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Well this guy understood, but was considered "extreme". "hyper sensitive" ... even crazy... now we think it crazy not to wash hands before operations etc... That was new ground at the time... As is this discussion today. 10, 20, 30 years from now people may see things differently. I wonder how long it took for people to understand that smoking wasn't actually good for them. Now it is understood... and people still do it... *shrugs*

Something to investigate anyway... if it is killing plants/ cell damage how does that effect human health + longevity It may be accumulative over 20+ years ... Most people aren't going to care

Taomeow made the good example (western medical thread) of a German doctor who was put in a psychiatric ward because he believed that people should wash their hands before operations etc to reduce infection... guess they though he was "paranoid" too haha... Many things are worth investigation In my experience the truly paranoid person is the person who shuts down at information for fear of the unknown/ fear of the truth Or plain general laziness... easier to dismiss than to investigate / don't want to take responsibility / questions dominant habits Courageous persons such as Semmelweis, always questioning, refining, exploring, pioneers ... at times crucified by the very people they are trying to help "paranoid" Would it be paranoia to tell a child to be careful around fire? "Paranoia is a thought process believed to be heavily influenced by anxiety or fear, often to the point of irrationality and delusion" Or would such a warning be reasonable?

I believe all aspects of the body play some part all important in their own ways. The removal of wisdom teeth seems bizarre to me generally (like that of healthy teeth) It is accepted that babies have teething pain which is considered necessary... people don't start removing baby teeth because of this... Yet when adults experience pain related to wisdom teeth coming in they get them removed... A friend had a somewhat traumatic experience with the removal of the tooth... which furthered my interest in it. Quick search

The above article goes into how they can adjust the direction of the tooth now without removing them

"Through qigong we integrate and harmonize our whole being - from our ancient evolutionary past - and thereby we also overcome our deep fears and we restore deep energy abilities, like regeneration and spirit travel, seeing the future, seeing inside objects, etc." Ancient evolutionary past... and restore deep energy abilities... ? To restore, meaning that these things were previous to ... "evolutionary past" Like saying this reptilian thing was a later edition/ corruption of the mammalian ... we have to bypass the reptilian to restore the mammalian... though apparently the reptilian predates... so how can it be restore is this an unconscious understanding of DNA manipulation ? Could the change in DNA occur by means of reptilian behaviors like eating flesh.

I can feel these things - can't see them as yet. I wonder if you can transform this energy into something positive? lead into gold type of thing

Thanks Manitou Hmm, I have read the Tao Te Ching some years ago in full. I don't recall reversion precisely I do like aspects of it... "He who conquers himself" etc what good leadership is etc. I am more toward eternal progression, an infinity of creative expression and individuality, I enjoy the vibrancy of Nature and its many forms and the evolution of these forms ... rather than a regression or "return" ... it may be like an adult human wishing to return to its mothers womb... I can't see this as natural/ desirable... maybe it is some spiritual fear to leave the nest. For me the Tao, is tapping into our own infinite potential/ Consciousness ... this is being in "the flow" ... which allows great creative expression/ manifestation/ physical feats.... rather than return to the seed consciousness we become a tree of consciousness...development... in nature the givers of life desire for their offspring to be healthy and powerful a progression of themselves. Individuality within community/ culture/ nature/ environment/ though - the consideration of the greater being. Perhaps team sports are a good example, a team is made up of individuals with certain strengths/ weaknesses etc and the teams plays those advantages to their overall success. The team also has to know their environment to be successful / natural laws Then we have humanity as a team. In which I believe the best expressions of the "individuals" peoples should be celebrated as part of the vibrancy of life each having something unique to contribute.

Thanks for the recommendation! Very interested! Don't wear sunglasses Yeh computers etc late at night @_@

