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Of a Nation... The reason I brought up Fascism was mostly because of its concept of Autarky Autarky is the quality of being self-sufficient. So a fully self sufficient / self sustaining Nation + With self sufficient / self sustaining individuals within such a nation. + I believe that all large infrastructure works; transport, energy, water, BANKS should be completely owned and controlled by the people. With the notion of people being self sustaining... I imagine energy and water would become household / off the grid. I think this is a good idea for the individual, the collective + the environment.

The above was written by homosexuals. Doesn't harm anyone? Perhaps you should read these before making such misinformed claims... in terms of evidence. I'll post again... I once supported such "liberal" views, I once supported gay marriage... then I realized I actually knew nothing about the lifestyle... what was it that I was supporting? So I did some research. Also take note... I live with 2 lesbians, there is no such thing as hate just 1 disagreement about a CHOICE... Not everyone agrees about everything... no need to say it really? haha The topic was raised once very calming, they understand my position... I understand theirs... and that was that... everything is good. Never mentioned again. You can desist with childish antics... This is about a choice... People are able to make better choices when they are informed... I am simply here to dispel ignorance... If after reading the below you still wish to participate in such behaviours that is your choice... and I respect that. What I don't respect is people trying to hide the facts... and in so doing causing unnecessary harm. This is called SEXUAL EDUCATION. The Negative Health Effects of Homosexuality + Heterosexual relationships are also mention in one of these links regarding the practice of anal sex. If some of you practice such... if you really love your partner you will educate yourself and your partner about such things. If after reading...both of you still wish to practice such things... that is your choice. http://www.lifesiten...r-vaccinations/ http://www.narth.com...ealthrisks.html http://www.allaboutl...xual-health.htm http://www.jettandja...-homosexuality/ http://factsaboutyou...xual-lifestyle/ http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=Is01B1 http://www.british-i...ay marriage.htm http://www.zenit.org...sexual-behavior

Maybe a different thread? What is ones ideal form of governance?

England > Papal Rome > Greece > Egypt > Babylon > Sumeria "Royal" bloodline / including US presidents trace similar lineage as above ^ Vatican/ Jesuits/ Freemasons/ Jewish Mysticism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_creation_myth

I would say no... based on the Book of Enoch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch

Also... There is no Person V Person... just a behaviour people don't agree with... We need a better understanding of these things.

Here is a link to the original text. http://www.amazon.com/After-Ball-America-Conquer-Hatred/dp/0452264987

