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This is the school that this man belongs to. http://ngfamilycombat.com/

Its ok few people can reckonize a 100% pure jing break.

MPWAY, Yeah i notied he was no longer here. So my question is has anyone else got this attainment that TT talked about?

TempleTao, Now that ive done my own research and know what the yuanqi or the original energy is that you posted about. I just want to thank you for writing so much on it. What you wrote was very interesting from a first hand experience and what it was like to attain it. I cant believe someone actually wrote about this online and in such detail!! Thank you for starting this thread and spelling out what the original energy really is. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.

Check it "What is "Tai-Chi" (太極)? Literally Tai-Chi means the grand terminus and actually it is referred by ancient Taoists as the grand principle of life. Ancient Taoists believed that life is a continuous process of Yin and Yang; Yin is the "substance," and Yang is the "appearance" of the substance; Yuan-Qi (元氣) is the primeval energy that moves the process. When Yuan-Qi passes through the "substance," it shines. In Chinese language, the shining (the "appearance") is called "Sheng" (生), which is the acknowledgment of mind; the "substance" that Sheng attached to is called "Ming" (命), which is the physical body. Collectively, "Sheng-Ming" (生命) is thus become the whole spectrum of existence known as "life." When Yuan-Qi is gone, the substance "fades" away. Is the substance gone as well? No one would know, for there is no Yuan-Qi, there is no way to detect the substance. However, when the Yuan-Qi is still flowing, life retains all its potentials. As life is the illumination of Yuan-Qi, life won't see its own death. The theory of Yin-Yang leads life to a bizarre but fascinating existence-the "eternal now." To see life as "eternal now" is difficult if not impossible. However, Tai-Chi practice shows the Way. Ancient Taoists were practical people; they did not grieve over the "fading" of the substance but cherished the "shining" of life. Wishing to enjoy life longer and maximizing all the life's potentials, ancient Taoists devised a way called "Dao-Yin" (導引) to tap the energy of Yuan-Qi, and developed Tai-Chi practice. Tai-Chi practice is a discipline that studies Dao-Yin and the harmony of Yin and Yang for the purpose of reaching a serene existence with the true nature-where Sheng-Ming shines. Sheng is Yang, and Ming is Yin. As Sheng reflects as mind and Ming manifests as body, a unified mind and body shows not just a joyful life but also the harmonized Yin and Yang. The harmonized Yin and Yang is Unism (一元)-the realm of One. It is with such a unified mind and body, Tai-Chi practice transcends the physical world into Unism. In Unism, mind "thinks," body "moves" spontaneously. In such spontaneity, there is no time lapsed between the perception of mind and the action of the body. No "time" thus no "space," no "space" thus no body, no body thus no mind, life is only the rhythm of the Unism. For there is no "time" in Unism, there is only "eternal now." Tai-Chi practice has shown the Way to eternity. To tap the energy of Yuan-Qi, the Way of Dao-Yin is to channel Qi. A common misconception is to think that Qi is air; however, air is only one "appearance" of Qi, the "substance" of Qi is pressure. Principally depicting any thing that moves, Qi in modern term is more like "fluid dynamics." Qi is originated in Yuan-Qi. Through breathing, Yuan-Qi enters one's body and manifests as Qi; Yuan-Qi is also known as "pre-birth" (先天之氣) Qi; Qi inside one's body is known as "after-birth" (後天之氣) Qi. If the movement of the "after-birth" Qi, or simply Qi, is sluggish or uneven, it'll be in the way and collides with Yuan-Qi, thus reduces the effectiveness of Yuan-Qi. If the movement of Qi is too fast, it'll be burned out before it can be rejuvenated by Yuan-Qi. Thus Dao-Yin is to coordinate the breathing and the body movements to channel Qi through the body ahead of Yuan-Qi thus provides Yuan-Qi a least resistant passage to fill the body. When the body is filled with Yuan-Qi, it becomes lively. Dao-Yin does enhance life; longevity is only a by-product." Quoted from here http://www.taomartialarts.com/tji/tji_shentaichi.html