Gandhi is not who you think he is You appear to be selective in what crimes happened throughout history and who was responsible. When it comes to the crimes of others you dismiss them as being irrelevant or due to their "humanness" Apparently "white people" are to be held to a higher standard and judged more harshly for the same crimes others all over the planet have been committing since aeons. Who are "white people" ? you seek to annihilate "white people" (under the guise of "One") because of the actions of the British government/ a handful Merchants/ International Bankers? People such as Alan Greenspan Chairman of the Federal Reserve of the United States from 1987 to 2006.? ... 99% of "white people" being as enslaved physically and mentally (Judeo-Christianity + Mass Media) at different times... today with debt slavery, heavy taxation + sex slavery of East-European women in the Middle East You said: This is just a subtle way of advocating genocide of all peoples. Do you believe all birds should become "One" ? What a dull world that would be... I am not sure about the obsessions with "oneness", reminds me of the Borg and hive minds. "Resistance is futile" .... "You will be assimilated" haha Nature from my observation has been becoming more complex, more diverse, more colorful ... Yet you speak of a regression of the creative powers of nature to create some "utopian" nothingness, without distinction... something like the moon or other dead planet without distinction you may find homely (oneness, without distinction) ... a "humanity" similar to the "grey aliens" (maybe that is the future you are working towards) Which is communist ideology whose ideals are the destruction of tradition, culture, family etc (government becomes the family etc) peoples in general... the purpose being uprooted peoples, peoples without an identity are easily controlled/ enslaved... a tree without roots will fall. Communism is a Capitalistic system, funded by Wall Street etc. Communism has killed 200+ Million odd people globally to achieve its "perfect world" ... each time a total nightmare. Cultural Marxism pervades mass media and "education" ... Yuri Bezmenov ex KBG agent called it subversion/ psychological warfare

"every one of us derives the benefits of what the slaves built." Does that include Irish slaves? British children? Taxation? Debt Slavery to International Banks? etc I was reading from an old Irish poet Aindrias Mac Marcais: Gan gaire fa ghniomhradh leinbh ... There is no laughter at children's doings. Music is prohibited, the Irish language is in chains. Destruction of indigenous European peoples + traditions... going back 2000 odd years... forgotten Loss of people + destruction (+rewriting) history/ knowledge + culture, slavery Typically at the hands of Monotheists (in large scales) // Sex slavery of European women... ongoing (in particular East-Euro)

Many seem to ignore 3, 4, 7, 8, 10 when it comes to the animal kingdom. I've been meaning to read 'A Book of Five Rings'

A thread dedicated to Nikola Tesla. “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”

Very good! Thanks ... I can experience the perfume of roses + the taste of oranges and so on... when I put my mind to it... We are ultimately self perpetuating beings without need for any external ... .. the foods we consume are light in different forms.... the closer to the source the more light ... til you absorb light itself... and from there... Light is Consciousness. Trees I believe are one of the greatest intelligences in the universe.... the Cosmic Tree What a powerful being... turning light into... all the fruits of the earth.... and wondrous visions... flowers and perfumes.... by the power of light and water.... The Tree/ plants give us much, I appreciate them very much... it saddens me to think of building and cutting trees... I have to find a way around this. I have been fruitarian the past 4 days. Living from the fruits of trees, what they offer we humans to live.... and truly live.... The next step is direct Light... all in good time...

“Every night (and sometimes during the day), when alone, I would start out on my journeys - see new places, cities and countries - live there, meet people and make friendships and acquaintances and, however unbelievable, it is a fact that they were just as dear to me as those in actual life and not a bit less intense in their manifestations. This I did constantly until I was about seventeen when my thoughts turned seriously to invention. Then I observed to my delight that I could visualize with the greatest facility. I needed no models, drawings or experiments. I could picture them all as real in my mind.” http://books.google.com.au/books?id=ms8Cvid0zR0C&pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&dq=Every+night+%28and+sometimes+during+the+day%29,+when+alone,+I+would+start+out+on+my+journeys+-+see+new+places,+cities+and+countries+-+live+there,+meet+people+and+make+friendships+and+acquaintances+and,+however+unbelievable,+it+is+a+fact+that+they+were+just+as+dear+to+me+as+those+in+actual+life+and+not+a+bit+less+intense+in+their+manifestations.+This+I+did+constantly+until+I+was+about+seventeen+when+my+thoughts+turned+seriously+to+invention.+Then+I+observed+to+my+delight+that+I+could+visualize+with+the+greatest+facility.+I+needed+no+models,+drawings+or+experiments.+I+could+picture+them+all+as+real+in+my+mind.&source=bl&ots=Cc0576pXjk&sig=iA88lFVoF5D_XqULuZvl2qaCBl4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=F1RrVIHSAsS0mwXI5oKYDA&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Every%20night%20%28and%20sometimes%20during%20the%20day%29%2C%20when%20alone%2C%20I%20would%20start%20out%20on%20my%20journeys%20-%20see%20new%20places%2C%20cities%20and%20countries%20-%20live%20there%2C%20meet%20people%20and%20make%20friendships%20and%20acquaintances%20and%2C%20however%20unbelievable%2C%20it%20is%20a%20fact%20that%20they%20were%20just%20as%20dear%20to%20me%20as%20those%20in%20actual%20life%20and%20not%20a%20bit%20less%20intense%20in%20their%20manifestations.%20This%20I%20did%20constantly%20until%20I%20was%20about%20seventeen%20when%20my%20thoughts%20turned%20seriously%20to%20invention.%20Then%20I%20observed%20to%20my%20delight%20that%20I%20could%20visualize%20with%20the%20greatest%20facility.%20I%20needed%20no%20models%2C%20drawings%20or%20experiments.%20I%20could%20picture%20them%20all%20as%20real%20in%20my%20mind.&f=false

