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Here are two excerpts from my two books. Feel free to share the files with your firends. Excert from Tao Te Ching: An Ultimate Translation: Book_Translation_Preview_2013_May_17a.pdf Excerpt from The Logic of Tao Philosophy: Wayne- 75 replies
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I have added one more day (June 2, 2013) for free download. Even if you have downloaded the previous copy on May 1, please download again this revised one.- 75 replies
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Free Kindle Book (The Logic of Tao Philosophy) on June 1-2, 2013
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My new book (The Logic of Tao Philosophy) has been revised (improved). The Kindle version will be free for anyone to download on June 1 and 2, 2013. The Kindle book may be read on any computer and many tablets. (You can download Knidle Reader from www.amazon.com and install on your computer.) You may search under the book title. Only the Kindle book is free. Hope you will enjoy it. The logic is common in many Eastern philosophies. -
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I have re-edited my book "The Logic of Tao Philosophy" and will publish it in Kindle again. This revised version has gpne through 2 weeks of work and should be must better than before. You can done get the book free from Amazon Kindle store again on June 1, 2013. Tell your friends about it. I think this book will help understanding the Tao Te Ching. Search under my name: Wayne L. Wang or the book title. Any question may be posted here.- 75 replies
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Wu and Yu are stable in the two sub-domains; Heng Wu and Heng Yu are stable in the whole domain. In the actualization process, we may say that Wu is actualized into Heng Wu, by the complement of Yu. Some "boundaries" fade in Heng Yu and some "boundaries" appear in Heng Wu. I shall just use "Reality" for Tao. Even "reality" is ill defined. I am re-working my book on The Logic and will make it free again in the near future.- 75 replies
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These words are useful only if we try to define the philosophical model. If we use them, we have to define them carefully, otherwise, we cannot get their relationship right. If we use them, we have to clearly define them. Different people may use them in different ways, it is ok if they define them clearly.- 75 replies
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Figure 3 The Harmonization Process [click to magnify] In the model, the objects are harmonized by their interactions to become the actualities. We may show this harmonization process or the actualization process in Fig. 3. In this Figure, Wu and Yu are harmonized by their interactions to become the actualities Heng Wu and Heng Yu. We treat the actualities and the objects as concepts. Wu and Yu are harmonized by their interactions to become the actualities Heng Wu and Heng Yu. The objects are our simplified concepts and the manifestations (actualities) are more complicated concepts. The simple concepts, <Wu> and <Yu>, are interconnected by their interactions, so they are not stable (or true). These objects are harmonized to become the “stable” actualities <Heng Wu> and <Heng Yu>. The result is [Click]- 75 replies
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Here is the structure of Chapter 1 of the Tao Te Ching (from The Logic of Tao Philosophy) Figure 1 Basic Architecture of Tao Philosophy [Click to open] In this Figure, the bold-faced terms within the thick-lined boxes are the terminology used by Lao-tzu in Chapter 1. Here, Heng Tao represents the absolute reality under discussion. The fundamental characteristic of this reality is the Oneness in “Tao begets One, or Tao brings Oneness into being道生一” [Ch. 42]. This is also the nameless. For Lao-tzu, the myriad things in the phenomenal world are named. The important observation is that there is also reality in the phenomenal world. Therefore, we should describe Tao at two levels. The entities (Heng Wu and Heng Yu) at the Manifestations level are realistic and the objects (Wu and Yu) at the Object levels are not realistic, but are convenient entities to describe the manifestations. We also use the term actualities for these manifestations in our formal model. The three levels are three ways we can discuss the same Tao. It is important to note that Tao philosophy recognizes the phenomenal world as a valid way of describing Tao. Lao-tzu does not deny the world as illusion and without reality.- 75 replies
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See if this is a larger picture. Click on it- 75 replies
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Rene, That is also the way I use duality. When we separate the manifestations of Tao into two opposites Wu and Yu. Wu and Yu could be any two opposites (yin and yang, body and mind, left-brain and right brain, etc.) . Call them the objects. In reality, these two are correlated (interact, in physics) so they become inter-mixed as in the Tai Chi. The Tai chi states (Heng Wu and Heng Yu) are the actual manifestations of Tao. [click on the picture to magnify it] Now, the problem of Nonduality. Tao itself is One, so it is nondual. How about Heng Wu and Heng Yu? They are whole (to be real, they must be whole, per our friend Hegel). Here is the myestery of Tao. There are two manifestation and each is a whole. They are also "equivalent" representations of Tao. There is no real separation of Wu and Yu in "Heng Wu" and "Heng Yu," so they are the "nondualistic" manifestations of Tao. I have cakked them "Dualistic Realities" May be "Nondualistic realities" is a better name.- 75 replies
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I will check these references. I have The Tao and the Logos, will find some time to revist it. My interpretation of knowledge and wisdom is reversed, according to Lisa Raphals translation (in her table). Shankman interprets the first chapter (Wu Yu and You Yu) in the traditional way, which I think is incorrect due to the meaning of Heng. He uses Wang Bi's version that Nameless (Wu ming) is the beginning of heaven and earth. I use Mawangdui for that verse. A lot of good papers there. [i read from amazon]. Thank for your discussions.- 75 replies
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The model turns out to be so similar to "The Theory of Forms" of Plato. He must have figured it out already, but may have been interpreted in many ways. I am leaving that as another project. The basic models for many philosophical discussions are similar, but they do not use Figures. I am used to figures to keep the concepts straight for myself. Here is my basic model:- 75 replies
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You must have done a lot. I hope you can share. I will go to your site. I haven't updated my site (www.dynamictao.com) for many years. In my model, quantum physics ( or all physics) is at the object level, where you maintain the objects and their interactions to describe the "reality." So you have "particle" and "wave" and "entanglement of objects" etc. Lao-tzu tries to maintain the actual level (with realities), so there is no attachments to the objects. However, Lao-tzu still have to use objects to describe the actualities. That is why I say that he is not really against using objects (words) to describe Tao. It is well established that we are hampered by our language. Even in quantum theory, we still don't have words for "particle with some wave property." So call it "wavicle." But it is not a word. If that is a word, how about "partclave???" So quantum is also stuck in words.- 75 replies
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It is wonderful to see you here. I have your interesting book. Aristic and philosophical. I like the name "Ambigram" for the Tai Chi diagram.