Check it "Wu Ji and Taiji training will produce enough Yuan Qi to balance its power. The first two stages of training, Wu Ji and Taiji, allow the practitioner to produce enough Yuan Qi to balance their internal power and improve their Qi quality, smooth the meridian channels and produce explosive power: Hun Yuan Jing. Once the practitioner has mastered these two stages they are ready to advance to the third stage to train Jing for use in application. This stage of training is called Push Hands. Through at least ten years of push hands training (single hand, double hand motion or static push hands), the practitioner trains to listen for Jing, yielding to Jing, and to emit Jing. You will be able to hear the opponent's intention at any moment, feeling your opponent's pathway of Qi, directing the opponent's Jing's landing point. This enables the practitioner to overcome motion from stillness. Softness overcomes hardness, applying four ounces to overcome a thousand pounds. After practicing push hands to maturity, the practitioner can use Jing by subconscious free will. He can achieve a level of integration of hands, eyes, steady mind, body and footwork; and can apply it to Taiji freehand sparring. This is the advanced level of Taiji practice and requires over 20 years of practice. That is why we say that you don't know Taiji if you only have ten years experience. You know a little bit if you have 20 years experience. Only then can you say that you know Taiji. To learn Taiji push hands requires an experienced master instructor." Quoted from here https://www.wudangsanfengpai.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=113:push-hands-and-sparring&catid=71:taiji&Itemid=119

Check this out "In Tai Chi practice, the practitioner uses the mind to direct Qi and Qi to direct movement. Motion arises from stillness (Wu Ji); Tai Chi is characterized by smooth flowing dance-like motion united with Qi Gong, concentration of the mind and the practical application of internal Kung Fu. Seeking stillness in motion and practicing with a high degree of concentration balances the inner and outer and the practitioner reaches into the stage of void: man united with heaven. Pre-heaven Qi (Yuan Qi) is created from Wu Ji. Tai Chi's fluid, harmonious, meditative movements train Yin and Yang, and bring balance to the two kinds of inner Qi. Tai Chi allows us to reach balance and gentleness. Under a good teacher's guidance the practitioner can generate Yuan Qi in the Dan Tien. Through sitting and standing meditation techniques, and cooperative Tai Chi movement, the Qi can be cultivated into motion. You can improve the quality and quantity of Yuan Qi and its explosive power (Jing), balance Yin and Yang and, further, establish the internal foundation for Tai Chi sparring and push hands through the practice of Tai Chi." Quoted from here http://www.wudangtao.com/content/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=105:tai-chi-internals&catid=53:tai-chi&Itemid=74

Check this out "Basically what is going on is that in response to combination of physical and mental actions primarily centered on the lower abdomen the ZhenQi 真气 "true/real qi" which is generated and then stored in the DanTian after long practice is "activated", and an application of the Yi 意 "intention" is used to guide or lead (as in the expression DaoYin 导引 "guiding & leading") this qi out of the DanTian, through the channels of my body-mind, into the body-mind of another person, and then finally back into my own DanTian (to the greatest degree possible, at my level the vast majority is lost in the process)." Quoted from here: http://yijinjing.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=19#ixzz2RDIc0C1m

