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In terms of occult knowledge / that was burnt to the ground or bled out hundreds / thousands of years ago. Nothing here is secret, it was quite deliberately distributed to the masses... as it is all false knowledge / false light What we have today Christianity / religions of Abraham is nothing more than a perversion / misdirection of true knowledge + true power (+ psychic energy) that was destroyed long ago. Another thread asked for Pure Kabbalah. There is no such thing as Pure Kabblah as it was a rip off and perversion of ancient Egyptian practices / thought Just as much as the "Saints" are Christian The Celtic goddess Brigid and her namesake, Saint Brigid of Ireland, can lay claim to being the most complex, intriguing, widespread, timeless, and beloved of all legendary ladies. Brigid appears in many different guises, with numerous names, in many different European cultures. And she has survived the ravages of time much better than most. Known as Bride in Scotland, Brigandu in France, Ffaid in Wales, and Brigitania in England, the Irish goddess Brigid (usually pronounced Breet) is also known by the names Brighid, Bridget, Brid, and others. Her varying identities reflect her original image as a triple goddess, but with each of her three faces differing in their gifts. The Brigid first worshipped in ancient times was the daughter of the great Irish god Dagda, the 'Good Father'. She had two sisters who were also named Brigid. Taken together, they were called the 'Three Mothers', 'Three Sisters', or simply the Goddess Brigid. Unlike in Greek mythology where the Triple Goddess represented the three chronological stages of a woman's life (Maiden, Matron, and Crone), the Bridgets were all of the same generation and the distinctions between them were based on their domains of responsibility. > Brigid, the 'Fire of the Hearth', was the goddess of fertility, family, childbirth and healing.\ > Brigid, the '"Fire of the Forge', was like the Greek goddess Athena, a patroness of the crafts (especially weaving, embroidery, and metalsmithing), and a goddess who was concerned with justice and law and order. > Brigid, the 'Fire of Inspiration', was the muse of poetry, song history and the protector of all cultural learning. Much later, when the Christian church came to Ireland, they had little hope of making converts if they were to denounce the beloved goddess of the Druids as a wicked demon. So instead they made her a saint. Many of the ancient legends of the goddess were soon to become the deeds of the saint. http://www.goddessgi...dess-brigid.htm

Depends what history you're looking at. A comparison between Christianity now and then would be interesting / what would be considered christian? 2 well known examples are Christmas and Easter / both originally pagan celebrations What do rabbits, decorated eggs? and Santa have to do with Christianity? Complete perversion truth / history - Church of Lies Between 315 AD and the sixth century thousands of pagan believers were slain. Pagan services became punishable by death in 356 AD. The Christian Emperor, Theodosius, even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis. Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyers." In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. In the sixth century pagans were declared void of all rights. --K. Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, (Stuttgart 1962), p.466, 468-469 The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415. [DO19-25] Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30] Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223] Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235] 15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30] 16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde". Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [sH99, 225] In the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV] http://www.truthbekn...tm#.UMGqLneb90Q

Adopted is a funny word I wonder if it was anything similar to Iraqi liberation and other peaceful interventions like the inquisition? By your reasoning we should just put everything under African Philosophy... if one adopts current scientific thought? That being that we all originated from Africa. Oriental thought? The Tarim mummies are a series of mummies discovered in the Tarim Basin in present-day Xinjiang, China, which date from 1900 BCE to 200 CE.[1] Some of the mummies are frequently associated with the presence of the Indo-European Tocharians in the Tarim Basin,[2] although the evidence is not totally conclusive. Victor H. Mair's team made the conclusion that the mummies are basically Europoid and likely speakers of an Indo-European language.[3] DNA sequence data[9] shows that the mummies had Haplogroup R1a (Y-DNA) characteristic of western Eurasia in the area of East-Central Europe, Central Asia and Indus Valley.[10] A team of Chinese and American researchers working in Sweden tested DNA from 52 separate mummies, including the mummy denoted "Beauty of Loulan."[11] The features of the Loulan Beauty have been described as Nordic in appearance.[3] She was approximately 45 years old when she died.[3] By genetically mapping the mummies' origins, the researchers confirmed the theory that these mummies were of West Eurasian descent. http://en.wikipedia....i/Tarim_mummies Truth is stranger than history... sorry I mean fiction...

