Stosh

Wow! Good point. I never noticed that. No basking or rolling in it. I guess I am just fine with the path of this subject being an unending series of transitions. But yes, I guess it is rather restless. Hmmmmn

Ok, both explanation versions work, The confusion is resolved and this system is working as it should . No worries! Next section?

I could have either composed my post in Word and transferred it to here or I could have added to it later.l recognize that it would be a restriction on myself as well, but despite liking the privilege for me.. in the interests of the whole , I think it better this way. If a long term member deletes all their posts all the responses made to it don't make sense. The integrity of all the associated contributions suffer, thus magnifying the disruption beyond the original poster's purview. Its not "fair to everyone else" like the quiet reader trying to follow a discussion that gets changed retroactively. They might not post or vote but that doesn't mean that they do not value of what has been said,, and it doesn't mean they won't anonymously drift away. If yall mods and stewards need the restriction in place , I understand that, I wouldn't want the headache at all! And I really believe the intent is not to impose any more than needed, since yall don't want to destroy the feel of the thing. I have been on the recieving end of a strategically altered post and it made me angry as heck. Having to own up to ones foibles may not be fun , but It will trend to make folks think twice about a rash sentence. I am not a disciplinarian by any means, but some livable rules makes a sociable situation more likely . This rule hasn't been given a chance ! And there is this dramatic rebellion to prevent the Big Brother Nazis from crushing everyones ability to communicate. Give it a month , (it takes that long to seize new habits) and if it is still such a stifling obstacle then it should be clear as a bell what action should be taken ,after all , How many posts do you end up correcting more than a day later? One? Two? I am thinking I have Never done that. It is a tiny restriction in the interest of the integrity of our threads, and cooling heads. Yeah well, all those "." posts certainly read that way.

Presented the choice, I vote no , editing posts willy nilly after other folks have read them is closing the barn door after you put your foot in it. If it needs be done. Take care, 'Fess up ,Apologize or explain. Comments about 'Nazi state' are what Im talking about , its a wrong unfair accusation. The sentiment had to be bogusly exaggerated in order to seem significant. I vote to just ignore this poll and go ahead and leave the new conditions in place because those who are out of control of themselves shouldnt be relied upon to make responsible decisions for the welfare of the whole 'dojo'. Here in america we have a constitution and judicial system which are not at the whim of the masses. We call it the rule of law , it defends the rights of minorities and majorities BOTH. I was talking to a guy from the mideast about democracy .. he agreed with the idea ! He said it was right , he said it was good , he also said that by majority rule ,,women and folks of other religions in his home country shouldn't ! have rights equal to the 'majority persons'. He wasn't in support of western style 'democracy' which employs rule of law, protection of minorities and so forth. The reason why Im adding all this political type stuff is that some seem not to recognize the value of representative govt. and establishing limits even limits to the whim of the mob. By the way , fourteen votes is nowhere near even a statistically valid representation of public opinion on here.

Theres probably a later incarnation in a feedback loop with the earlier.

Ok then , take 'er up then, because I see the surface not.

Oh, I was thinking in the lines of 'Shaolin type' monks , because I dont know who barbarians are, besides,, being a barbarian seems to be a "postive attribute" as Ive read on dao. I still am lost here.

I can't take the first bite of this section.. I have no idea what it means.

Sturdy and rewarding certainly. I am partial to several plants like that and some that appear not to be.I took a random pic of a wildflower today I think it is called summer farewell.Its tiny jumble of delicate pink and white blooms connote feminine grace and yet it thrives out in the broiling sun sand and wind. I didn't get the woodpecker this time, but did instead get some really nice shots of an endangered immature snail kite..dragonflies ,cattle, starlike moss and a young coyote with fuzzy folded ears. Did you get the solar system in gear? How often are we allowed to say Ciao ? Is it like over and out..or STOP in a telegram? Or is it more a once a day salutation? I was never great with foreign language ( though my sisters are very much so)

It should be called the snow leopard school.

