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Hey.....and now have severe back and neck pain. Left foot and left pinky finger even. Doctor said my spine is badly injured. I will do qigong again to try and fix. Anyone have any advice? Waking up each day is a painful experience at times.

First off.....greetings everyone...i am a 30-year-old from the US living in Taiwan. I have meditated to hypnosis and binaural beats for about 5 years now nightly to help fall asleep or just to meditate. I recently took up kungfu about 3 months ago under an instructor who has studied for over 18 years here under his master who has studied for over 40 years. Part of the kungfu is daily qigong practice. I have some questions about qigong sensations after practice..i just started the qigong practice last week. Sometimes after practice i feel great but this past Saturday I practiced for about 45 minutes or so and felt like i was a little high in a bad way all day long and even kind of negative the folowing day...like my mind was thinking wayyy too much about everything like an obsessive circle and things looked a little depersonalized...like everything felt uncomfortable and things looked a little distorted. These feelings acre me as I recently quit a prescription medication knows as a benzo...a very powerful drug that messes up brain and gaba receptors up...the things in your brain that make you feel good....i quit this drug by slowly tapering down off it after daily usage for a year just 4 months ago and still feel weak from it...like i get panicky feeling and that horrible paranouid feeling like after you smoked too much weed or something and even recently i had this feeling like everyhting was breaking...my mind...felt like i was going crazy this was from a bad a reaction to a medication a doctor hear recently gave me....i take no meds on a regular basis here...just tried it for sleep one night. Anyways...my goal with kungfu and qigong is to simply feel normal and mentally healthy once again....is qigong safe for me to practice in my current situation or should i wait until my body and brain recover more from the meds that i were on? Many thanks for your insight......also, I practice the horse stance everyday just once a day which is supposed to cultivate chi as well and can feel it pulling me down sometimes and my sleep has improved greatly from it......but i also have strange sensations after doing it from time to time.

Was just wondering how many of you practice chinese traditinal martial arts along with your qigong? I have had some teachers...not my teacher....but others.... tell me that qigong shouldn't be practiced unless you have been doing a CMA for at least a year or qigong will be virtually useless.....and i disagree with this....i just wanted to get others opinions...because to me it seems both are linked but qigong is also separate at the same time if that makes any sense.

Hey everyone...i was having a lot of problems with qigong earlier...i just wanted to say that with a lot of help from Clarity, who is a poster on here, I have improved greatly.....he did some energetic work on me and cleared up a lot of blocks that I had....i wasn't sure what to think at first, but each time he cleared these blocks, i felt a hiuge difference...i am now doing qigong 5 times a week with minimal issues as opposed to before i could only do it 2 times a week and felt drugged up the whole time and sluggish with a lot of brain fog and tra[pped in my heads feeling....because of blocks.according to Clarity.....but if any of you are having similar issues...I would highly recommend him. And he did all this for free....amazing. I was even starting to believe qigong was evil before he helped me....but now i feel rejuvenizzed and fresh after qigong practice....as long as i don't practice my longfist form too much out in this hot summer heat that is before my qigong....but many thanks to clarity.

I just want to know if there are others out there like me. My nervous system gets really sensitive after qigong practice and lasts for 2 days usually....but it always feels good during practice...i have OCD and that problem becomes huge after qigong think horrible thoughts that make me feel horrible in general....my kungfu instructor keeps telling me to ignore it and its part pf the process but at the same time he tells me he never had any of these feelings... i have been doing it for 3 months and now only do it once or twice a week because of the sickness also feel extreme brain fog, spacey headed feeling and just hporrible like i am clogged up everywhere.....but i can also feel good stuff like everything around me is moving in slow motion and i am hyper alert of every little detail...and my sleep problem has improved hence why i havent quit it altogether but the OCD feeling is overqwhelming at times...horrible horrible thoughts that i am too ashamed of to share on this forum.......i used to be addicted to a strong beno medication and my neverous system is still weak because of that and drinking sometimes on the weekends always knocks me back down a few pegs on progress, so i keep telling myself this is my problem and qigong is not the problem,,,,but at the same time i have doubts... does anyone else feel mentally and emotionally sick after qigong practice??? I practice a form where you hold your arms and hands out infront of your dantien in a circle and raise them up to out in front of your chin while breathing in and imaging a ball of blue energy resting in my palms connected to my breathe like a pulley system and then palms facing down and move arms and hands down toward the dantien while breathing out and still imagining the pulley system connected to the ball of energy....it feels great while i am doing it...but afterwards it feels too powerful for my body to contain....i do this for only 30-40 mins once a day twice a week....i was doing it successfully 5 timnes a week and had reached a plateu where i felt great everyday after doing it but then began drinking a lot on the weekends and my nervous system went back to helll....so i wonder if the problem is the qigong or drin king on the qweekends....its difficult to tell ...