Check this out came across this while doing some research. "When researching martial arts there are many potential lines of comparison: historical data, terminology, poetry (Kuen Kuit), postural structure, and numerous other aspects. None, however, are as important as the Process of Cultivation with regards to Ging/Chi. In the study of Kung Fu (or any sport) we must first strengthen the body or begin its developmental training. Similar ideas can be found in Wing Chun. Among the late Grandmaster Yuen Kay-San’s early written notes is: “Sum Jing Hei Cheung Lao – quiet the heart and conserve the Chi/Breath.” One of the boxing maxims espoused by the late Grandmaster Yip Man: “externally train the tendons/sinews and internally train one Chi/Breath.” In Koo Lo village art of the late Grandmaster Leung Jan, it is recorded: “Lik Yiu Noi Gong / your power must be internal”. These references allude to a specific cultivation platform in Wing Chun. Significantly different from the Hard Bow methods of the so-called South Fist arts, the Wing Chun cultivation process follows the road of Rou Jing (within soft carries hard). The training of the tendons, sinews, joints, meridians, and sinking of the chi to the dan tien follow a different model than those who develop the body through forced “Hard” Gong methods such as Hung Gar’s Tiet Sien (Iron Wire) or the Tiet Saam (Iron Shirt) of other arts. The Chuk (speedy), Keng (shock), Duen (short), Chuen (inch) Ging are all terms used to describe Wing Chun’s signature power. This sort of specific force is not produced via un-natural breathing and Hardening but through the road of soft. The root of Wing Chun is Siu Lin Tao (training of the little details) set and the root of the other common arts of its region is Som Chin (Three Battles) or Som Bo Jin (Three Step Arrow). These certainly represent two different types of Base Cultivation and most certainly different forms of “Ging/Qi” cultivation. Grandmaster Fu Wei Zong said: “just as there are different Precious Stones there is different qualities of Chi. Emei uses High Quality Qi.” The most famous description of the Wing Chun Kuen art reads: “Wing Chun Kuen is characterized by its ‘narrow’ horse and ‘short’ bridge.” The Yee Jee Kim Yeung Ma (character “=” clamping the “yang” meridian horse) and the Emei “=” shoulder Wuji (empty) horse both are designed to cultivate the Zheng Qi (True/Proper Chi) and both follow the same Yin/Yang relationship of sinking of the Yin and raising or supporting of the Yang (as in Yee Jee Kim “Yang” Ma). It is also interesting to note that in the alchemy traditions of the art." This was quoted from here http://www.w1ng.com/mystery-of-the-snake-and-crane-emei-connection/http://www.w1ng.com/mystery-of-the-snake-and-crane-emei-connection/

Master Surjana, Your Tridaya manuals are very informative.

Ummm...indoor is for dedicated practitioners not beginners. The public forum wont change....... Also by offering this service you may be get other indoor sub threads. Most qigong schools have forums some try to make their forums private. If this could be a success then other systems might want to have the taobums as a place for their in door discussion of their practice. If this happens then this would really make the indoor part of the forum a draw. The implications of the success of an indoor forum on here is good.

The real name would be cool but what would be even a little bit cooler is having a basic test on taoist knowledge and alchemy. Then this would truly make it indoor and exclusive. So thus the indoor would be a group of knowledgeable taoist scholars and practitioners. Then this would leave the public forum for only novices enthusiasts trolls and so on. This could also be a nice business model if the site owner charges for this access in the form of an application fee. Which would be the test of taoist knowledge and alchemy of course. the marketing draw would be getting grandmasters and qigong masters on there these established masters would of course not have to file for an application and thus would get in for free. My above suggestion keeps your members identity private and promotes deeper taoistic discussion cuts down on derailing while also possibly increasing profits for the forum.

I personally believe that karma is like an echo. The spirit and emotion we emit when we do things is echoed in this universe and reflect back to us. The micro and macro so to speak. So a better saying would be only manifest your true self so the universe can reflect that back and show you the of truth all.

Drew could you say how the yang body is cultivated and its role in alchemy?

Ah thats good that you know of it. i always like to read the original when it comes to things like this. The 3 below are also taoist texts on alchemy along the same vien. I wish you luck in in your pursuit

Drew, Since you are a serious scholar about this subject id like to tell you about the "Xing Ming Fa Jue Ming Zhi " it was written by Zhao Bi Chen Also check out These Taishang ganying pian Liaoyang dian wenda bien Cunshen Lin Qi Ming These may help your alchemic efforts

Ya know when it comes to energetic languages and scriptures that have a divine blessing or charge. You can actually lay the text on your body and healing can occur. I call this the laying of words

Jacob's Pillow...?

Ok i thought this thread was "The Logical analysis synthesis of immortality and its Methods" and mo pai is a taoist methodical way of attaining immortaltiy. So i dont know how my questions are off topic. Also btw dorian didnt answer my questions he just asked me not to post off topic. So if anyone else has an answer to my above questions id really appreciate it.

Ok i train in mo pai and im a student of jim. How does this relate with what i train in? Im asking mainly because i was interested in what you said about the yuanchi being a battery in the ldt that you posted about in another thread. Can you tell us more about the battery in the ldt and what i feels like and how it differs from mo pai? Have you attained this battery in the ldt? Thanks in advance

Dorian Black posted this on another thread and it was so good and seemed to vibe what was written on this thread i decided to post it here. Dorian can you tell us more about this yuan chi? Thanks in advance

Very Cool