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Whats with the commandments ? Besides, Force isnt how I judge value, its how one overcomes obstacles that dont happen to fall out fortuitously as I want them to. My eye doesnt offend me so much as what they see, sometimes, its Far better to force your hand to obey , than me to pluck out my own eye, thats for certain! If your going to get all christian on me, may I remind you that God killed almost everything on earth once , threatens with hell and misfortune the disobedient.

Oh! So they did find the giant diamond tipped bronze circular saw ?

So , umm.. which of those tools cuts multi ton rock cubes at high speed? Is it the wooden stick ,? or the round rock?

I choose the immorality which is more humane than the phony morality of things such as they stand. Who am I to decide about the appropriate use of force? I am me. You are you, and you abdicated that choice, naievely thinking that retreat is a viable option .

Karl, yes my stance is that morality is arbitrary, saying so, arbitrary, meaning that one may have good reason for ones view ,its just not universal. Can? we continue to collectively exploit as we have? Sure. But no I dont really condone it, nor do I villify some guy trying to support his family cutting down the rain forest as being a bad man. I just think its counterproductive to break the world into good and bad, because that judgement pushes us to ignore why the guy is cutting the forest ,making him enemy, instead of redirecting him to succeed instead by being some form of steward or guide or hotelier or teacher etc. The opportunity lost ,due to waste is real! Its not just treehugging in preference to embracing ones fellow man.

Aperion&Peiron, .. AP, I basically agree with that all, .. so very true about not being able to find a stick I love that! noticed it too when I was a kid in Brooklyn and couldnt find one. the issue still plagues me in Florida! where there is just such a paucity of wildness. Its tiny patches of cut over land strewn among development.

True, but thats kinda hard to measure at all

The morality of initiating force being wrong, ,, umm morality is a confabulation, wrongness is too , and thats just opinion, which no nation on earth can adhere to simply for the reason that everyone doesnt agree.

Hmmm good retort. BUT the population issue doesnt revolve around human body size, it pivots around the use of resources. What ive heard is that there is not enough to continue to support the population in the way that folks would consider quality living. I look at a satellite image and it fits with what I see in florida, that the land is being covered with development, that the weather patterns are being affected, that drinking water is becoming a commodity seas emptied, etc. Yes Populations are said to contract with financial affluence, but that same affluence relies on the marked exploitation of resources. Lack of physical Space for human bodies is not the problem.Population predictions suggest that theres a major exponential upswing about to happen because of all the young folks that havent gotten to breeding yet. One could reasonably suggest many modifications regarding the distribution of wealth etc, but feasibly ,I dont think they can happen, it requires too much sacrifice and cooperation. Everything is NOT fine going forward ,if we want nature to be sustained , lives to have comfort, and people to have carte blanche making more people . One can wait till every redwood but one, is gone, before saying ,Whoa, or you can say Whoa, before that ,or you have the last one be the end of it... but any way you look at it, the choice is some form of restraint, or total loss eventually.

Very well ,he'd try to get the lowest grade.

You could be right,, my assumption was based more on a sort of gut check that I felt listening to parts. I reacted negatively , sort of sounded like some sort of Nazi horror stories. I heard Talk of a eugenics program , rule by an unelected elite ,and his assertion about god existing , and I balked too, it just seemed he left much unexplained and what he did say didnt appear to jive with the expected intellectual bent towards atheism.. I didnt care either for the presumptive idea that I should weigh his ideas more heavily based on I Q score. Ones ideas need to stand on their own merit or they dont have any. It felt like I was expected to give credence to stuff about gods because of the guys big head. and my gut reactions ,should remain questionable... ... to me,,no one else

That you dont like the idea of procreation control, is a pretty conventional attitude. , but even families regulate the number of kids they have.. understanding that population is a serious problem not solving itself, since individuals consider themselves foremost.. isnt stupid, nor is policing violent men. Im sure we all would prefer to just release a statement asking people not to have more than one kid for a while ,and have everyone cooperate with it voluntarily.

I just read his thing on ctmu, tautologically its fine imo, that is to say, if I entertain his precepts his conclusion appears sound. I need to read it again, but it spends a lot of its attention on opposing abstract math vs empirical science , which is a false dichotomy. Math, roughly speaking, is a means to delineate quantitative relationships, by itself, it cant predict qualitative ones. It cant predict that X is an orange , or a unicorn... someThing is required to give X meaning .(in a universe with no unicorns , unicorns never happen , so X is not equal to any number of unicorns there.) So math relies on science just as much ,if one is investigating realities in this universe. That he would like to have a means to reliably discern truth, is however , understandable...

