de_paradise
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April, I like the way your mind works. In my opinion and experience, the desire/quest for siddhi powers can be a very good motivation for what will eventually result in K awakening. Also the years of K cleaning when motivation to practise wanes, this provides a carrot. My general opinion is that any motivation that leads to spirtual awakening is good motivation. Now we see that in history some teachers warn us against this kind of motivation, and we see also people generally copying this viewpoint without really questioning it, nor having had any experience with K or siddhi. These people form a kind of out-of-historical-context thought police who kind of throw the baby out with the bathwater. They think that people who want siddhi will necessarily get stuck on them. Thats only true for some, not others. And in this day and age with wifi devices and jet planes, siddhi are not such a big deal, not this great power that will corrupt. In the old days, a siddhi would perhaps have been more of a great thing. I suppose I have more of a Mencius' view of people morally speaking, we are good. We are also self-adjusting in order to find moral balance. If you can trust yourself with a loaded gun, or a loaded penis, why cant you trust yourself with a siddhi? Its obvious that the main game is what we call enlightenment. If a person practises for 3 years and stumbles into a siddhi, they will get bored of it soon enough and keep going. My final arguement is that people capable of carrying 2 motivations at once, its not a zero-sum game. For example, a martial artist wants learn how to beat the shit out of an agressor but also cultivate themselves spiritually, 2 goals one practise. Another example is a cultivator wants a siddi to be able to see energies in order to diagnose and heal the sick, and also cultivate their own energies. Bingo! We have 2 goals (cultivating enlightenment, siddhi) plus the bonus of doing good for others motivation. This is far, far away from the Hollywood walk through walls to rob a bank. Violence and fear sells movies. We are not mostly Darth Vaders, we are mostly Lukes. But to watch TV, you are sold otherwise...
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Really? My brain went TILT not even a few sentences into that thing, and skipping down a few sentences I went into sensory deprivation. Wow am I on a different vibe or what.
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For cultivators, the conviction or belief of the end result, enlightenment, immortality of some form, and beyond is helpful but not necessary. One could practise on a step by step basis, a small energetic experience should be enough proof that larger energetic experiences are possible. I find most people FAIL to EXTRAPOLATE from their experiences that lead them to the conclusion that cultivation is helpful. (new agers) I often wonder why there are not more cultivators in the world. One should at least test to see if a higher level is possible, because the stakes are so high, like Pascal's wager. The payoff is so great that even if the probability of that immortality or enlightenment exists, and the probability of attainment is slim, it is still worth pursuing that end.
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Kundalini Clarity Videos Tao Semko
de_paradise replied to Upfromtheashes's topic in General Discussion
I am sure these vids will benefit people, and IMO is exactly what the people need. I dont think he's nailed it on the "emotion" category, because many people are emotional for many reasons, depressed, laughing asses off watching stand-up comedy, etc. Thats human existence, so why is this a category for k awakening? Probably the change-in emotional states is closer to the cause of what may fire off kundalini, and there are likely other preconditions that make certain emotional situations more effective. If we were to analyse why secret smile works, I would say that the tapping into the specific (higher level) emotions that it does whilst in an alpha state is the driver. -
Great SF Jane, love it. However people generally dont take advice unless it corresponds to what they already are incline to do, and he is inclined to pine over her. Welcome to the human drama. You are a broken heart in the making boy, she is unconsciously drawing you in and gaining power over you, you go willingly in the hope of possessing her, even when she has foreshadowed what she will do, and yes, untamed people are extremely alluring and addictive. Ha ha. You are screwed. Sorry, just enjoy it man, human existence at its best.
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Facinating experiences, thanks for sharing your (not The) Kunlun story (or, better, beginning). Sorry that 50% of what a person shares in this forum has to be in defence and pre-emptive defence, but look at it this way, it prompted you to be more forthright about yourself and your experiences, and there is good in that. I'm looking forward to your Maoshan post!
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The main run of the sceptics are not "scientists" by any stretch of the imagination, they are merely people who have been programmed to accept current beliefs and to doubt anything not contained in our normative scientific body of knowlege circa 2010. If these sceptics were to do a little due diligence they would encounter a huge amount of documented evidence supporting qi. But believing in qi puts people into huge pickle: If qi existed, then it would make society, including our cleverist scientists, teachers, and medical doctors dithering fools. Also qi is the mother of all pandora's boxes concerning the question of existence and spirituality. If there is qi, and an etheric body, does that not imply layers of existence we are not aware of in this material world. If we start believing in qi, does that mean we have to start believing in all the other Buddhist or Indian guru stuff that seems to go along with it? Egad, it really is too much for an individual to wrestle with.
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Internal Cultivation is a supernormal life style in nature
de_paradise replied to Li Jiong's topic in General Discussion
Yes this really really bothers me. Its clear our consumerist-materialist-kill all the fish in the sea value system is going to end badly when the eco-system gets too out of whack due to all our machinations. Why are humans so stupid? We are behaving like parasites that kills the host. Well anyway, Li Jiong, did you do your own cooking and cleaning, did you live in a little hut with no heat, or a cave where you urinated outside? Ive always dreamt of doing a hermit stage. -
Last couple of days have been incredible energy for both me and my friend on another continent so its probably no coincidence. Anyone else getting majorly rocked? Is someone is pointing a big magnet at the earth and not telling us?