Your text initially said forefather, either way your intention was the same despite the error. I have amended this in my text.

Is Earth good for raw vegan? haha I have:40% Earth, 37% Wood, 15% Fire, 6% Water. 2% Metal Thanks for the links Andrei! How does this work for other animals who as a whole eat the same few things and are of good health?

How many people today are fathers of many fields...? "Hype" - You said it yourself "he's a father* of many fields" Seems a contradiction to me. Maybe you would like to address some of these theories in more detail? "Conspiracies" as a dismissive tends to get thrown around a lot without supporting evidence. collusion, intrigue, connivance, machination, collaboration Are you saying these things do not exist? hahahahah

Thought is faster than light. Do you mean, say with electricity some frequencies? can kill while others are harmless and even said to heighten consciousness (as per work of Tesla)? Some information regarding natural and artificial light. Doctor Alexander Wunsch, (German Lighting Engineering Society + International Society for Subtle Energies and Energy Medicine (ISSSEEM)) on biological interaction with light. The eye is definitely not the only receptive organ for light. Human skin is transparent to light.Even short wave-lengths like UV radiation reach the capillary layers and the blood inside these delicate vessels. All the pigments and molecules with chromophoric groups in our body absorb and emit photons. Each single atom has the attribute we could call photonic metabolism. Photons are the language in which all matter communicates; every jump (change of energy level) of an electron is a accompanied by photonic activity. The specific composition of sunlight as well as the properties of the atmospheric layers play important roles for the life-aiding qualities of natural light. Under today’s view-point we have to suspect that every aberration from these properties make artificial lighting potentially dangerous for health. The implications of Malillumination: Titoff, 1999: "There was a statistically significant difference between the students who worked under old-style fluorescent lights and those who worked under full-spectrum, visually-efficient lighting." This controlled study verified that depression was lowered among those students who experienced learning under full-spectrum lighting. Depression actually increased under standard fluorescent lights among the fourth graders. As an elementary school principal William Titoff conducted research for his Ph.D. dissertation and discovered that when the project was completed teachers with the full-spectrum lighting refused to put back the old-style fluorescent bulbs. Harmon, l938 found that over 4000 children developed observable deficiencies associated with Malillumination. In the late 1940's conditions of the learning environment (lighting, seating and decor) were instituted in schools, resulting in the following student improvements: 65% reductionin visual difficulties, 47.8% decline in nutritional problems, 43.3% reduction in chronic infections, 25.6% reduction in postural problems and, finally, 55.6% decline in chronic fatigue. (Laurence D. Martel) Increased exposure to fluorescent light and cancer risk: Energy saving lamps emit UV-B and traces of UV-C radiation. It is generally recognized that UV- radiation is harmful for the skin (e.g. skin cancer) and the eyes (e.g. cataract). UV-C radiation, which is normally not observed in nature because it is absorbed completely in the atmosphere,is especially harmful. Several studies have found that fluorescent lights raise the risk for skin cancer . (Lytle, 1992) The following results were obtained in a 2 year pilot study by S.L Gabby MD, determining the relationship between artificial light and its effects on C3H mice (highly prone to tumour development, 98% of males and females normally spontaneously develop breast cancer): Type of Light No. of pairs of C3H mice A. Pink fluorescent 30 pairs 29 female mice developed cancer – the other died of liver problems. Females died 1 month earlier than those in Group B. 1-2 offspring per litter, instead of 6-15. B. Daylight-white fluorescent 30 pairs 24 of 30 female mice developed cancer – 2 other females died of liver problem. Able to breed 2 months longer than A. Also had larger litters than A. C. Daylight through windows into basement room 8 pairs (used as control) Developed