Finally, there quite a detailed discussion about Neoadvaita by James Swartz here, which probably covers all the major points: - http://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/%284%29%20Neo-Advaita.pdf ://www.shiningworld.com/top/images/stories/pub-pdfs/Articles/(4) Neo-Advaita.pdf

Thanks for indulging me Scotty I've no idea because I haven't got the inclination to plough through 13 pages of "stuff". Sorry. However, you could read John Levy and Krishna Menon if you want to try to shoehorn Direct Path Advaita into Buddhism or vice-versa. I don't believe it will work though = and that's not because I think that there's any exclusivity in Direct Path Advaita, as opposed to Buddhism or any other valid system, but that they are different paths that could be be thought of as different languages. If anyone here is truly bilingual, they'll confirm that it's the common experience of those who are that it's impossible to translate accurately from one language to another: the world appears to be subtly different according to the language in which you think.

Also having read some of the supposedly "restricted" writings, I just found it an incredibly complex belief system with no basis in experimentally verifiable reality, so I question whether it ever actually "worked" (whatever that actually means in real terms).

A bit too strongly worded perhaps? However, I do take your point and perhaps this can now return to topic?

Absolutely correct, that's why I'd strongly advise anyone to steer clear of all belief systems and to make the exploratory and experimentally-verifiable investigation into the true nature of Consciousness for themselves - as the Buddha apparently strongly advised. Yes, as I said, I spent day at Lerab Ling AND made several visits to a temple in England, which were the basis for my observations and conclusions.

How could anyone fail to recognise this as anything but a scholarly, erudite, and appropriately-worded rebuttal?

~~~Ad hominem~~~ ~~~Ad hominem~~~ Nothing "vague" about it - it's very specific and certainly, several other people here seem to understand the point(s) clearly. You are, in fact, only demonstrating the point that some of these followers are simply brainwashed into undiscriminating adulation. Also, I don't follow anyone myself - see my tips for finding a Teacher in my signature Furthermore, consider that I've also made it clear that I'm completely against charging for the teaching of Advaita - so, name one "internet neoadvaitin" who doesn't charge for their teachings. (Hope that you can follow the logic here.)

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Spending a day at Lerab Ling temple in France and several visits to a centre in England and seeing things that are entirely consistent with this: - http://thetaobums.com/topic/32739-yidams-in-vajrayana/?p=500206 (thetaobums.com/topic/32739-yidams-in-vajrayana/?p=500206)

That resonates very closely with my own experiences of Tibetan Buddhism, which, frankly, I found deeply shocking.

That's a strange kind of military training, allowing emotional entanglements to compromise the mission objective (i.e freedom) . In other words, where's the freedom in escaping to freedom and stil being tied to your captor(s) by emotional needs for revenge?

Actually, it was a compassionate response up until the point where revenge muddied the waters

Exactly