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Ha, its been a few times already now. Here's what my friend described: "Starting yesterday afternoon, my energy hit a level of intensity or at least had some effects even outside the crazy norm. I kept thinking the mother of all storms must be coming, but the weather was clear. On the way to work last night, I was feeling vibratory bliss throughout my body, particularly focused in the area of my heart chakra. At work, I felt I was going to vibrate into another dimension or something, or like the essence of me would suddenly go nebulous, across the universe. Very cool. When I got home from work, some other effects gained ascendancy. My scalp was all mega-itchy and tingly (more than usual), the skin of my arms and upper back was pricklish, tingly, and itchy with waves of sensitivity flowing constantly through it (hard to explain). I just lay on my bed for close to an hour, experiencing the intensity. It felt like a huge magnet was pulling on me. Then I decided to see on the internet if some crazy storm was on its way, or maybe the full moon, which I thought was at the end of the month. No major bad weather on the way, full moon in about 2 weeks. So I went to an Astronomical Events calendar, and discovered that 2 events are imminent: vernal equinox in like 2 or 3 days, and in 6 days Saturn would reach its closest point to the earth for the year. I think this must be Saturn coming, b/c I remember that during some major planetary event last year I started feeling it about 6 days prior. I awoke in the middle of the night, unable to go back to sleep for all the itching and crawling. I lay there, thinking: "Man, this is hell." A healing sore on my finger from an oven burn itched like MAD. I also had a major stabbing itch right inside my hairline on the right side of my head." My own experience is that this energy is different as Ya Mu says. For some reason I think its magnetism, its this all-pervasiveness feature to it. There is a bliss componant, also heightened sexual energy, as I have lost a little jing that last 2 nights, not even dreaming of the act. I dont think this is regualar seasonal or regular planetary; IMO there is something not necessarily benevolent about this force too, like a big wave.
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Yeah, the pop-psyche quiz stands out, but it also reminds me of memes (values classifications) Perhaps there is some underlying truth to the connection between personality and soul age. Of course I'm an old soul, older than the hills: there was just gasses back then. Now we've got this earth and its like, whoa.
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Its kind of boring/awkward to send healing energy through eyes by just staring. Rather pointless if you can send energy with your mind from your baigua, unless you want to look like some staring freaky shaman. Im not sure what socerers vision is, but if its part looking, part visualizing/intending then thats the natural way to go. On sexual energy from women, I tend to note who is sending energy either because they emit lots of sexual from eyes energy naturally (like my ex) or because they are sexually interested, aroused. I guess we all pick up on this subconsciously, but its interesting to compare sexual energy emitting of women of various countries/ages, situations, married or unmarried, etc. etc.
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I like the discipline of weird ancient instructions etched on some pyramid wall to inspire to go the distance. Like other energy practises, intial fears give way to routine.
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I did it from just the written instructions off and on for about one year, and then I found out that I was doing it incorrectly. That didnt bother me because it was a powerful breathing practise anyway, and I realize that in the spiritual game you sometimes have to go toward something with effort so that it can respond. But my general advice is to see the demo
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Don't bother with Sah unless you can have Max demo it for you and you can understand how to do it. If you want to do something powerful and similar, then look up hamsa breath, and I suppose there is more info on that on the net. I have the Harvey book, and its a good read but its not really what Max is getting at in my opinion. Harvey's main thesis is that concentrating on the fovial point (the spot where 3rd eye is energetically located) is a quick path to awakening, kind of a running through the various Buddhist samadhi states. Harvey likely does not have the siddhi that accompany the meditation, but he does appreciate the potential. He just doesnt have all the info, and we suppose Max does. But Mr. Kunlunenthusiast, you are wiser to have more patience because enthusiasm quickly turns to frustration. Its so funny, I see this again and again to see the most enthusiastic turn sour. Its quite predicitable even.
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Agreed that often people expect something from meditation like improved eyesight or erasing bad memories, and thats the wrong approach. But I find this guy wishy washy on the other hand, like new agers who tell you to "just be", just be in the now man. They dont appreciate that mediation is technology and working with energies, there are many forms, most of them with nothing to do with fully engaging the moment of exterior life, its serious business. Its people like Hagen that lead people astray by blurring the boundaries between doing nothing and actively meditating. Now we have the situation where many spiritually inclined people believing that meditating in earnest, with effort, is the wrong way to go.
