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Sorry Guys Been away for awhile working. Its always been my contention that cutting the cords was something that happened automatically along the path with correct cultivation. Meaning that the lower dantian spins moves and vibrates. If you have the correct training to train the ldt that it will cut the cords it self in time thru its own natural movement. Now what i mean by dantian cultivation is that you train in a system that has valid alchemy that goes pretty deep. Now The great thing about the mo pai is that they are very mechanical. Its not so spontaneous. So there is a technique that you can do to cut the cords and there is a technique to create the inner thunder and so on. So progression can happen really fast. Personally I prefer the spontaneous meth od because its lets it happen natural when it is time for it to happen seems to be less room for error that way. I prefer the methods written about in the Lei Guang ZhenYuan Zhi Zhang

Well i think a large part of the problem is that no one really does any hard research. I mean there are people who pay master lin.....which is crap. There are people who think breathing down to the ldt and holding the breath is high level and that assumption is crap. What is really missing is someone who is from a different lineage that reached a high level that is knowledgable on taoist alchemy give their opinions on mo pai. The other part of the problem is that you have people that has very little time training in the taoist arts posting like they are veteran experts. An one of the biggest problems is that no one from an authentic lineage that has reached a high level about what they can do and what they have attained. And one of my biggest peeves is people that have no teacher never had a teacher and think that just by reading the magus of java that they are an expert. - that is my biggest peeve.

I believe in expanding the field yes not compress it and making it more dense. Compressing it doesnt change that attainment. The field will become more dense if you expand the field anyways. Compressing the field doesnt mean that now because i compressed my field that i can now make an enlarger elixer field. Compression is the opposite of radiating. The field radiates from your body because of the original signal and energy being awakened. to expand that field you have to increase the signal. I dont think that Sifu Rel and that group isnt completely wrong. But I think they should work on being able to channel more of their existing power thru their body. So they can manifest more power. I think the way they are currently doing is by mixing and compression and this built up energy is kind of opening the channels so they feel and experience more but it is no where of where it should be at.

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1.) Im referring to the systems with work with heavenly chi wuji qigong systems. 2.) There are a few signs. For me it feels like there is a tiny pill there. I get a raw buzz that never goes away. I can have emission after emission and its still there. When you focus on your ldt it will charge you up. 3.) i think your referring to connecting your heart mind to the battery. An this is something that is worked on over time. heart mind could be described as stillness.

That Te/ virtue/ yuan qi holds a powerful attainment. If Mantak Chia had this attainment then he would talk about it differently. You dont need kan and li for kundalini you are past it....you dont need to run the mco you are past it you dont need semen retention you are past it. and if he is one of the top guys in the industry then this whole thing is lost.

From this link this is true. http://www.universal-tao.com/dark_room/immortal.htm Fusion of the Five Elements 1 is about harmonizing the five phases of chi flow (wu xing). Fusion 1 practice transforms negative emotions into positive, virtuous chi flow. It harmonizes the Five Shen, the biological-psychological intelligences of the personal self, using the transformative power of pakuas. In this practice these Five Vital Organ spirits, also known as the ‘Interior Gods,’ fuse their essence and natural virtue (de) into a pearl of original chi (yuan chi) in the belly cauldron, the tan tien (lower dantian). 1D. Fusion of Five Elements 2 and 3 uses the pearl to open more channels. The pearl activates the yin-yang pulsation of the eight cosmic pakua forces (I Ching trigram energy) that flow into the Eight Extraordinary Vessels of the human body. These deep energy channels form the blueprint, or matrix, of our personal Energy Body, which supplies the twelve regular meridians with chi. When these eight psychic energy channels are activated, they collectively open the Macrocosmic Orbit (or “large heavenly round”) and can heal at a very deep level. This is faster and far more powerful than acupuncture or herbs for healing chronic illness. This practice opens deep awareness of chi field beyond the body, hence its reputation for awakening psychic powers (known as the eight Siddhas in a parallel Indian tradition). His level 2 is bs because it was out done by level 1. and the same for levels 3,4,5 and 6. Level 7 is correct but he doesnt go into the how most likey because he doesnt know. In my opinion he misunderstood quite a bit...

1.) This means restoring the original energy at the ldt. It goes by a few names yuan chi, zhen qi, zheng qi, primordial qi, the peral, Te and so on ive seen these terms used by masters interchagalby to describe the same thing. 2) the easiest way is to use a wuji method. 3.) By doing moving meditation while focusing on the ldt. 4.) Yes 5.) Well the difference i was referring to was of how sifu rel was training. The dan emits a signal. This signal is the core signal that was used to create you. The dan once awaken emits a field this is tian. Your work from that point is to increase the dan so it is the primary signal in your body so your mind is connected to it. This lessens the seperation between dantian and mind. 6.) Well yes basically. You see there are masters out that that speak of this but once i started to learn what all of this really meant i realized that some of these masters have no idea what they are talking about. Like this http://www.universal-tao.com/dark_room/immortal.htm Its somewhat right but once you know what the pearl or TE is then you can see what doesnt make sense. Mantak Chia wrote about it but he really didnt know what he was talking about.

Well im not sure exactly what you are doing. So let me make this a bit more clear. You can continue to condense your qi but that will only get you so far. If you created the battery in your belly can u access it all? You have to establish a firm connection with your power body and mind so the power can come out fully. Then you have to reconnect that power to the source of all power with will be near an overwhelming experience.

I dont go by levels i go by attainment. So i created the battery. Now im enhancing its signal so i can access more of its power. When the xing and ming is perfectly fused. That means that your mind is one with your internal power. But you have to make sure that your mind body and battery are one. So that means some form of moving med.

