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I will tell what is odd. Here's this local band, niche audience, playing a hard punkish style that is tasteful to hardly anyone, suddenly goes from playing crappy little venues to worldwide megastars in the space of a couple of years. Suddenly the world cant get enough of them, and its been explained in many ways by journalists. But I want to hone in on energy. I was recently re-listenening to some Nirvana stuff on youtube, and realized by the end of it that my energetic state had been shiifted quite a lot. I am still trying to interpret the exact feeling, but what I get is that Kurt was transferring some kind of solution to the problem that he was singing about in his lyrics. The lyrics you can reference yourself, but, the thing is, most people didnt really understand what he was saying, including me, but there was something in the screams that was somehow compelling. With "smells like teen spirit" they redirected the entire music industry, but all they could do was echo Nirvana. My hypothesis is that there is an energetic message in this song and others by Nirvana. Perhaps Kurt was aware, perhaps not, but his lyrics seemed to point to knowing about what he was doing. Here is the problem, here is the solution, its in the energy behind the words. You listen, receive the transfer. Humans evolve one step more. Of course, after the grunge era, things got mired back to deliberate commercialism and copy cats, as humans are not fast to evolve, and take two steps back. The message gets thrown out then mixed in.

Thanks for reviving this topic. I had some more thoughts recently, in that a whole era or group of people get boiled down into one archetype that represents the whole. We need archetypes, otherwise, our brains simply cannot cope with all the data. Interesting that someone pointed out that it appeals to adolescent mind not the mature mind. I would go further, and it really speaks to the primitive rage that people repress, the Jungian shadow. Possibly maturity allows a person to integrate these primitive emotions, or perhaps not. Very few are the people who roam the earth who have truly integrated their primal rage and shadow self. If you follow prof Jordan Peterson's talks on the subject, you may understand how its more likely that 90 plus percent of us are much closer to homocidal or genocidal potential given the correct social and political circumstances, drawing from the fact that 90 percent of Germans tacitly or directly aided in the holocaust, even though they were no longer adolescents, and had mature, civilized minds. Mosh pit dancing is trance inducing, as well as becoming unified with the crowd via the music, Some Sufi and Hassidic dancing is similar, jumping around with the boys in a music trance. its not a unique spiritual experience, except that in grunge the unspoken rules allow you to be somewhat more violent as you jostle around. So we were able to release alot of emotions, positive and negative all at once. Extremely healthy. My last point is about the "teen angst" which is really a recognition of the unsatisfactory nature of life, in Samsara. And the gen X'ers who, after their little rant, found meditation and yoga to be a more long term solution to the ongoing up and down nature of human existence.

There are two different possible conceptions of God in this verse. One is panentheist (not pantheist) where God is everything and creates everything including what we call "evil" which is not evil if God created it. This is a Kabbalist or higher understanding, a kind of enlightened understanding similar to Buddist or Taoist, which is why the Kabbalists hid this kind of teaching. Most people are not ready to step out of ethical monotheism because many people would not act in a virtuous or healthy way if they understood that pursuing evil was as much of God as pursuing good. They would simply just follow their pleasures and ego inclinations or worse. Ethical monotheism sets out what is right and wrong. This is orthodox Judaism, who would interpret the verse as something like God created evil so that you may go towards the good. Link to article Further in Isaiah 45, God says further qualifications similar to this, 25Through the Lord shall all the seed of Israel find righteousness and boast. You can study this concept and others in a book called, The Secret Life of God

I watched the first 27 seconds and conclude that he is having a kind of temporary awakening experience, not stable. His grinning at his hand is all the clues one needs.

I developed a system of yoga that takes main points above discussed. To a simple asana routine, I add a smile, or varying emotions similar to the secret smile. I call it "heart yoga" because it tends to open the heart energetic center. As far as starting practice with the perfect emotional state, don't worry. The masters knew that we all come into practice at many different emotional states and mindsets. Its the practice that can transform this in a jiffy, because as you increase your qi flow, you can use that as a lever to amplify a positive emotional state. Over time the practice becomes your "happy place" and is an instant emotional anchor. This is what the masters mean, when they say with so few words, to just be that positive emotional state. Another interesting comment I'd like to address is if these emotions are "just" passions. Yes on a lower level, but much more than passions as you develop the heart. The power of higher love reveals itself within the passion all along, but subtler, less attached, having more in common with some level of emptiness. However the way to achieve the higher quality of love is through the frequent practice of the heart center. The effectiveness is born out by all the many schools that practice some form of devotion, such as Tantra, Hassidut, guru yoga, etc.