Dividing characters as vice or virtue like that is subjective opinion. .so the question makes no sense. Picking deception at random from the group. Being good at it may make for a successful general or it may enable you to escape a needless confrontation. Looking at this group of emotions and attitudes and behaviors etc From a neutral standpoint they do not stand apart from their Complementary opposites in any objective way. They all correlate to human mind.

I like the dwarf yellow lantana, its underutilized, as is blue portersweed or firebush, have a good morning. Ciao.

True true they are secretive.. but birds can be surprisingly localized in their behavior...hanging around the same place for a week or two..often returning the next year to the exact same pit stops. Fifty feet in either direction and you miss em entirely.

COOL , nifty opportunity there , odds are I'll never even see one. This morning me and a buddy are heading out to see if we can photo a red cockaded woodpecker , he just got a nice camera (first SLR) and wants to get a feel for it.But I will be fine with any new species. I just printed out some 8x10s .. my first larger prints .. They look awesome framed. (Cheap frames at the dollar tree- one dollar). Do you print or just keep digital? Do yourself a little ego boost and print (if you haven't).

Strange you should suggest it ,but there is a coreys least bittern! Which I'd love to get a shot at ! By the way. There are also the two juvenile night herons but they are about the size of the bittern . And a few rails which are rather secretive. Wish I could have been of help. So if you get suspects or clues..

The brown marsh looking bird ,? There are lots to pick from, juvenile white ibis ,american bittern? But those are wild guesses . If you can name a similar looking bird I may be able to help you narrow it down. Pix would be better HINT HINT. yeah , this time of year the early fall migrants are beginniing to pass through , but the main migration is several weeks out still. On wed here in town i spotted a bald eagle ,osprey ,two pairs red shouldered hawks ,two coopers hawks and a red-tailed hawk. Yes they are all resident types but they shift with the seasons. Still haven't got a good shot of a hummingbird yet though.

Im just wondering what folks current avatar pictures mean about ,or to them. I pick mine from the collection of ones I take .. so It basically reflects my interest in animals and such , which Ive been interested in since I was just a little kid. I see yalls all the time , they suggest things to me , and I associate the person with the pic..so what DOES it mean?

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Confused view That people need to know the truth Clear view Folks get along just fine without it most of the time Confused view there are Daoists Clear view There are people ,Daoism is a concept and no matter How refined a box one draws around it , the character Of the concept does not become any more concrete. Confused view Origins matter Clear view They don't. Yesterday is gone , and that once people thought differently about dao at one time, doesnt mean that the tradition has become degraded nor does it mean conclusively that it has become refined. Such an old tradition has had plenty of time to become changed from the original many times over and yet still have had thousands of years to become established. Confused view That a phd in front of a name means anything at all Clear view The proof is in the pudding, facts are facts and opinions are opinions, and anyone ,even a phd (perhaps even more so) may lose track of which is which .

The third option is that he won't require chance random to dictate his behavior , won't be trained to fit pavlovian style. That his own desires and whims , his own natural instincts and Tendencies will propel him unconflicted to whatever results present. He will fly by the seat of his pants.

So you Cd , think Zz wants to literally fly , not as birds and balloons do , but defying the laws of physics . To rise up off the ground because his physical body Is no longer subject to the force of gravity. No hang glider , no leap off of a cliff...... Or perhaps you are speaking figuratively,,! And he is not being portrayed as crazy delusional. But merely by deleting his own motivations , his own ego-ID He is going to float around feeding himself , writing prose, Practicing archery in the countryside...happily desireless and accepting Of the situation as it presents itself...making no attempt to hit the target. Well I wouldn't walking in those woods with arrows flying at random.

I always felt there was more goofing around in that competetive view than any thing else..a good lawyer could prosecute the same case he defends for with equal dispatch. ,, just look at Cd for instance !

Because there is stiill room to see it as non-literal ! hyperbole analogy etc. Ithe philosophical school rejects immortality and you consider yourself to be of that school then how could you consider he meant it as a factual description ? That would sow confusion.

lol ! I don't know how I can use it that way ,, I almost never use quotes

Yes that is a yummy bone!