1.)You have to create the battery. 2.) You have to completely fuse the heart mind and the battery. 3.) You then have to reconnect that to the source of power. This is the alchemy of inner power. No matter what levels this is split into this is what must be done. So you have done 1 out of 3 now move on to step 2. All of this will increase internal power. One of the reasons that the lower levels of mo pai is such is so that the fusion of mind and dantian will be easier to attain. So in the lower levels you have things like the whole body being rewired to fuel from the ldt. An this is for to better tap into that signal.

You see after you have the attainment you dont have to compress anymore. Its just about enhancing the signal so the power comes up quicker. So when you focus on the ldt it just doesnt buzz then it takes a few seconds or minutes for that signal to swell in your body. Instead of the buzz it will be crazy current sparks coming off of your arms and so on instantly just by focusing on your ldt. this has been my experience.

Im not really sure what your trying to get at here but i was talking about alchemy. Can you explain the part in bold a little more clearly? Also i know one of jim's test was to break into 2 a tree 6in in diameter can you do the same? I rarly focus on my battery to make the current live in my body. Most times i forget that its even there. Just dont want all of the energy in my aura. But that power remains regardless

The battery in your belly emits a signal. Increasing that signal until it can radiate far from the body is apart of the alchemy. and it is this that i think your doing. But i think your increasing the tian and not the signal of the dan. Increasing the signal of the dan is what your after. After you got the attainment you can focus on the ldt and it will buzz. You see this is the fusion of the xing and ming. You want to fuse your mind with your battery to increase its signal in your body. One way to do this is keeping your mind on your ldt while you do moving meditation this will increase the signal you get from your dan and strengthen your connection to it. Find a balance between that and the mixing if you can. The whole point of moving meditation is to further cultivate your dan.

Well theres a few. 1.) You dont have to suck the field back in to store it. Pulling your energy back in your ldt after practice is just good practice not good alchemy. The whole point of doing this is so you you have so much of your chi floating around in your aura. 2.) Sucking the energy back in does not increase the dan or the spark. It is the dan that creates the field. 3.) Continually merging will make your tian too dense. It increases your tian not your dan. I honestly believe that you suck the field back into the ldt because you keep mixing and by doing so making your field too dense. You cant operate in society like that. let me ask you can you generate that intensity of field that you get by conitually mixing when ever you want at the same intensity? Rel, I do think that you and your guys are on to something so please consider what i said and keep working.

Rel, Since your bringing your yang down to your yin to make the field and you keep doing that to make the field really dense then sucking that field into the dantian. Heres the problem with that. Since few know what the attainment of the battery in your belly means ill go into it a little bit ill explain this first. That spark in your ldt is the original energy signal that the embryo created. This spark sent a pulse thru out the whole embryo to start life. Most meditators feel a nice warming feeling in the dantian after some time. That is only because they are getting close to that original energy but never hitting the raw current. When alchemist tap into the spark it again sends a pulse thru out your entire being healing you and making you whole. When this is done the elixer field expands. When you were in the womb the same thing happened but when it happened there it created your embryonic sac instead. Now this signal must be strengthened so you can radiate with power. What i think is happening with you. Is that your trying to merge yin and yang but your not successful like john. Remember he did it 3 times. So he didnt get it the first 2 times. I think you keep mixing because you dont know how to strengthen the original signal any other way. Now that spark is a gateway to the wuji.....Connect your power to the source of all power is the next step after you reach a certain point. Now i do commend you for doing your own research and testing things because thats what scientist and alchemist are suppose to do.

If you can prove what your saying then great. Im not looking for a teacher im good....so thanks but no thanks.

Umm...Ok I have to say this. If your going to go forward with your own theory on training you have to match it up with taoist alchemy. Mixing just isnt something you do its to reach i specific point or attainment. power and attainment are not always the same thing. You could miss alot bascially im saying you could be under developed in some ways. Tridaya is pretty powerful. Those practitioners can do alot of things.... and they demonstrate a lot of things. Now to the mixing people. If your publicly claiming to reach this level then you must prove it by being able to do stuff. Like pushing a chopstick thru a piece of wood. John's level 3 students were expected to do this...One can not talk the talk you must prove your walk. There are some pretty powerful internal martial art masters out there. Some that can shatter your internal organs with their internal power alone.

Sifu Rel i see that you logged in to read my response but you didnt respond. So ill start. This original energy is the backbone of creation. When the wuji reached a certain tranquility (preheaven) it moved. So when this heaven chi moved it created a spark. (post heaven) this movement created yin and yang. This original energy which you can say is yin yang chi before it separated went out to balance these to forces. So the balance of these 2 forces is known as life force. This original energy since it is either yin of yang act as a medium between the 2. When the human body was being created. Heaven chi flowed in to what later became known as the ming men cavity. When this essence reached tranquility it created a spark this spark and the heaven chi gave birth to the essence or the jing. So taoists like to go back to the source. They prefer to use the preheaven methods to tap into this power. So they fill themselfs with original energy and try to reach stillness. Try to understand its all about primordial chi because it is only that chi that is truley yours. When you breath down to the ldt from your nose understand that it is postnatal jing. Ya know the air you breath the food you eat? post natal and prenatal jing isnt really your energy because it can be lost. Thru waste or emission. Transmuting that energy to wake up and tap into the primordial chi is what it is really about. Only after that point can you say you have truely attained something because you cant lose it by simply living life.

Primordial Qi this is interesting tell me what you know of this? Its my understanding that the people who actually know about this are few.