-practise in front of a mirror -thank the audience before you start -its ok to admit to nervousness because it inspires empathy, (although never admit to being tired if you are) -talk as if to one person, a friend

Hi Shad, I have the same symptom of painful ring thing around the heart, that I can sense more easily at night in bed, and you can perhaps look at my own diagnosis and compare to yours, although I dont have meridian pains or some other sexual energy build up issue you mention, I do have sadness, which upon closer study is due to a very selfish lifestyle. When people are absorbed in themselves only, its very easy to feel depressed. The heart center is the physical entry point of our ego, the thing which binds us to this programmed attached life, fear and desire, samasara. Why I say it is the center of the ego, is that is where the first pain (of and fear or pain of a desire being thwarted) actually hits the body, it comes in energetically like a squid around the heart center, and it gets subsequently translated into physical tension of muscles and nerve around the area. The physical tension gets interpreted by your mind as negative feelings, and the mind spins in negative thinking thoughts. The solution I have come up with is just witnessing the heart center, turning my attention to the heart as various physical tensions or feelings tend to waft around. I have tried breathing into it, however it is too deliberate, too strong, and tends to suppress not dissolve the pain away. So to witness and to not attach interpretations of the pain, not to label it, turning it into a kind of meditation on the heart, is how the solution works. But alas this is only a temporary ointment to a larger problem, which I have mentioned, is selfishness, and the general use of your heart only for fear and greed, instead of higher emotions. In summary, I think this is far from opening the heart center as some have mentioned, but it is closer to discovering the pain of existence of an unenlightened human, and localizing a key source of the pain, a place where subtle energy body interfaces with the physical body.

I am going to address the topic of deep trance, so that we can form educated opinions about what it is versus typical (somnabulistic state) hypnosis, why hypnotherapists avoid deep trance, and why it may be helpful for spiritual seekers. When a subject reaches a state of deeper trance, Esdaile and below, they are no longer responsive to suggestion in the same way. Their mind is hyper-aware, but they are also aware of how good they feel in the deep state so they tend to disregard whatever instructions the therapist give unless its something they completely agree with at the time. In deep states communication is more of a negociation. These deep states are useless from a typical hypnotherapy perspective, except for pain-control, such as dental hypnosis because in deep trance you are numb to pain stimuli. Deep states of hypnosis are also used in the field of "metaphysical hypnosis", which is a kind of experimental and based on getting in contact with your higher mind for reasons of self-healing, healing others over a distance, enlightenment, life problem solving, and various other metaphysical topics. What I'd like to stress here is that key for deep states is the subject does the work themselves, and the hypnosis is only meant to guide them to this higher mind state, or states, and up to them and their higher mind to decide if there is any benefit. Metaphysical hypnosis is not lucrative or well researched because people pay therapists to solve mundane problems, yet I personally have had good results from deep trance, leading to a "samadhi" or temporary enlightened state that lasted about 10 days. The mind-to-mind healing research is about putting one person into a higher mind state, and allowing that superior, extra-body consciousness diagnose and heal another. This is something that the Sichort and Ramey were experimenting with, as well as Gerald Kein in ultra-height.

I would argue that the "regular" hypnotic state and deep trance states are quite different There is little research on deep trance states, as they tend be more rare, a little more hit-and-miss, as you see with Sichort's research. There are perhaps many levels of consciousness that we are unaware of in this material plane that we may accidentally somehow access by deliberately plumbing our minds via hypnotic inductions. We can look at hypnosis as a tool or a process, just as meditation is a tool or process, and both can open up areas of mind, that even though the state is temporary, can have a sticky or lasting effect on one's waking consciousness. We may be able to unlock some hidden capacities or abilities just by attaining a particular deep state for a little while. At the very least, it can serve as first-hand proof of different states of consciousness other than the mundane. My theory is that even though hypnosis, as TM puts it, fractures consciousness, we can also perhaps instantly repair the fracture through suggestion. Nothing is ever really fractured anyway. I think its a matter of guiding the subject up to a slightly "higher" level of consciousness to where the deep states can be experienced and remembered. Anyway, I will create this deep trance session based on this theory and put it on my youtube channel in the future, and you may message me for the eventual link. I may call it "Hypnosis: deep trance experience: plumbing deep consciousness" or something like that.