Did you read the texts through? How about... (the previous links are more detailed / scientific + stats % etc) Kirk & Madsen - Gays Generalizing on the Lifestyle http://seask.cotse.net/con-spiratio/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1216 ""Let´s look at gay behavior as defined by two gays, Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen Ph.D., authors of After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90´s (1989). In Chapter Six, they outline “ten categories of misbehavior,” drawn from their own experiences, wide reading and thousands of hours of conversation with hundreds of other gays. Their contention is that the gay lifestyle, not gay sexuality mind you, “is the pits.” They want gays to improve their image by addressing “what is wrong with a lot of gays.” (276) What follows are some highlights. As you read this, ask yourself if there is another human community, including the Mafia that could make these generalizations about itself. The authors say “a surprisingly high percentage” of pathological liars and con men are gay. This results from a natural habit of self-concealment, and leads to a stubborn self-deception about one´s own gayness and its implications. • They say gays tend to reject all forms of morality and value judgments. Gay morality boils down to “If it feels good, I´ll do it!” If a gay feels like seducing a trusted friend´s lover, he´ll do it, justifying it as an act of “sexual freedom” and the friend be damned. • They say gays suffer from a “narcissistic” personality disorder and they give this clinical description: “pathological self absorption, a need for constant attention and admiration, lack of empathy or concern for others, quickly bored, shallow, interested in fads, seductive, overemphasis on appearance, superficially charming, promiscuous, exploitative, preoccupied with remaining youthful, relationships alternate between over idealization and devaluation.” • As an example of this narcissism, the authors say “a very sizable proportion of gay men” who have been diagnosed HIV positive continue to have unprotected sex. • They say the majority of gays are extremely promiscuous and self-indulgent. They must continuously up the ante to achieve arousal. This begins with alcohol and drugs and includes such “forbidden” aspects of sex as wallowing in filth (fetishism and coprophilia) and sadomasochism, which involves violence. • They say many gays indulge in sex in public bathrooms and think it is antigay harassment when it is stopped. Many think they have a right to importune straight males, including children. • Many gays are “single minded sexual predators” fixated on youth and physical beauty alone. When it comes to the old or ugly, gays are “the real queerbashers.” Disillusioned themselves, they are cynical about love. • “Relationships between gay men don´t usually last very long.” They quickly tire of their partners and fall victim to temptation. The “cheating ratio of ‘married´ gay males, given enough time, approaches 100%.” • Even friendships are based on the sexual test and hard to sustain. Unattractive gay men find it nearly impossible to find a friend, let alone a lover. • The authors say gays tend to deny reality in various ways: wishful thinking, paranoia, illogic, emotionalism and embracing crackpot ideas. 2nd post from ^ Now, browse with me through another manifesto entitled After the Ball, How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the ‘90s (New York, Doubleday, 1989), by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen. The authors teach that sodomites should "inundate" straights (normal men and women) "in a continuous flood of gay-related advertising . . . ." (p. 149). The advertising will perpetrate something called "jamming," which they explain as follows: ". . . Thus propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths and a**holes-people who say not only ‘faggot’ but ‘nigger,’ ‘kike,’ and other shameful epithets-who are ‘not Christian.’ . . ." (p. 151) The goal is something they call "conversion," which is worse than old-fashioned subversion. " . . . Yet, ironically, by Conversion we actually mean something far more profoundly threatening to the American Way of Life . . . . We mean conversion of the average American’s emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media. . . ." (p. 153) (italics added) On the next page, they admit that those ads will be lies. ". . . But it makes no difference that the ads are lies; not to us, because we’re using them to ethically good effect . . . ." In other words, the end justifies the means, a hallowed commandment to all Marxists. The important thing, they say, is to keep talking, talking, talking, because the more they talk about sodomy, the more "tiresome" and normal it will seem. Finally, Kirk and Madsen say this: "[A]ctivists have concentrated their efforts on politics, meaning efforts to secure gay rights by conspiring with liberal elites within the legal and legislative systems." (Pp. 170-71) Remember, the word "conspiring" is theirs, not mine. Indeed: ". . . The goal here has been to forge a little entente or conspiracy with the power elite, to jump ahead of public sentiment or ignore it altogether." They speak of the successful use of "many executive orders (which side-step the democratic process) . . . ." (italics added) Now ask yourself, is all this a mere fantasy, or has it been happening? The point is that the present sodomite explosion is by no means haphazard; you are being subjected to a brilliantly orchestrated plan, the first gambit in which was the founding of the Mattachine Society by Reds. And remember that all of this comes from the connivers themselves, what our friends the lawyers call an "admission against interest." Finally, remember that according to the holiest writ of the sodomite movement, people are born homosexual. No choice is involved. Sodomites can no more blamed for sodomy than "straights" can be blamed for heterosexuality. But Kirk and Madsen say as follows on page 184 in a parenthesis: ". . . (We argue that, for all practical purposes, gays should be considered to have been born gay-even though sexual orientation, for most humans, seems to be the product of a complex interaction between innate predispositions and environmental factors during childhood and early adolescence.) To suggest in public that homosexuality might be chosen is to open the can of worms labeled ‘moral choice and sin’ and give the religious Intransigents a stick to beat us with. . . ."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKXspt459LE&list=WL4C774A4ADEA0897D

Yep

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Mesopotamia

Enoch/ Enmeduranki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En-men-dur-ana . http://www.aakkl.helsinki.fi/melammu/database/gen_html/a0001188.php Seers, Sybils and Sages in Hellenistic-Roman Judaism - page 342 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=PNpkPs0Q8doC&pg=PA342&lpg=PA342&dq=Enmeduranki+Enoch&source=bl&ots=Rs2V2-ZW9R&sig=uTVavk3BZePynJ5OvekuQ9liEgo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=LPERUe-OHIyYiAept4HwBQ&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Enmeduranki%20Enoch&f=false From Jewish Magic to Gnosticism - page 55 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=qv6rkmFNDcMC&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=Enmeduranki+Enoch&source=bl&ots=LtWSf0A_KP&sig=pR8MCO42mKLTy4VNhRjk157Q6Pc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W_IRUba-GsX5iwKJgoHACw&ved=0CF8Q6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=Enmeduranki%20Enoch&f=false