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Ambigram is a good name for it. I will check it. How do we draw two universes connected through worm holes?- 75 replies
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Most people will agree with your interpretations. If it helps, there is no reason to change. I happend to have a different view now. I just share the simple way to arrive at the logic structure that has helped me. If we remove Chapter 1 of the Tao Te Ching, the logic structure still stands. So, it may not be important how we interpret Chapter 1 (Heng Wu, etc.) after we understand his logic. We can still see the logic in other chapters.- 75 replies
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Glad that you got through a similar process of unifying dualism and nondualism. To me, it was the whole story. That is why I wrote the article for Tamkang Journal and the present books. I feel that most people are ready. The idea is not new. We can start from Parmenides (but he was quite misunderstood, like Lao-tzu). A more recent one is Schelling. I believe that many others are saying the same thing. It also takes me many, many years to realize that. I believe that is advocated by Lao-tzu, too.- 75 replies
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I will have to review the non-commutative properties of the quatum operators. I am tempering on the idea of looking at many scientific and mathematical agian to see what I think now (with the logic of Tao philosophy). I will check on your blog. It should be interesting.- 75 replies
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I will have to digest your long comments. I am very glad that we have interesting discussions. About "symmetry," the Tai Chi diagram is a special kind of "symmetry" that we need to define in more details. We may call it "bipolar symmetry" or "bipolar asymmetry." It is not a simple symmetry. The logic cannot be represented in the Venn diagram which is two dimensional. I have been trying to find a non-Vennian diagram ( anyone can help?). In physics, we start with a symmetric "Wu" and "Yu", with interactions, we have the Tai Chi diagram, resulting is a "symmetry" that is twisted or connected internally. We all know two equivalent universes connected through the "worm holes". It is that type of symmetry, we have. Anyway, I need a more accurate name for this. Thanks. I will address other points in the next few posts.- 75 replies
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In my interpretation, Wu means "without making differentiation of the myriad things.' That is one way of looking at the myriad things, or "That is one way the principle of Tao works - not to differentiate the myriad things" The second way is the opposite by "making complete differentiation - treating each one differently." But Tao does not treating the myriad things in these two opposite ways. In reality, when Tao treats the myriad things without differentiation, it still sees the myriad things. This is the way of Heng Wu. It is an impartial act which still recognizes the individuals. Same descriptions apply to Yu and Heng Yu. We have a terminology convention here. We may say Heng Wu and Heng Yu are (1) two different manifestations of Tao, (2) different ways that the principle of Tao is manifestated. I look at the different Chapters of the TTC as different ways of describing the principle of Tao, so I try to find how Lao-tzu uses Wu and Yu (or any other two opposites) to describe the principle of Tao. From the way Lao-tzu uses words to describe the principle of Tao, we identify his logic. That is, it is not a blanket sweeping act that ignore the individuals.- 75 replies
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It is so nice that you can spend some time here. I am sure you can contribute and help me honest here. I feel that my new books are pointing to a valid resoluation, but I need to re-work them (Updates are easy to make, since they are eBooks and POD). I hope to get some discussions. That will certainly help in my updates. Wayne- 75 replies
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We may say that there is a "(metaphysical) reailty" this is One (Tao). We use Wu and Yu as well-defined concepts to describe how Tao works, but these two (Wu and Yu) are dualistic, so they can not represent Tao. Therefore Lao-tzu introduces "Heng Wu" and "Heng Yu" as two realistic ways of looking at Tao. That is why I call these two (manifestations of Tao) as the dual realistic representations of Tao. We can look at the world now in these two ways withour losing reality. The reality is the principle of Tao. These two ways are two reasonable ways of looking the principle of Tao. The two manifestations (Heng Wu and Heng Yu) are equal in representing the principle of Tao. These two are not really two, since, as far as representing the reality, they are equal ("ontologically equivalent"). They have the same wholeness of Tao.- 75 replies
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As I have promised a while ago that my new book will be published in May. The Kindle version will be free on May 1, 2013 (California time zone). I have now a version available for download. You do not need a physical Komdle to read it. You can install Kindle on any PC. Go to www.amazon.com and search in Kinle store for the title "The Logic of Tao Philosophy" [Only the Kindle version is free - There is a printed version ( just a caution)] Sorry for the late reminder. I almost miss the deadline for this promise.
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In this case, "Fu" is not the same as the earlier use of "Fu." I would take this one to mean "Because", "The truth is", etc. "The spirit of man prefers tranquility, but is disturbed by our mind." (roughly) Same character with two meanings in two separate use. Both should be valid. .
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This is my take. Very interesting sequences: roughly What is a gentleman (Fu)? Man attains Oneness to have "Significance (Da)"; Significance attains Oneness to become with "Heaven"; Only if it can be beyond Heaven, It is (the word for ) a trule "gentleman." Gentleman -> Fu-tzu ->Sage?