cancer 3 months after Group A, and 2 months after Group B 2 pairs of 8 pairs carcinoma free at time of report. Source: S.L. Gabby (1961), Observations on the effects of artificial light on the health and development of mice, cited by J.N. Ott (1982), How to Stay Healthy, Devin-Adair (1982), ISBN 0-8159-61 21-9. Note: Lighting conditions were the only variable used. In a similar study, using over 2,000 C3H mice J.N. Ott demonstrated the link between light and mortality rate from spontaneous tumour development, as below: Type of Light Average Lifespan of C3H Mice Pink fluorescent 7.5 months Daylight white fluorescent 8.2 months Full-spectrum plastic glazing 15.6 months Natural outdoor daylight 16.1 months Source: J.N. Ott (1973), Health and Light: The Extraordinary Study That Shows How Light Affects Your Health And Emotional Well-being, Ariel Press, USA, ISBN 0-89804-098-1. At the 1967, International Committee on Illumination (C.I.E.) in Washington D.C three Russian scientists; Dantsig, Lazarev and Sokolov presented a paper stating that: If human skin is not exposed to solar radiation (direct or scattered) for long periods of time, disturbances will occur in the physiological equilibrium of the human system. The result will be functional disorders of the nervous system and a vitamin-D deficiency, a weakening of the body's defenses, and an aggravation of chronic diseases (Ott, 1986) It was also noted by F. Hollwich and B. Dieckhues (1980), ‘The Effect of Natural and Artificial Light Via the Eye on the Hormonal and Metabolic Balance of Animal and Man’, Opthalmologia 180, No.4, pp. 188-197, Raised levels of ACTH and cortisol (indicators of stress) were found as a result of exposure to cool-white fluorescent lights, in addition to reducing immune system functioning, and mental performance. Raised stress levels can also stunt children’s growth. Cool-white Fluorescent tubes were legally banned in some German medical institutions. A partial listing of health problems and social problems that fluorescent light have been implicated as aggravating is given below: (H.E.S.E Project, 2012) Aggression ALS Attention Deficit Disorder Autism CFS/ME Cancer Reduced concentration Confusion Diabetes Dermatitis Dental caries Dizziness Dyslexia Dyspraxia Eczema Electro-hypersensitivity Epilepsy Eye irritation Eye strain Fatigue Headaches Hyperactivity Irritability Learning difficulties Lupus Reduced muscle strength MS Nausea Photosensitivity Xeroderma pigmentosum References: Brown, S. ( November 8, 2006). Marilyne Andersen speaks about utilizing natural light. MIT Tech Talk , 3. H.E.S.E Project. (2012). Artificial Light in the Environment: Human Health Effects. Retrieved March 2012, from The H.E.S.E. Project: http://www.hese-project.org/hese-uk/en/issues/cfl.php F. Hollwich and B. Dieckhues (1980), ‘The Effect of Natural and Artificial Light Via the Eye on the Hormonal and Metabolic Balance of Animal and Man’, Opthalmologia 180, No.4, pp. 188-197 J.N. Ott (1973), Health and Light: The Extraordinary Study That Shows How Light Affects Your Health And Emotional Well-being, Ariel Press, USA, ISBN 0-89804-098-1. Laurence D. Martel, P. (n.d.). LIGHT: AN ELEMENT IN THE ERGONOMICS OF LEARNING. Retrieved March 2012, from Full Spectrum Solutions: http://www.fullspectrumsolutions.com/lighting_for_schools.shtml Lytle CD, Cyr WH, Beer JZ, Miller SA, James RH, Landry RJ, et al. An estimation of squamous cell carcinoma risk from ultraviolet radiation emitted by fluorescent lamps. Photodermatol Photoimmunol Photomed 1992/1993; 9:268-274. Ott, D. J. (1986, January/February). Dr. John Ott: The Light Side of Health. Retrieved March 2012, from Mother Earth News: The Original Guide to Living Wisely: http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-community/john-ott-zm0z86zhun.aspx?page=5 S.L. Gabby (1961), Observations on the effects of artificial light on the health and development of mice, cited by J.N. Ott (1982), How to Stay Healthy, Devin-Adair (1982), ISBN 0-8159-61 21-9. Wunsch, D. A. (2006). Artificial Lighting and Health . Journal of Optometric Phototherapy , 1-5. (Info from a paper I was doing some years ago)

perhaps te most damaging thing is lack of natural sunlight with long office hours screen time

Gluten and Neurological Diseases (+ Other) http://thetaobums.com/topic/28443-gluten-and-neurological-diseases-other/page-2

vajra chains? hmm

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