In this interview he doesnt seem so depressed. He comes across as a decent guy with a life he appoves of. He has a habit of touching things philosophical in nature, same stuff sometimes attended to here, in fact. I think he might be likeable in person, maybe more so than others too proud of their own skill sets in the hi iq group thing. .since brightness isnt exactly wiseness, (which may get forgotten in pursuit of esteem.)'.......Im wondering how the heck one would measure the IQ of Darwin.

Well, that was one of those hesitation spots, hes aware, of the shortcomings of an IQ test. So im wondering how he can have an elite society of brainiacs, if one cant determine who that is. Towards the end he suggests he has his own method that might suffice, but its not investigated. If it was good, then he could parlay that into useful form ,rather than bounce.

Interesting guy. He seems to entertain conventional ideas though. He may have ,or may not have insight beyond standard, but nothing particular stood out as exceptional. Im not bashing the guy, several hesitations at telling points suggest to me that he may be rather sopisticated in his thinking,Im just sayin that this clip really doesnt explore in any self evident way such sophistication.

The reasons for massed battles,are several. 1 You want to have a decisive battle because waiting will put you in a bad position.2 if the enemy is massed, thats stronger than having your guys in a broken formation.3 massed forces lose fewer men to desertion 4 You can communicate your orders effectively,, and so forth.

They probably thought the kids were throwing food out the window. I know I dont get the rules, probably since they dont make sense really, like ,,throwing tame birds out the window.

Brian, you are of course certainly correct on several important points. However, since this is not a coffee shop , I dont feel free to follow any of it up. nor do I wish to try to force anyone ,with iron clad logic, into some kind of box. I try to leave ways out so one may agree on their own merit ,or escape to consider more at leisure. OR , possibly I am just too lazy to try. Yes students dwell ad nauseum on vague questions, like the Origin of Mankind. But if the answers supplied arent really the object of the exercise, Whats wrong with diverging from it altogether? rendering it all coffee shop casual chat,, rather than a grueling court case? anyway,,thats just how I look at these things. Carry on.

Nothing to do with it whatsoever. It was a sidebar, a momentary lapse purely for the benefit of us discussing it. Would you try so hard to dominate the conversation that others couldnt diverge even momentarily? That would be kind of domineering. That folks respond to a question you put,,makes you indebted to the responder, not the other way around.Hasnt your question already been answered? What need is there to keep cycling around it? And if you reject the answers put , what answer is the one you want?

Precisely true about traditional heroes, sometimes celebrated as a sacrificial lamb, depicted on a cross,displayed. But thats just the PR version. ..yes there is the other sincere version too. The inspiration, fathers teachers, friends of friends in need. But though the type varies,,Im still thinking that it is a title bestowed. One may live heroically, though go unnoticed for it. Maybe youre right, that a person could acknowledge their own heroism. It does seem a bit unfair to have to leave that to the disinterested. I mean like, screw them ! the blind stingy sheep! I change my mind. I accept that I am a hero in your eyes.

Michael, a computer cant really answer that, whether it generates a 42 or not. Neither can Dao bums unless a chord is struck. Most will keep to the mindset they start with ,while we throw bottles into the sea and theres no assurance either that the bottles contain the cure a person needs. We hope.

and I mean that as high compliment.

I do not know that heroes know who they are, who may prove themselves to be one, or that our reason really even plays a big role in deciding what we have yet to do. No sir. From what Ive heard, they almost unanimously say, they did that which needed to be done,or they did the thing for their brother. .. Because it isnt really rational..isnt a clinical conclusion weighed and measured in cold facts. And I dont think you are as selfish as you prefer to attribute to yourself. Sorry, the emotion thats involved boils up, and later we explain ,to cover our ass. You feel you have something to contribute, not to gain,,for if it were to gain, youd listen hidden on the sidelines. you mushy idealistic fool.

Yes mom. just kidding, this century? ready to be civilized? I dont see it , but ive been surprised before. I was the guy who rhetorically asked, What do I need a computer in my house for? I dont have any recipes to organize, and can already balance a checkbook.