Disabled Not Broken

Surya Namaskar is a great stretching routine which you can recieve enromous benefit from....i should know i do several salutations every morning...however, for me personally although it is a routine that promotes great flexibility and health....it did not allow me to fully get into full lotus without pain in my knees.

 

From what little experience i have with sitting in Full lotus for a few minutes....i can say it effortlessly brings you into a deeper meditative state than any other position i have tried.

 

I plan on integrating some of these hip stretches into my Sun Salutations so i can eventually get there, but for now its Burmese for me . Thanks for the post DB. Interesting albeit a bit cryptic...as usual.

 

-My 2 cents, Peace

Thanks brother

 

If you stretch alittle past the intended asana, then the Full Lotus is easier on the knees

Bromelaine tablets help too [i'm old as dirt lol]

Great Poem DNB

 

Full Lotus is wonderful.

 

Do those hip stretches people, as the position pays for the effort to get it, many times over...

Thank you brother

 

`since my Kundalini cooked and fired up in 1991, every few years I experience cycles of high weirdness

 

last couple of years, I been 'receiving' [channeled like Crowley's 'Book of the Law"] huge amounts of 'teachings'

I `m trying do full lotus, unfortunatley I have to stretch my muscles a lot more to do it

 

I have to say it again brother, and sorry for repeating this: Great thread. Every time I enter to this forum, the first thing I check is if there is a new thread from you.

 

Regards.

Thanks brother

 

it is worth the stretch

 

sitting @ the root, by passes a lot, `legs, etc

 

energy - magnetic- is set right at the groin in Full Lotus

 

is also how one levitates..

No disrespect intended to any Magick people here but is it stupid for me to doubt the legitimacy of Magick practices in the West versus Oriental practices because the Western ones seem like something made up or mashed together? Granted a lot of Eastern practices are fusions of different things but the lineages seem longer and more continuous than the Magick traditions.

All of it... is Yoga

 

Something that began to bother me about chaos magic in general is that it tends to descend into dilettantism fairly quickly. It is my opinion that one's depth of experience within a paradigm is what will generate the results. As a wise man once said: "if you are looking for water in the desert it is better to dig one deep well than many shallow holes."

 

Paradigm shifting is all well and good but without a deep understanding of each paradigm it becomes nothing more than New Age eclecticism. A Huna ritual one week. A Shamanic Soul retrieval another week. Ad infinitum. To me this sends a confusing message to the subjective mind and waters down the results.

 

 

Bingo!

OldGreen, to me thats, Um... Stupid?

 

Lol, sorry to sound flippant, but there are many many 'stupid' magicians out there, with all their really 'informed' opinions. Many of them rarely practice what they dis, and probably rarely practice anything.

 

Some have just bought a particular traditions dogmas {the one they ascribe to} and like regular church goers, don't really think outside of that.

 

Can you yourself think of multiple cases of possible Rituals that are not Black Magick? I can.

 

Many rituals are purely to set space to Honour and connect with Natural forces, some are to transform the Magician, some are to help one familiarise oneself with the subtle realms, some are to work change of 'good' or 'eeevviiiillll'!!!

 

Indeed- Intention paints/taints the color of the magick

 

I can have- 2 white candles

 

I can heal someone, with one

 

and maim someone else, with the other white candle

 

Io Kaos 156/93

I have heard of no western traditions producing anything meaninful from their students or their "masters".

 

No sense in wasting your time on a practice if no one ever has gotten any meaninful results from it.

 

Just my $0.02

 

"They"... say a lot of things..

 

If you would have asked me, I would have told you something completely opposite

 

best way to find out?

 

Do it

come man Western Tradition is not Ritualistic Magic , it called ceremonial Magic!

 

The difference between Ritual Magic and ceremonial Magic ( as Kabalah ) , is that in ceremonial there is Evocation and invocation .

Opposed the Ritual Magic can be Nature Magic .

Initiation into Hermetics is a great book from a great magus .

 

Disabled Not Broken when you said Egregores you mean Creating Magickal Entities ???

That's i understand !

 

"Hands on Chaos Magic" is a great book and it can make magick to actual

work !

Servitors are entity creations- but they can be fed via egregore current/streams... deliberately-- or not

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

awww sorry i couldnt buy into your bs. I wasnt trying to argue with you. I would have gladly told you what i know if you didnt act like a know it all. I have talked to different elemental practitioners who have taught me quite a few new things.

 

you should come off of your high horse and be open to exchange and different ideas.

 

if you didnt know of element dim mak you could have aksed about it and i would have told you about it oh well.