I just drink once on the weekends...how is that being an alcoholic? Anyways....I am conducting the no drinking experiment so I can know once and for all......haven't drank in 11 days and want to see that if in a month and a half or 2 months of no drinking if I improve or not. Once i improve...i don't want to drink ever again...i am tired of this vicious cycle....feel like a hamster running on a wheel. Heavy Kungfu practice with lot's of sweating also makes me feel bad each day....but nothing like when the qigong is added on top of it. And I do self accupuncture using my hands on the areas 3 inches below the wrists and rub my ears....any key places i need? Okay, i just clicked on the liver channel link...will buy once of those massage thingies...they are everywhere here at the night markets and shops.

I do my qigong right after and/or between my kungfu practice...so there is a lot of moving and squatting down going on.......yeah...that liver line is helpful..thanks....i also get 2 hour traditional full body Thai massages every week......here in Taiwan they are cheap. And sometimes a full body Chinese massage.....i guess drinking has to be the main culprit.........guess i need to stop....but even my kungfu instructor said he drinks a bit on the weekends and said there should be nothing wrong with it....of course he doesnt know i used to be an alcoholic and then hooked on sleep meds....well, he knows the sleep meds part....i didn't drink this past weekend and don't plan on anytime soon...i have to try and advance my qigong practice to restore my body and nervous system to it's original state.

Please don't take offense to my concerns. I have been doing qigong as part of kungfu practice for about 2-3 months. Before i did this, i had a clear head but minor sleep trouble.....however, lately i have felt huge feelings of lust and have even went on drinking binges to nightclubs looking for random sex and have just felt dirty lately in general and even cheated on my GF....also i stopped qigong for the last week and a half because i was feeling high and disconected after practice in a very bad way......even though my sleep has improved...probably from just breathing deeper now than anything else. I am very very suspicious of Qigong's true nature now. Why would something supposedly so pure bring out these incredible feelings of lust and frustration that i didn't have at all before practicing it? I did some searching on the web and came across this link. He is a hardcore christian but presents an interesting challenge to qigong based on his expereince and a few deviations and a few people who do it also chime in with their expereinces.....what do you guys think??? I am very scared to continue my qigong practice but realie its great potential for health benefits.....however, i don't care for being closer to the universe and such i just want to be a normal mentally and physically healthy person. And i know alot of you will probably bash the overly religous side of this blog.....based on my limited experience there seems to be a potential darkness associated with qigong. http://dontaskthatinchurch.blogspot.com/2010/09/qigong-good-bad-or-ugly.html

Hello Matt, be glad that you are only 24......as you age alcoholism literally destroys your nervous system and the the real fun starts with symptoms such as panic attacks and insomnia and generally feeling like you are losing your mind and then using stuff like benzos...powerful sedatives that further destroy your nervous system in order to simply feel normal. Please take this advice...stop now and you will consider yourself lucky for never having to go through the worst of it....what I would give if I could take a time machine back to when i was 24 and stop. I am nearly 31 years old...my nervous system went haywire about 3 years ago after years of heavy drinking and it hit me like a brick wall...I couldn't sleep for months...panic attacks that made me wish for death.....then i found benzos to compensate....big mistake...have been withdrawing for almost a year now off of them....they are worst then the alcohol......please just stop now while your body is still healthy...because trust me, the worst is yet to come...if you think prison is bad...that is nothing compared to what I am warning you about...I have experienced both....so I know. So please stop out of fear if nothing else. I have taken up Kungfu after withdrawing....it has been tough because my nervous system is still weak...but i would recommend it...gives you a tangible goal and self discipline. Has been a life changer for me...though I still struggle with the qigong part of it because of my weak nervous system...but it makes me feel better as long as i don't screw up and decide to drink, which condradicts it.

Each night to help me sleep, I lay down on my back and listen to a sleep hypnosis track for about an hour before I sleep. This is meditation because i only focus on the track with no thinking. Lately, though, I have been feeling a sort of pressure in my head when i get deep into the track and on the verge of sleep. Will this cause too much chi to go to my head? Can this be dangerous? I don't want any chi in my head ideally. Oh yeah, forgot to mention that I have been doing this every night for about a year now.

But sometimes it is the only thing that allows me to sleep.......i am not worried about becoming dependent on it because o iused to be dependednt on strong sleep medications that were hell to come off of...so i will take this dependency over that dependency any day......i am just worried about the chi aspect of it.

Muscle tone is not the reason it builds up chi....if that were true weight lifting would cultivate chi. The last time i practiced qigong was last Saturday and i have had a really bad flu like illness this week with a fever, severe diaareah and yesterday felt a little out of my mind....i could feel energy vibrating through my body everywhere....i had a good 2 hour thai massage before the illness began....my theory is my chi was stuck or was breaking through somewhere in my body and the massage helped release a lot of it and it caused this healing crisis....or mayb e its just the flu...but yesterday along with my flu sysmptoms i felt the same feeling throughout my boday that i experience during a strong qigong session at times...when will my healing crisis stop?

From everything I have heard, the horse stance and other stances cultivate chi. I always feel energized from stance work unless i went at it too hard under the hot sun of course. I only slept about 2 hours last night so I did just 15 minutes of qigong this morning to try and replenish some energy/ I hope none of it gets stuck in my head. I seem to have a bad problem about that...did my brush downs and focused on dantien...also pretend my feet are weighted when i walk to help ground energy. I just want to know if anyone else here felt sick often the first few months of their qigong practice.

