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I'm watching it right now, thx.

Yeah, a couple of times some months back, it always seems to get stuck in the back behind the heart though, and it can't go up further. However I also had heat in the head so it looks like it was skipping. Nowadays I only try to make everything go down, in both directions, ie, I trace downward from the top of the head, down the tongue (keeping it on the palate), down the front of the body, resting in the lower abdomen, and down the back route (which normally ppl trace upward). So I think of heat from the top of the head down the back of my neck, down my back, and going into the lower abdomen. Strangely I feel a bit of resistance when I trace backward. Yeah it's kind of tough when I get a lot of advice (thanks!) but a lot of it is contradictory, and I try something once or twice, find it doesn't do anything, and then stop doing it and try something else. Yeah maybe it makes me look bad but hey I'm not a spiritual person and I totally lack any sort of spiritual discipline. Always looking for something quick and easy I can do without much effort I suppose it would make more sense seeing a professional who can give me one consistent regimen to stick to, although I did have the following strange experience: A couple of months ago I showed up to a local group which professed to practice "kundalini meditation." I wanted to get some answers and see what they know. I told them about my symptoms, and they said, no way, there is no such thing as "kundalini syndrome." You have something else. Kundalini is gentle, peaceful, and cool. There is no heat in kundalini. Uh, WTF? And they told me to try their strange practices, which includes lighting up some candles and praying to their idol (who looks like a fat ugly toad). Yeah right lol. Ice, you mentioned that Rinpoce guy in an earlier post. I might as well give them a call they live close to me. Hey when you guys say kunlun are you talking about the book written by Max Christenssen?? http://www.amazon.com/Kunlun-Max-Christensen/dp/2813200182/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356889264&sr=8-1&keywords=kunlun How long is the book, and is it easy to do? Is there a free pdf ebook? Thx.

Is there a specific thing I can do? Especially something easy and simple that I can do over and over again. Also I have the ability to consciously send heat to most parts of my body. Is there a way to use this heat skill in order to cause kundalini to flow down? I try to concentrate and imagine heat going down my spine and torso instead of upward, but it doesn't do anything. Shouldn't I theoretically be able to control kundalini by sending heat to particular parts of the body? It would be nice to "turn on" all the stuff responsible for life, happiness, ambition, sex, and libido, and "turn off" useless things like ringing in the ears, vibration in the feet, random twitching, and heat sensations, and also detachment/nonattachment and apathy. Thanks. EDIT: yay, 70th post!!!

Hi ppl, I'm getting a strange new symptom and I'm wondering if anybody here knows what is going on. I am a sufferer of what you guys call kundalini syndrome and I got it spontaneously without any spiritual aspiration, past or present. I seem to have lost most of my emotions, both good and bad. I first noticed it a week and a half ago, when a crazy psychopath shot up a school and killed a bunch of kids. Normally, like most people, I would have reacted strongly to such news. But instead, I found myself with no reaction at all. It was like receiving the news of the weather, the stock market, or celebrity gossip. I had no feeling whatsoever. I tested myself by watching disturbing videos, like this worm eating contest: Normally this kind of thing would make me totally vomit, but again, I had no reaction. I also did a google image search for the most disgusting and vile thing I can think of, the infamous "harlequin ichthyosis". (*WARNING* don't search for this unless if you want to be severely disturbed!!!) I remember the first time I saw the pictures a few years ago and it totally grossed me out. But now those evil zombie eyes do nothing to perturb my unusual sense of calm. Ahhh... calmness, no emotion, no fear, no disgust, no anxiety, no attachment. The Stoics held this state in high regard, And it would be all fine and dandy, if I were unaffected only be negative events. Unfortunately, "kundalini" does not have the intelligence that some people ascribe to it, and I find myself unaffected by positive events as well. Today is Christmas, and i should be feeling festive, but I am not. 2 days ago I was at an Xmas party and I left early due to boredom. The day before that I received an unexpected bonus and even that didn't affect me. Now don't get me wrong.... I'm not depressed. I don't feel bad. But I don't feel good either. It looks like I'm stuck at a neutral zero point, devoid of feeling. And everything is so boring and bland here, when the emotions are gone. And It seems like my thinking is also slower, as it took me over half an hour to compose this post. So I ask you guys, WTF is happening to me, and how do I stop it and then hopefully reverse it? I want my emotions back, and I want to return to the way that I was before this shit happened to me. Thanks.

hey dude what happens when you say you "store" it there? Does it heat up ? Do you feel it spinning like I do? Thx.