To be more clear in my opinion it would be like placing Native American spiritual practices / beliefs under "western...etc*" It makes little sense. Considering too that Native European spiritual practices / beliefs / people were viciously opposed "western" ways / attempts to assimilate them etc Yes, it is interesting Turtle

I don't think it belongs in either

For whichever reason I do not feel Runes belong in Hermetic and Occult Discussion

I think a show of force is necessary in some regards. Many peaceful people have be killed by others. I think meditation + MA is balance. Many peaceful people know deadly arts but never use them If India hadn't been as strong militarily perhaps there would have been no Buddhism no Brahmanism no Sikhism no Yoga no Zen etc? The earth has a spectrum of consciousness, from the most base to enlightened One needs to make allowances for that?

ahahahah... sorry

Why this association with the IRS?

Yes An authentic Taoist could potentially have weapons + dogs

IRS Headquarters, Maryland

I'll leave you all too it then

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This is a discussion on western symbolism We are trying to ascertain the meaning of this pyramid and eye and the intention of the people who use this symbol

Yes (extremely) violent video games are evil. An obsession with such things I would also find questionable. And the creators of such works highly questionable haha Emotional response? haha To human sacrifice? really? A lot of double speak regarding this fellow. I can't think of an instance where a follower of Buddhism went on a killing spree inspired by the works of the Buddha. The religions of Abraham + Satanism I don't believe are so opposed as believed haha As you outlined quite nicely. So my view are not christian centric There is some interesting Babylonian texts / history I was reading sometime ago Basically the Devil + Saviour were manifestations of one specific group. The ruling priestly cast had been overthrown and disposed of by the people... the people now self governing and free. This "elite" priestly cast over time devised another way to bring the people back under their control / devotion. Problem - Reaction - Solution As Orwell more of less said people will enjoy their servitude? / it is much easier to create a program where people are their own captors rather than have outright tyranny. I think the event had been material / orchestrated battle / they funded both the enemy and ally This adversary, of their creation laid waste to the lands / people that had disposed of them Until such time that the people had nothing left/ begging for a Saviour/ Hero to save them... Magically a Savior/ Hero figure appears just at the right time and conquers the great adversary The deeds of the hero spread throughout the land and people begin to praise / worship this hero and a cult following begins with the "priestly" leading the sheep. more of less some pretty extreme social engineering. Which side are you on? haha oh wait their is no difference...opps. Of course copy pasted from the internet...where else would..? Would you like me to quote the entire works of Crowley? so that is can read in context? The way he writes... it is rather obvious what he is promoting I think. Anyhow “There are no “standards of Right”. Ethics is balderdash. Each Star must go on its own orbit. To hell with “moral principle”; there is no such thing” -Crowley, Aleister. The Old and New Commentaries to Liber AL, II,28. ^ out of context again? hahaha Funny too considering Taoism + Buddhism are all about Virtue and Ethics

“I bind my blood in Satan, All that lieth betwixt my hands To thee, the Beast, and thy control, I pledge me; body, mind and soul.” ~ Aleister Crowley (Satanic Extracts)* “I swear to work my Work abhorred, Careless of all but one reward, The pleasure of the Devil our Lord.” ~ Aleister Crowley (Satanic Extracts)* *(Black Lodge Publishing, 1991) I suppose these are out of context too?