Enoch's "name signified in the Hebrew, INITIATE or INITIATOR. The legend of the columns, of granite and brass or bronze, erected by him, is probably symbolical. That of bronze, which survived the flood, is supposed to symbolize the mysteries, of which Masonry is the legitimate successor from the earliest times the custodian and depository of the great philosophical and religious truths, unknown to the world at large, and handed down from age to age by an unbroken current of tradition, embodied in symbols, emblems, and allegories." - General Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma http://www.think-aboutit.com/Spiritual/apocryphical_book_of_enoch.htm

Practical Kabbalah has its ancient roots in the "Thirteen Enochian Keys" of Enoch son of Qain, along with a highly eclectic admixture of material taken from Egyptian, Mesopotamian, and other non-Hebrew sources. The "Thirteen Enochian Keys" of Enoch son of Qain are reflected in such works as The Book of the Sacred Magic of Abramelin the Mage, the Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon, and mediaeval grimoires such as the Armadel, Goetia/Lemegeton, etc. The primary text of the mystical Kabbalah that appears to occupy a central place of importance in the hermetic Kabbalah is the Sefer Yetzirah (Book of Formation). The two most prominent contemporary schools of Practical or Hermetic Kabbalah are the Golden Dawn and the Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.). 3 http://freemasonry.b...s/kabbalah.html

The Kabbalah and Freemasonry Rooted in the ancient Egyptian Mysteries, three different versions of basically the same teachings can be identified by three different spellings: Kabbalah, Cabala and Qabalah... The Kabbalah is an essentially Jewish mystical or esoteric school. Although the Christian Church Fathers of the first century were demonstratably Kabbalists, mystical or gnostic elements within the Church largely disappeared within the first three centuries, only to reappear as a Christian Cabala during the Renaissance. A third, often hidden, stream of mystical Western philosophy absorbed many Egyptian, Jewish and Christian mystical elements and termed them the Qabalah.1 Christian writers such as Agrippa, in his De Occulta Philosophia Libri III (1533), or Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, and also the Roman Catholic Church, spell it "Cabala," the Latin spelling transferred over to English.... ... "Buxtorf (Lexicon of the Talmud) defines the Kabbalah to be a secret science, which treats in a mystical and enigmatical manner of things divine, angelical, theological, celestial, and metaphysical; the subjects being enveloped in striking symbols and secret modes of teaching. Much use is made of it in the advanced degrees, and entire Rites have been constructed on its principles. Hence it demands a place in any general work on Freemasonry."2 http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/kabbalah.html