Thx for the kind comment. No I'm not really ill right now, though things were way before before this damn kundalini syndrome crap started. I'm not sick but I'm not well, if that makes sense Aaron, thx for your concerns. I have read about the common psychiatric disorders carefully and I don't have any of them. However.... I don't have this, but out of curiosity I ask you, what does that imply? What disorder is this associated with?

Hi ppl, Thanks for the responses, I appreciate all the thoughtful stuff here from different perspectives. I've personally been doing some thinking about my issues, and I think it is associated with the amygdala. This is important for emotional processing, and I suspect that the "kundalini syndrome" messed up my amygdala. I had periods of racing thoughts, restlessness, and actual heat in the head, and perhaps suffered some form of resulting neuronal damage.

I got the condition completely spontaneously and I never ever did any practices while I was normal. My libido dropped as a result of developing this disorder, but I also spontaneously developed the ability to send heat to most parts of my body. I discovered (accidentally) that I can restore my libido to the way it was when I was normal by sending heat to the pelvis, so I do this activity for a few minutes a day. I don't do anything else, and I have never done any drugs. I was stable for a couple of months, with only some minor symptoms. But lack of emotion really sucks!

I don't do any tricks, except sending heat to the pelvis to supercharge the libido. The last couple of weeks I moved my back a lot carrying stuff, and messing with the back generally messes me up, but more often agitates me than anything else. I don't really feel anything about the past, which I find disturbing. Cause there is a lot of stuff I should have done differently, but my attitude now is, fuck it, whatever. No and no to the other two q's. No I am not fatigued either. I find myself staying up later than I am used to, but I feel fine. In the last couple of weeks I have not missed a single day in the gym, and I don't feel tired even after strenuous activity. don't even get me started there lol

Greetings from a non-spiritual, accidental kundalini sufferer I have some questions for you guys. Somebody started a recent thread called "The Power of F*ck It" http://thetaobums.com/topic/25806-the-power-of-fck-it/ Is this "fuck it" attitude the same thing as detachment or non-attachment? And is this supposed to be a good or bad thing? I read somewhere that the neck area is associated with this feeling, along with guilt. And strangely, the last few weeks I've noticed myself (involuntarily) not really giving a damn about many things. Urgency, anxiety, and pretty much all burdens of guilt and regret are gone. Now normally it would seem like a good thing to be relieved of such matters, but honestly I think it's somewhat disturbing. Like, if you are going to school or working, and your performance is poor, you need that sense of urgency in order to improve. Otherwise you end up sitting on your ass, continuing to slide. Also, is this detachment compatible with feelings of bliss? I also read that the heart area is responsible for this, but how are you supposed to feel bliss if you don't give a fuck?? thanks.

That's fine but if you opt to let things that you do have control over slide and say fuck it, then that would be very very bad! That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. By this do you mean inner bliss like the kind of bliss you get with an altered state of mind? I'm more thinking about external things like the bliss you get when listening to music or eating your favourite food. Would it not really suck if you were detached from such things? Okay, so some detachment is fine (detachment toward bad things), but if it is taken as a general rule then that means being detached to both good and bad. Why would anyone deprive themselves in this way? Heck even experiencing the bad has it's uses: being detached from fear and anxiety is mostly fine, but it makes horror movies unwatchable I don't, but there is no known medical condition that matches the symptoms satisfactorily, except maybe TLE, which I am studying now. As soon as a medical explanation is discovered, I will never again mention the name kundalini.

Get rid of kundalini and return to normal !!!