I have another question for those familiar with kungfu.......how much chi does regular kungfu practices build up? Because I love the stance work, especially horse, it makes my legs feel so strong and i feel low to the ground afterwards...if I do kungfu 5 days a week and soft qigong only once a week....is this is pretty tame as far as chi building goes? Many thanks for any input.

I did brush down........was really really sick feeling last night and even had to take my old meds that i worked so hard to get off of....for whatever reason, it must be too soon for me at this point. I did some research and found out that Kungfu is basically a hard form of qigong in itself and will get you the same result in the end just slower and many sifus don't teach their students soft qigong until 2 years later.....i will just practice kungfu itself and save qigong for later when my nervous system is a lot stronger. Thanks for all the ideas guys. But the3 ones telling me to listen to myself make the most sense. Something is just not right at this point in time. So I will take it slow and incorporate soft qigong maybe just one day a week at first until i get a lot stronger feeling.

Practiced today and had a really strong feeling session.....felt like bliss...but now about 2 hours later...I feel tapped in my head...feel high and my face has turned beet red like a tomato......why do I keep having these weird symptoms? Felt perfectly normal before my practice.

I am 30 years old. I didn't seek out qigong...it is part of my kungfu training. What do you mean pre-disposed in life? Pre-disposed for what?

I used to have a big sleep problem....the meditation helps me sleep greatly..don't think i can stop until qigong fixes my sleep problem more. I do know that i am extremely sensitive to qigong for some reason. My body starts shaking sometimes when i do it and i can feel the energy very well....almost feels like a mild full body orgasm at times. And when i imagine balls of energy over hands when i do the motion above my head i can feel them massaging my aura and body if that makes any sense...almost like i am taking a bath in energy. My instructor told me yesterday that he can tell that i feel the energy very well and it's unusual for a beginner. Also, sometimes after i do it, everything seems to move in slow motion.......maybe because i am sensitive to it because i used to meditate a lot and practice astral projection and get spontaneous OBEs sometimes...maybe that has something to do with it....i dunno. But it seems like whatever big block there was has gotten better....because i am not feeling horrible after practice anymore and am feeling good although kungfu practice yesterday was a little too intense...lost too much sweat and energy in the heat here. Is it bad to practice qigong when you are already drenched in sweat from physical activity??? Because this is how i always practice due to it being right after my kungfu training.

Ok, will try tomorrow. Just finished another qigong session with stances before and another short 2 minute horse stance after to help the chi sink. I lay down and meditate to a sleep inducing hypnosis track every night before i got to bed....does that count as sitting meditation? Will try to sit in the park tomorrow after i practice when i have more time...today i have to go to work soon. Also, why does qigong make you sweat so much??? The actions seem effortless.

Yesterday i had an easy session....usually I do the horse stance in the middle of my kungfu training and then do qigong after a lot of stance training and form training......so do you mean do the sitting meditation before qigong and right after kungfu? Or just after my stance training? Horse stance is just one part of my stance training. Many thanks for your insight. Oh, and right now, I feel like my energy is flowing well. Maybe I just needed some time off.

I wouldn't view it as giving up. Giving up is when something is too difficult to continue. My kungfu practice is much much more difficult and rigorous than qigong....qigong always feels good when i am doing it......but feels weird afterwards sometimes....i just want to make sure i am not becoming a bad person. I have a big responsibility to my family. I don't think i will ever quit. I think the chinese doctor just messed with my energetic system there for a while and my chi was trapped in my head....terrible feeling. Was playing a lot of mind games with me. I practiced earlier today and felt great the entire day. Every thing seems to be in slow motion as in i can process things in more acute detail......and i have a ton of energy and still feel euphoric all over.

I just got finished practicing qigong......and did the horse stance for 3 minutes before hand and another kungfu stance for a few minutes to help my chi stay low before hand. I did my 4 basic qigong technigues and the 3rd and 4th ones felt very powerful....very euphoric and a tickling sensation deep inside my body which is still present as I type this and my body was even trembling euphorically during those last two sets....also i did my qigong in an airconditioned room that was cool with only a kungfu t shirt on and was pouring down sweat the entire time. Right now i feel very good.......hopefully this feeling will continue as the energy settles down.. also to close the set i stood solemnloy for about 5 minutes imagining my feet and dantien connected with giant roots deep into the ground and did the brushdown for like 3 mins that the above poster recommended......i hope i continue feeling good because it really is a great feeling when it's good. I feel like i just replenshed in 40 minutes or so of practice all the energy that i drained out of myself this weekend from drinking beer.

I do the brush down every time for 5 minutes and also stand still for 5 minutes with my hands on my dantien....I am going to try today again....honestly, I never felt any ill effects until that doctor put needles in my head....he opened something up that caused a lit of it to go to my head or something... I know this is true....its just too much to be a coincidence...

Then how long should I wait after drinking to practice again??? Like how many days??? I have heard that the horse stance or many is a great way to sink chi ..that is a regular part of my training...will do that for a few days and then add qigong to it.