These are good questions, and no definitive answer, primarily because people do not agree on what is the meaning of hypnosis, and also "meditation." There are large areas of overlap obviously. But here are my answers: I think that deep meditation differs from deep trance hypnosis in that the general intent of meditation is to keep a single-pointed focus, whether it be repetitive mantra, noting, or breath etc. This tends to "clear the slate" of the mind until it becomes automatic, and when a person goes deeper into subconscious mind, towards alaya (deeper level) mind, this automatic slate clearing programming continues as a sort of auto-pilot. At certain points a person can experience special spiritual altered states, such as velvet blackness, blue, some kind of samadhi state, etc, and maintain a fairly good degree of consciousness, so you can experience these states as if you were there in an alternate world. In summary, the key to meditation is that ongoing repetition (of noting, breath, etc.) and intent to continue that meditation even as you start to move to the edge of your consciousness. Because normally, when we move to the edge of consciousness, a kind of babbling dreamscape comes along: words, pictures, (known as vritti) scenarios drag us into dream or unconsciousness. Only by relaxing, surrendering and a thin mental tenaciousness, letting go, but still holding onto the meditation can you proceed deeper. In contrast, hypnosis does not emphasize being conscious. Hypnosis is a quicker access to deep states because your intent is to allow yourself to let go and go deeply as possible, you don't have to maintain any one-pointed focus as you arrive at the gates of subconscious and dreaming. But you do have to have an external voice guiding you, and they must know what will work. In ultra depth, or even in a fairly good state of hypnosis, you can just zonk out, and will not have recollection of any deep states that you experienced, similar to not remembering what went on in dreams or other states of sleep. I hope you do find some more references and people working with deep states of hypnosis. I took the ultradepth course with James Ramey (RIP), but I haven't checked lately to see if anyone has been working on this.

Throughout all my years with Kundalini, I've come to the point of narrowing it down to 2 simple guidelines, for life, work, lifestyle, friends, partners, investments, etc: 1. Simplify and and do not complicate. When in doubt go towards what brings peace. 2. Go towards people whose energy makes you feel good, and away from people whose energy messes yours up. These seem quite easy to follow, but they are also easy to forget.

No matter what you do, in a very short time you will end up as a handful of dust, as we all will.

How about start with gettting deeper into vispassana? Why is it that when we find something that works for us we get greedy for something else?

Audio waves are the pathway. Video is a pathway. You supply the intent. Of course you must have that power or ability or it wont work very well, (similar to being able to move your fingers). So either you train that ability or are somehow bestowed it, or were born with it. My teacher said it was possible so I tested the hypothesis a few years back, and it seemed to work with a video recording.

Whenever the opportunity comes up, I tend to reinvent the word "faith" for people as well. This is only because I discovered it to be a useful way in to a higher, more connected state. But I have discovered that one needs no particular object to have faith in, only to put the state on like clothing. Once you understand that the object or set of beliefs is actually a throw away part of what faith is about, that it was all about your inner consciousness along, not all the exterior jazz, you can really start to work with faith. Faith evaporates the ego and connects you right into whatever scene you may have around you. A state of faith may have some trance-like qualities, such as a sense of well-being, perhaps an outward confidence in movements due to a lack of conscious mind interference. Maybe it becomes less trance-like and more like an awakened state as one's own Understanding grows.

You perhaps should be able to feel it moving if you are able to distinguish the hair-like nature.

Cultivating the heart center is my major practice, and it has developed as I have developed more sensitivity to the heart center. Here I mean the energetic plexus, that although is all that nice stuff mentioned in the quote, is covered with a thick jungle of knots. It is the heart center that much of the habits of ego are somehow lodged. I have found that by paying attention to the emotional and energetic shifts of the heart center you can gain a much better understanding of your ego, and release some of that deeply buried "blockages". As your thoughts wander here and there, there is always an emotional communication from the heart center, generally in a form of negative feelings, such as lack, fear, greed, self-preservation. Most of our thoughts are ego-centric. Even if you switch to love, awe, appreciation, compassion, trust, etc, the knots will still remain because weve spent our entire lives unconsciously creating the knots and they are strong. This is why mindfulness of heart center is an invaluable practise.