Hey guys, two posts in two days I need urgent help!!!! So my libido and sexual powers are down again. It was down a few months ago and lasted for a couple of weeks before going back up to normal, but it's been down again starting last week. At the same time my heart and my limbs are heating up, so bascially my sexual energy is being diverted to other areas where it is wasted. I can fix this by returning all that heat to my sex center in the lower abdomen and pelvis. What are the best methods to do this? I need to supercharge that area and collect as much heat/energy/chi/prana whatever you call it, down there. So far I've been doing this: 1. Thinking about the lower abdomen, trying to heat it up. This doesn't work that well because I can only barely heat it up. 2. Looking at porn and thinking about sex. Also not working well cause my libido is down. Do you experts know any real methods, like spiritual ones, that might work better? I normally don't do any practices but I'll make an exception if it's my sex drive at stake. Cause I'm in my 20's and this shouldn't be happening. I can't afford to wait a few weeks and hope it resolves, I've been seeing this new girl and I need it up now!!!! Thanks again.

Hey thx for the responses guys there are some helpful tips here. Strangely (and thankfully!!!) my sexual prowess returned yesterday. So it was down for a week but I'm suddenly back in business, awwww yeaaaah!!!! I'm going to try the tensing the sphincters and stretching my limbs before working out, I think that makes sense. I found Mr. Clyman's vids on youtube and I'm watching now. No way am I using any medicines or herbs hell no! Eh.... I'm projecting something but it's not magic energy lol.

Hi guys. I have a very weird question I'd like to ask. I experienced what you would call a spontaneous kundalini awakening a year and a half ago, It completely turned my life upside down and also messed up my career. I had to switch jobs and I find myself way, way overqualified to do the mundane work that I'm doing now. I have been reading online about various secret and occult organizations which appropriate mystical imagery, such as the Illuminati, NWO, freemasons, etc, and I am wondering, does my spontaneous kundalini qualify me to join any of those groups?? I am vastly intelligent, creative, and capable, but all my qualities are currently being wasted. If any of these secret groups are hiring people, then I would like to work for them and put my skills to good use. Does anybody know how to make this happen? I have no clue where to begin. I certain that 99.99% of what is written about them on the internet is pure fantasy (just like what is written about kundalini), but I am equallty certain that such groups do exist, if under different names with different motives and different characters. So they're definitely out there in some form, but they are difficult to reach. I'm sure it's one of those situations where you have to know the right people, and sometimes this entails having to know the person who knows the person who knows the right people. Can anyone here point me toward the right direction? Thanks.

lol that's even funnier, serves him right.

You know what, guys, forget it. I figured that asking for a position in some secret government on a forum somewhere is like asking somebody to just hand you a million dollars no strings attached. That's assuming that they even exist, and are looking for people to recruit. Way too many ifs. BTW that scenario actually happened. http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisbarth/2011/01/19/want-a-million-dollars-just-ask-for-it/ Strange world.

Meh.... I was merely fishing around to see if anybody knows anything, wasn't expecting anything concrete in a million years. But I still have to try, and why not? In this day and age where everyone is so close through the internet, you'd never know what you'll find

Errr... maybe I didn't make this clearer. I'm looking for employment from these organizations, not just membership. I don't want to be some guy that meets up somewhere once a month and discusses things. I want to work.. I figured they are well funded, and perhaps kundalini could be some kind of job skill or requirement for a position somewhere. I don't expect any of you to be high ranking members of any of such organizations, or the kind of person that can make me an offer. I don't think such people would be posting on forums like this. But maybe someone here knows someone who knows someone, etc??? There are only six degrees of separation. Just look at it theoretically.... if such organizations are willing to employ new people, I'd be a prime candidate. Young, really smart, creative, capable, absolutely top class education, and "kundalini awakened." How many people in the entire world has all of those credentials?? If you can land me a position somewhere, then of course I'll do what it takes. PM me if you are serious.

Hi guys, just looking for some advice again I'm a completely non spiritual person who has been suffering from spontaneous kundalini for the last year and a half, apparently triggered by too much physical exercise. I usually post like once every couple of weeks or so bitching about a new symptom, but I really have improved the last couple of months, such that the symptoms are hardly noticeable. Right now I still have nightly expanding heat in the chest and neck, and 2 weeks ago had a freaky astral event, but its way better than the old psychological symptoms I used to manifest. I have returned to vigorous daily physical exercise for the last three months. I do well with aerobic exercises like running and biking where my back doesn't move, but I can't seem to do anything which invovles significant spinal movement, because they cause kundalini symptoms later. For instance, the last time I did abdominal crunches, later that night I was agitated, couldn't sleep, twitched/vibrated all over, and my ears were buzzing. And my neck was spasming like hell too. This also happens after playing tennis (lots of spinal rotation with my forehand shots) and lifting free weights, as opposed to using static weight machines. Does anybody know of anything I can do to avoid these kundalini events, short of ceasing my physical activities? I don't do any spiritual activity (I tried a couple of times but it always leads to symptom deterioration) and shaking around does not appear to have any effect. Also anyone have any idea how long this kundalini is going to last? I would be so damn pissed if it keeps going forever.... seriously its been >15 months already and I've been sick of this kundalini crap since day one. Thanks ppl!!