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Max Christensen Interview by James Gilliland
de_paradise replied to Mantra68's topic in General Discussion
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Hi Birch, You seem like such a thoughtful person. In my previous comment, the difference I tried to suggest is not emotional or unemotional, although there is that important element. I was suggesting to get more in touch with the energies that happen due to the compassionate thoughts. Certain thoughts create special energies, and it just so happens that a very powerful thought is the giving-sacrificing-offering kind of thought. If you want to extend the power of this practise, then I suggest watching your own thoughts and energies very closely so that you can find the "hot button" where you may actually feel the result, that is to say, you may feel an energy shift, or a feeling of well being. This is not just in order to feel good, but so that your body will translate and use that energy to clear your chi channels, open knots, etc-this happens automatically. All we need to do is push the hot button so to speak, by generating the thoughts and feelings, and your body (energy body) will do the rest. When we think of words, there is also underlying pictures and relations created deep in our minds. When we want to generate a certain feeling, of gratitude, for example, during meditation, we can create little scenarios such as feeling grateful standing before your mother (for example). The trick in contemplation-type meditations is to find which combination of thoughts and feelings generate the best strongest result. This is called going deeper into the meditation/contemplation. @Lucky 7. The cultivation practise of doing good things/egoless behavior/compassion, and doing these kind of contemplations is not the same as what you are suggesting, which is some kind of ideal-Buddha-spontaneously always overbrimming with compassion. What I am talking about is the day to day practise that can help further ones spiritual attainment, the hard everyday decision stuff. Its best make this distinction and not confuse the two, because I find they are often confused by people who just read books on enlightenment and havent the experience, they talk about ideals and how high level people act, not having experience themselves. I am aware there is the energetic paths to acheive the high level purification that you mention, but this is not same issue as the sadhana that Birch Tree is talking about. This brings to mind why Durkhrod says talk is confusing. People visit these threads and their minds are on different pages, and we end up with such a mishmash of misplaced emphasis, misunderstandings, stuff taken of context, etc.
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I agree with Durkhrod's take on things. To add about the "offerings to sentient beings", well that sounds pretty jargonistic. We are talking about doing good things in general, and in meditation we are re-creating the sympathetic kind of feeling you get when you do something for someone else or act not for your own benefit. It is that feeling that you want, because way under your conscious awareness, that feeling and little pictures in your mind is linking up with higher spiritual energies that help advance you, help transform you. Mahayana Buddhists have of course ritualized this, and then handed it down as a ritual. It is simply one way to make spiritual progress, and obviously not necessary. But if it works, why not do it? It is effective to be looking for the feeling-state in which you notice an energetic shift or blissy kind of shift in yourself: notice the kind of pictures you are making in your mind to represent all beings, notice the feeling as you think about offering and helping. I think just obeying the ritual "ok now I am offering this meditation to all sentient beings" is a bit cold and removed, good for first graders, but you can do better.
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I've done thought blocking meditations, and find its quite good as well. After an hour of vigilance, your mind stays very quiet on its own. There are several levels of what constitutes a thought, but I guess we are talking about the conscious mind nattering to itself about whatever concerns you have. Those should not be "noticed" per se, but turned off through discipline IMO. Because the thoughts that arise on their own, more subconscious variety, such as a thought of some random stuff not even in your own voice--like a female English accented voice talking about peonies and tulips--those thoughts can be blocked too. But here's the real deal: you let those kind go on a little bit, and then note them, as is vispassana noting, or what I do is just label it as "mind" (no-self) What happens is a kind of qi acceleration and a tugging downwards. I think its using the sleep mechanism as a way to get to a deeper meditation state, but whatever the mechanism is, its extremely helpful.
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Preparing for the time your current body will cease to function (death) is by no means not living fully in this life. I get this line very very often in criticism to my suggestion to people that they should meditate more because life is short and in the big picture (eternity) its not much of a sacrifice. You'd think these people spend all their time doing peak experiences like hand-gliding over the Andes, thats the picture that they want to give--but its not true.
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Fake gurus or semi-fake gurus, or real but immoral gurus is extremely relevent for this board because we can actually critically review a person with some degree of insight about siddhis, etc., comparing to the spiritually uninitiated who tend to throw out the baby with the bathwater in the name of scepticism. Lashing out at Drew only makes me wonder what your complexes are Songs, as it could be great learning experience for you too as it has revealed a weakness. Are you hurt that the title is associated with India and hurts Indians pride?
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Westerners are accreditation fanatics, and this doesnt suit the nebulous world of cultivation attainments. The most common criticism on a teacher who sets up shop and isnt carrying a piece of signatured parchment is that they have no lineage with the assumption that that makes the teacher inferior. Now obviously that may or may not be true, but the sheeple, or the sleeple would prefer hold their rule in their minds that doesnt force themselves to critically decide for themselves. Many low end schools, frauds, and degree mills continuously cash in on this fact, just by offering people what they want: an official piece of paper. I can give you an example of a high level healing qigong guy who offered to cure a person of their AIDS "Where's your accreditation?" "Dont have one, sorry "You see, even the guys life depended upon it, he still held to his rule that only externally validated healers are real. On this forum, remember how both Max of Kunlun and Santiago of KAP were both criticized and lumped in with charlatans due to lineage accreditations, because certain people can only hold the rule in their mind that tells them to sleep and let others decide.