Mystical doctrines in the Talmudic era In early rabbinic Judaism (the early centuries of the first millennium CE), the terms Ma'aseh Bereshit ("Works of Creation") and Ma'aseh Merkabah ("Works of the Divine Throne/Chariot") clearly indicate the Midrashic nature of these speculations; they are really based upon Genesis 1 and Book of Ezekiel 1:4–28; while the names Sitrei Torah (Hidden aspects of the Torah) (Talmud Hag. 13a) and Razei Torah (Torah secrets) (Ab. vi. 1) indicate their character as secret lore. An additional term also expanded Jewish esoteric knowledge, namely Chochmah Nistara (Hidden wisdom). Talmudic doctrine forbade the public teaching of esoteric doctrines and warned of their dangers. In the Mishnah (Hagigah 2:1), rabbis were warned to teach the mystical creation doctrines only to one student at a time.[20] To highlight the danger, in one Jewish aggadic ("legendary") anecdote, four prominent rabbis of the Mishnaic period (1st century CE) are said to have visited the Orchard (that is, Paradise, pardes, Hebrew: פרדס lit., orchard): "Four men entered pardes— Ben Azzai, Ben Zoma, Acher ( Elisha ben Abuyah), [21] and Akiba. Ben Azzai looked and died; Ben Zoma looked and went mad; Acher destroyed the plants; Akiba entered in peace and departed in peace." [22] In notable readings of this legend, only Rabbi Akiba was fit to handle the study of mystical doctrines. The Tosafot, medieval commentaries on the Talmud, say that the four sages "did not go up literally, but it appeared to them as if they went up".[23] On the other hand, Rabbi Louis Ginzberg, writes in the Jewish Encyclopedia (1901–1906) that the journey to paradise "is to be taken literally and not allegorically".[24] For further analysis, see The Four Who Entered Paradise. Maimonides interprets pardes as physics and not mysticism.[25][ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah#Mystical_doctrines_in_the_Talmudic_era Rabbi: The Torah is the Five books of Moses. When G-d taught Moshe the Torah at Mount Sinai, He didn't just give Moshe a written text (that wouldn't take 40 days!). Rather, G-d explained what everything meant. These explanations are what we call "the Oral Torah" or "the Mishna." The Jewish people preserved the Mishna as an unwritten teaching for about 1,400 years. After the destruction of the Second Temple, the leading Sage Rabbi Yehuda Hanassi realized a long exile was about to begin, and that if the Mishna wasn't written down it would become lost. He thus took the unprecedented step of writing it down. Not long after this, the leading Sages in Babylon again saw a decline in scholarship, so they wrote a more comprehensive explanation of the Mishna, called the Talmud. Kabbalah is also part of the Oral law. It is the traditional mystical understanding of the Torah. Kabbalah stresses the reasons and understanding of the commandments, and the cause of events described in the Torah. Kabbalah includes the understanding of the spiritual spheres in creation, and the rules and ways by which G-d administers the existence of the universe. http://ohr.edu/ask_db/ask_main.php/233/Q3/ http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/ Judaism + connections to Babylon is what is being shown... As we are attempting to link back to Sumeria to find the origins of these texts...

The United States has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world's incarcerated population.[9] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration Shocking...

I agree it is as you say... though I didn't mind so much. There is information in there that could lead one to some very interesting finds... Such as... Admiralty Law, as you mentioned If people watch and pursue these bits and pieces of information... lots of empowering stuff. Sadly most people are too lazy / want everything handed to them / spelled out to them A B C D You can lead a horse to water... I think you are pretty switched on though

Communism is what Fascism tried to prevent... These two have history... as you may know So a discussion on Fascism would entail at times discussion regarding Communism. All the Best

Science my friend, science. You wouldn't be discriminating against the religious now would you? That would be hypocrisy.

Don't worry about it... This information is only for the initiated

The Sumerian creation story and related.... still see no connections? You have no idea about Babylon from Jewish / Biblical texts? How about? Talmud Bavli (Babylonian Talmud) The Talmud Bavli consists of documents compiled over the period of Late Antiquity (3rd to 5th centuries).[9] During this time the most important of the Jewish centres in Mesopotamia, later known as Iraq, were Nehardea, Nisibis, Mahoza (just to the south of what is now Baghdad), Pumbeditha (a town more famous in our times as Fallujah), and the Sura Academy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Talmud_Bavli_.28Babylonian_Talmud.29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwj3gFNqc4k

The Communist dream... after all these years seems to have finally come to full fruition // To completely destroy the beacon of light, innovation, freedom that was the USA many, many years ago... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXg2WsNCrW4 I wish all true patriots the best of luck and deliverance from this wickedness...

Pharmakeia φαρμακεια is the Greek word for pharmacy, which is the practice and making of medication and vitamins It also refers to any substance used to poison someone, to prevent or treat disease (or, for that matter, to cause it), or to gain control of someone's behavior.[1][unreliable source?] Pharmakeia and its related word forms pharmakeus, pharmakon, pharmakos and pharmakoi are the words from which we get the modern English words pharmacy, pharmaceutics, pharmaceutical, pharmacist, pharmacopia, pharmacology, pharmaceuticalist and pharmaceuticalism. The modern transliteration of pharmakeia is pharmacia. Pharmakeia and its related forms appear several times in the New Testament, including the Epistle to the Galatians and the Book of Revelation. It is frequently translated as "witchcraft" or "sorcery".[2] Magical pharmacia substances or potions often bind someone under a spell by evocation with and without uttered word formulas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmakeia Sorceries/ Witchcraft (Pharmakeia) Sorcerers (pharmakeus) Pharmakeia... to gain control of someone's behavior! ^ ... need I say more?