 

I tried to teach you

 

You rather confuse yourself with cartoon and Hollywood air bending

 

I really don't care what you do- but don't do it on my thread, because I am trying to teach people

 

You are highly delusional, and your energy is diseased with mental illness... so I won't continue onward

You need to cross the anger bridge and come to friendship shore.

 

Why get so personal?

 

I'm trying to engage you intelectually that is all.

 

You are somebody so am I.

 

Do me a favour and just listen to some people who have dedicated their academic careers to Merlin and Arthur.

 

You'll love it. It'll change your whole world!

 

I guess you're not going to do that. You'll be poorer for it.

 

I'm out. Good luck with your life friend.

 

I really do wish you well.

 

No, you're a troll.

 

I don't get angry with trolls... anger equates with feeding energy

 

You're a parasitical vampyre

 

Contributing nothing to this forum, and leeching off of other's coat tails for attention

 

You got called on it- I had you're intention figured out, along time ago --while you were giving others a hard time on their threads

 

The viewers on the forum know this to be truth

 

I post here to teach

 

You come here to feed for attention

 

Obviously you are missing out on the big picture in life

oh by the way this would be element dim mak pretty similar to dim mak but introducing element chi for element chi has its own properties in and of it self.

 

Now when you do element healing you are sublimenting the chakra that is low on that element chi and there is a way you can test for this to know which element is needed. Once introduced into the proper chakra the element will heal on its own.

 

Element healing works on a few levels physical mental and spiritual

 

No such thing as "Element dim mak" lol

 

and AGAIN...

 

chi is NOT an element

I am kind of surprised a moderator hasn't stepped in, or someone..

 

obvious troll violations going on

Open your mind.

 

Listen to this. http://www.bbc.co.uk...rammes/p003k9j2

 

Come back and debate.

 

Until then, I ask you politely to stop posting such delusional fantasies.

 

You, in my opinion

 

are nobody

 

I will continue to post, whatever, and whenever, I choose to

 

Should a moderator- or the majority of viewers, here- tell me they don't like my stuff... then I will stop posting

 

until then, not a chance

I'm trying to sober you up.

 

You never address my points.

 

Arthur had nothing to do with this Pagan hocum.

 

He's clearly a Christian/Empirical figure.

 

I am going to make a suggestion to the moderators that witchcraft/neo-paganism or whatever you call it, is given its own stem.

 

The Front page, to THIS FORUM, says:

 

 

 

 

and i explained to you how i use the term so lets move on please answer my question.

 

I'm done.

Done with you and mrtiger

 

Fruitful discussion, always welcome- by responsible adults, from now on...

 

I was hoping for educational debate- instead you turned it into mudslinging

 

sorry- not my style

 

 

 

Anyone?

Im not angry please Master disabled not broken,

 

Please start us of into the topic of elemental martial applications.

 

Now this goes 3 fold

 

you can interrupt their elemental chi flow

you inject your elemental chi into them to have a certain effect

and you can cast elemental spells on them.

 

you can use all 3 or a combination of them together.

 

Now a master of your caliber should be able to answer all of this.

 

I already explained to you- 1 page back [or was it 2 pages back?] that "chi is NOT an element, nor is it an elemental"

 

I'm glad to see you and mrstiger. have worked together as a team now lol

You say Arthur is a Daoist.

 

You want him to be a Daoist. I think you've just invented this for your own amusement.

 

You want people to congratulate you for your profound insights.

 

But you've just made this fantasy up out of thin air.

 

Why?

 

Really why do you invent this hogwash?

 

lol I answered you back 3 pages ago

 

But here's an idea

 

if you don't like 'my hogwash'... maybe others do?

 

how about not clicking on my threads, anymore?

 

and if a moderator thinks my threads are hogwash- they can delete them...

 

how's that for a good idea?

 

I have noticed, though - you have Never contributed anything useful to this forum

 

you only go on other's threads- and troll

 

-just an observation on my part

you still posted no fact and i didnt make this fucking retarded thread man you did. You could have just asked what i was talking about but instead of just asking like a sane human being you acted like an ass.

 

So tell me something that you know because your the type of guy who wont post any real knowledge but will talk shit on someone else. So im asking you to post something that most people here would not know about element stuff that cant be found in a book.

 

should be simple for you right. i know i can because i didnt learn this stuff from a book. unlike you.

 

Stop getting angry... too much element fire over load &

you can't control it.

right you post bs man. You dont post facts. You have no real experience with element training you have no real knowledge at all so lets test it. First tell me how to make an element charm.

 

and i use the term elemental interchangeable just to refer all things that do with elements.