On 12 February 2001 Henry Bibby (alias Edward Crowley) was sentenced to life imprisonment at the Old Bailey for carrying out a Crowleyite ritual of child sacrifice on an innocent twelve-year-old victim. He was obsessed with the Satanist and changed his name to “Edward Crowley” in 1998. He had stabbed the boy, Diego Pineiro-Villar, over thirty times in Covent Garden, London, on 8 May 2000. Police found a holdall that Bibby had kept with him. It contained a small number of legal documents about his change of name, and a chilling sketch that police believe was drawn a few weeks before the attack. Entitled Delendus Est Pineiro, which roughly translates as “destroy Pineiro,” the pencil diagram makes references to child sacrifice, black magic and Greek mythology. The symbols relate to quotations from Crowley’s works. http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Aleister%20Crowley.htm

I suppose this is taken out of context also? From “Magick in Theory and Practice” by Aleister Crowley The animal should therefore be killed within the Circle, or the Triangle, as the case may be, so that its energy cannot escape. An animal should be selected whose nature accords with that of the ceremony — thus, by sacrificing a female lamb one would not obtain any appreciate quantity of the fierce energy useful to a Magician who was invoking Mars. In such a case a ram would be more suitable. And this ram should be virgin — the whole potential of its original total energy should not have been diminished in any way. For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high intelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim. For evocations it would be more convenient to place the blood of the victim in the Triangle — the idea being that the spirit might obtain from the blood this subtle but physical substance which was the quintessence of its life in such a manner as to enable it to take on a visible and tangible shape. Those magicians who object to the use of blood have endeavored to replace it with incense. For such a purpose the incense of Abramelin may be burnt in large quantities. Dittany of Crete is also a valuable medium. Both these incenses are very catholic in their nature, and suitable for almost any materialization. But the bloody sacrifice, though more dangerous, is more efficacious; and for nearly all purposes human sacrifice is the best.

love is the law? love under will? These things mean nothing. Love of what? Will of what? Love is truly thrown around too much... with little context. One could have a love of evil for example. You do go further to define Will How does a person ascertain true will and true purpose? All these things can be interpreted any which way a person desires. When things need constant defining I find it suspect. The Thelema definition does later say to do no harm to others. Many other questionable things however throughout his works. I myself would not joke about such serious matters. + to hide behind...oh it was only a joke, I find to be poor character. Personally I would have been more clear from the very beginning. do not harm others, do as you will. rather than say "Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law"? hahaha hmmm

I would make a distinction between European "paganism" and Middle Eastern mythos Some may refer to Hinduism as pagan... this isn't entirely true though. Actions speak louder than words.

the human stomach needs half as much hydrochloric acid to digest plant protein as it needs to digest animal protein. Even using half as much hydrochloric acid the human stomach digests plant protein in half the time. [1] This may explain why newly-converted vegetarians often note less discomfort digesting a vegetarian meal, and feeling less sleepy than after eating an omnivore meal Humans are unlikely to have been naturally omnivorous. Most animals eat a narrow range of food when that food is abundant, only eating outside that range if it becomes scarce. This suggests that omnivore diets are more of a fall-back position than the norm From around 24 million to 5 million years ago fruit appears to have been the main (possibly the only) ingredient in the human diet. Humans appear to have begun to include small amounts of (raw) meat around 4.5 million years ago [2] When an ice age and drought turned humans from gatherers to hunter-gatherers during the Pliocene period (3.5 million years ago), the raw meat content of the human diet likely increased However, as meat is almost universally cooked in order to make it more palatable and easier to digest, it is unlikely that a great deal of meat was eaten before humans learned how to light and control fire (around 500,000 years ago) http://www.greenheal...fruitarian.html Humans are primarily frugivores?

So tropic zones are more yang?

Luciferian is basically anti God (Goodness) / Atheist The "Do what thou wilt is the whole of the law.” (Crowley 1978). Knowledge of good and evil // as tempted by the serpent As I would say being dishonest is no good They would not care in the slightest As I would say murder is no good They would not care in the slightest They would believe it to be progress / knowledge ... a learning experience. (knowledge of evil) Or more just an excuse to do what ever they want without any consequences. As a freedom? They view(ed) God / or people who follow the way as an obstruction to their desire/ knowledge of evil. So they work against God and people who follow the way. (destroying or corrupting) Is my basic understanding Basically psychopaths/sociopaths V The Empathic Who knows

I was going to say apparent ice age haha... seems you may have come across similar information yourself. It is ... difficult to ascertain the truth haha. I didn't really want to get into it I guess you have a linear view of time? I suppose I have a more cyclic view of time. Hmm maybe both linear and cyclic and non existent hahaha Anyhow