Hi turtle what kind of rash are you talking about? Let me tell you what happened to me one time about 2 months ago.... I was getting some action, ya know, and just as I finished the deed I felt a wave of heat rushing up my torso. But then I noticed a red rash all over my chest, abdomen, and upper arms. It was a temporary rash lasting only a couple of seconds, looks like mottled erythema. And I was like WTF was that, it can't be a coincidence. Never happened since though. Yeah I'm totally trying to ignore this stuff I just assume all of it doesn't exist, and I don't want it to exist. I think being totally non-spiritual probably helps. It's not like it was in my life to begin with so that's no problem. I'm an active dude I'm always on the run, can't imagine myself sitting on my butt doing yoga poses lol. No real point in defending my positions on a spiritual forum though, I mean, I personally believe it's all a biological/biochemical derangement, but most of you think otherwise. To each their own I guess. Let's just say I was making $$$$ before this disaster but now I'm only making $. I know money doesn't buy happiness but losing money definitely causes unhappiness Uh... just played a long bout of tennis.... hopefully I won't get agitated

Hey thanks for posting, ur always nice to me I was hoping you'd tell me something non-spiritual though lol. Eh... its getting a bit better now, at least physically. I'm probably 90% of where I used to be. You know what, the worst part of it is financial. This crap cost me several hundred thousand, and I want my money back !! Wish there's somebody I could sue

Hey guys. I'm wondering if anybody can figure this out. I am suffering from a bad year long+ spontaneous kundalini illness which really f---ed me in many ways, but for the last 2 months or so I've been feeling better and finally getting some rest. Agitation and racing thoughts mostly went away and my twitching/buzzing is down, although my ears still ring and I still have heat here and there. All spontaneous alterations in consiousness, like OBE's and psychedelic experiences, disappeared entirely. Even my lucid dreams, which I've had since I was a kid, well before kundalini sickness, are gone. But I'm still having problems with my chest/heart. Its been burning like hell for the last 4 months. It happens mostly at night starting around 8 PM and it lasts for a couple of hours before disappearing early in the morning. Yes, its physical heat, not heartburn or gastric reflux, and I have no medical problems. Sometimes it coalesces with the heat in my lower back and even goes to my neck, forming a continuous sheet or rod of heat in my torso. What is the significance of this??? What exactly is that heat DOING there in my heart/chest? I don't think its trying to go up because a few months ago it already pushed upward past the heart and into my neck and then head; this event was accompanied by an instant but temporary personality change. For now, I know its not affecting my cardiovascular function/endurance. I still run and train at the same speed and intensity as before. But heat is bad for cardiac myocytes, so I want to get rid of it soon if possible. I have tried "thinking" about the heat going downward into my pelvis, but that has never worked. I never dare think about it going upward to my head cause I know this will cause really bad problems. What can I do about this? If I can get rid of that heat and my pressure headaches then I'll basically be back to normal, more or less. Thanks!!

Dont' take any crap. Start fighting back. You say there are several of them? Pick the smallest, confront him when he's alone,and kick his ass. If you can't even confront the smallest guy, you need to start going to the gym and working out.

Hi stimpy how long did it take for that to go away? I've had it for 4 months already with no signs of improvement. Its interesting you call it "fire in my chest." I used the exact same words in a post a long time ago. Did you have other symptoms after it went away or did you heal after that? One thing I'm deathly afraid of is the heat spilling back to my head again. Not only does that cause bad headaches but it also brings nasty psychological problems along with it. I'll gladly take the heat in the chest if that means it stays away from my head. Stay OUT of my head !!!!