 

You never proved me wrong on anything.

 

Im still waiting man teach us something about the elements that you know that cant be found in a bardon book.

 

Im still waiting man teach us something about the elements that you know that cant be found in a bardon book.

 

if you had simple common sense, you'd realise you're making a total fool out of yourself- by now

If i know element magic and martial applications and can give empowerments why would you think that i dont know that.

 

To be honest your the uneducated one here. Please teach me something that you didnt learn from bardon....

 

dont worry i have time. I can wait.

 

you are immature

 

calling names?

 

you can't stand up to my defense, to your initial attacks

 

I'm done talking to you, 'chi elemental master'

I know that too. Stop assuming.

over and over- you say you have 'chi elemental' powers

 

you don't know anything

 

you got called on it

 

now you're back tracking

 

I have proved over and again, you really are clueless

I know what an elemental is its just a typo kid calm down.

 

you have used elemental interchangeably with element in other threads also- you didnt know the difference until I just told you..

 

kid?

 

throwing insults?-- I thought you are a 'special elemental master', though?

bending and willing seems anti taoist anti flow to be honest.

 

Heres more or less heres how it works. I dont bend elemental chi i have elemental chi stored in me. and by having this stored elemental chi strengthens that element in me. I can manifest my own water fire air or earth chi that i stored. Now when i do this since at the time of manifestation i am connecting to the element in me and bringing it out so in turn i will also start to connect to that element in nature as well. Since im bringing my own earth chi out and controlling it the immediate earth chi surrounding me will follow this flow as well.

 

A natural connection to the elements will build and strengthen over time. But your control and use of the elements in the world is directly proportional to the strength and flow of your own elemental chi.

 

Qintessence- 5 elements- Spirit being the 5th element

 

chi is not the 5th element

nor is chi, any element

 

shen/spirit is the Quintessence

 

you have no clue

Sigh....

 

You have to have a teacher to know your learning the real thing. Making an element bend to your will? that doesnt seem quite correct either.

 

The elements are powerful and have their own distinct nature. I have to learn fire first before i can use it right. if you do elemental training wrong you can hurt your self and others around you.

 

The job of an elemental practitioner is to build up and strengthen and balance their own elemental chi and do so for other people in nature.

 

The elements have a physical and spiritual nature as well. You can use the elemental training to push storms away and all of that good stuff. But you have to know what large amounts of air and earth chi will do to a storm environment will do.

 

The elements if not balanced in great proportion can kill. If you have way to much fire chi that is not balanced in you it can cause heart problems high blood pressure and so.

 

The elements are very powerful very pure and very raw. If you had the correct training you would know that it is nothing to mess with or play around with.

 

My choice hmmm...

 

Well i know alot about elemental training so id love to hear what you know

 

You are NOT getting any of your 'teachings' from a reputable source.

 

You telling me I am not a Daoist, was your first error.

 

You have no clue about me, nor about anyone else.

 

You can't walk up to a stranger and tell them their path is not 'the way' [that's what Dao actually means].. because it doesn't fit your description.

 

You can do that in christianity, tell a pentacostal he is not a christian because you're a baptist and think you're better.

 

The Dao means something to everyone- there are no limits, nor box to fit the Dao inside.

 

If you have no idea what Daoism is, you are not going to understand Daoist Sorcerery.

 

Sigh....

 

 

The elements are very powerful very pure and very raw. If you had the correct training you would know that it is nothing to mess with or play around with.

 

My choice hmmm...

 

Well i know alot about elemental training so id love to hear what you know

 

Now you throw around this secret knowledge you have, and try to back it up with mystical fear and ''nothing to mess around it''

 

No, I am not going to explain all I know to someone like you who pretends they know it all.

 

If you have a direct question, I will be glad to discuss it.

 

Just because I am nice and post a lot of info in an altruistic manner, does not mean you can try to make a fool out of me.

 

My original premise stands- you have no clue what you are talking about.

 

 

The origins of the words witch and Wicca is that they are derived from "wic," which means to shape or bend.

 

This means... simply:

 

ALL WITCHES, MAGICKIANS, SORCERERS, WIZARDS ARE BENDERS. THEY BEND.

 

MAGICK IS BENDING... TO CONFORM TO THE WILL

 

First you say you need a master to learn to bend

 

Then you say there's no such thing as bending

 

Now you have a lot of elemental training

 

Elemental is NOT element

An elemental is the personification of the element

a mermaid is an elemental

the water is the actual element

 

shut off the TV and pick up a book before you challenege someone like me

 

I told you, before- stop with the attitude or I will allow you to look ignorant