Post a photo of the kind that you want. There are many things that monks wear classified as robe.

Tummo practice is quite blissfull. Heart chakra type practices are blissfull. (love, gratitude, faith, etc) I guess both take a certain amount of time to get these practices to the point where energetic bliss is obvious, lasting.

Good description. I can add that kindness, or compassion, that heart feel taps into a strong field of energy. Its more difficult to practice because the stony heart does not want to change. There is serious resistance from our own selfishness habitual state of being. Emptiness is a kind of retreating, wheras kindness intent is engaging, though you dont actually have to engage with other people's egos. The level of kindness intent does not mean pandering to other people's egocentric desires, so it doesnt necessarily lead to boyscout acts of kindness. Because you see others as really just fooling around wrapped up in selfish desires 100% of the time, but helping them out to pursue selfish ends doesn't make sense. So regular people may not notice your loving kindness, because for them friendliness is about conventional smiles, chit chat, gifts, favors etc. Loving kindness or heart chakra engaging practices are inherently blissful. You discover how to engage your heart chakra on your own, not necessarily through some practice, but out of a kind of necessity because as one advances down the path, mundane pleasures get muted and regular selfish emotions get turned up in volume to a kind of torturous level. Something the kabbalists call "the revelation of evil" which is all your personal junk with nowhere to hide. In this mine field, a blissful loving kindness, giving type of emotional state is at least going to give you respite, and where kundalini or God is pushing you to go. edit: Just to add, the "wonder" or awe, I would call enraptured state. Like the face of Ramana or the paintings of El Greco. Just another flavor of a higher state, basically the same thing.

Mortifying is a legitimate practice to lessen attachment to the body including the constant desire for comfort. Make sure that you understand the philosophy, and its not so you can be proud that you did some whacked out practice in the name of progress. Pain practices make your body secrete endorphins so you get high, but are you making progress? You must understand spiritual joy and notice the difference between that and body chemical high.

Possible that on a deeper level TM invited the situation of getting hit, giving her opponent a kind of alibi to lure her to strike. Why? in order for that delicious ego-feeling of hurt and righteous indignation, a moral high ground where the ego gains licence to create all sorts of defensive and offensive stories for future use, or to replay a past drama. Possible that Taomeow therefore hit herself. But no matter what the reaction, one can utilize it for spiritual progress, similar to CT's "trained mind" but without the idealism, just gritty, shameful hurt trapped under layers of metaphor, needing a strong impetus to get to a higher level.

Interesting is how Buddha and Buddhists tend to say that good deeds are the true measurement of morality because deeds do not lie. Yet Kabbalists say the opposite: people mostly do good deeds for egotistical or false reasons (fame, make themselves feel good, curry favour, get something for themselves). It is the heart that does not lie. Upon further analysis, we see that Buddha's message in this case was for a less sophisticated group, because they do not examine the heart, but rather just want people to build positive habits, in a clearly observable way. Kabbalist teachings really break down how people can be deluding themselves, because the Kabbalist core method is to generate a selfless heart of "love others as self." Ive read over Liao Fan's teachings several times already, and I conclude its more of a "skillful means" folk teaching that promises lay people that they can get lots of material realm success by racking up good karma. Its not much of a guide to isolating and getting rid of bad habits and behaviors, but more of a motivation to do so, not exactly for spiritual attainment but for ease in manifesting abundance. That said, the Buddhist commentators do mention that the goal is spiritual liberation and a moral and pure heart

The real question is why sincere and good people sometimes get poverty, short life, no imperial positions, no sons, even the gas chamber. All that while understanding that speaking the truth and behaving sincerely accords with the will of heaven, and knowing that doing good deeds and eliminating one's faults is in harmony with enlightened beings. If you can answer that, (without resorting to the past life karma explanation, because Liao Fan indicates that you can change your destiny of this lifetime) I would be grateful.