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This is the link for Kevin W. Chen's website. But I always have trouble finding where he advertised his current qigong class that I am taking for Longevity Qigong. http://yang-sheng.com/

I want to reply to the perception that Falun Dafa is pseudo Buddhism. Falun Dafa claims that what has been passed down as Buddhism is actually very distorted because the followers of Buddha who heard his teachings were not enlightened for the most part and thus they did not understand his teachings and interpreted the teachings incorrectly and they were passed down like that. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi told us that only 500 followers of Buddha reached enlightenment. An example of misunderstanding is the 8 Fold Path. The 8th path, enlightenment actually should be the first path to be achieved because when someone is enlightened their behavior becomes spontaneously in accord with all the Laws of Nature and they spontaneously engage in right action. There is no trying to be peaceful, or trying to be non-violent when you are enlightened. You naturally behave that way. It comes with that level of consciousness. So once enlightenment is achieved, all of the 7 paths are automatically achieved. Tell this to a practicing Buddhist and they will become very uncomfortable and resist this way of thinking about Buddhism.

In reply to the death of qigong masters. You might want to look up the life of Kai Shen Tsui who is retired police dept. worker, I think in Taiwan, who was born in 1910. He learned a rare set of qigong exercises from a Buddhist monk in 1934. Since then he only did qigong sporadically but not daily. However, when he retired at age 66 his health was not so good so he then began to practice daily the qigong set that he learned in 1934. He is still alive at age 109 and you can see his flexibility on youtube videos where he teaches his form but in Chinese. However, Kevin W. Chen, whom the Chinese government called "The cancer killer", is a professor at the Integrative Medical Center at the University of Maryland Baltimore campus and he translated Tsui's teachings and he is now offering that as an online course which I recently began as a 5 session course. I will say that you will not be able to learn it from the online video unless you speak Chinese fluently. That is the value of professor Chen. Professor Chen also quotes from a Chinese master who lived to be 133. By the way, it's fascinating that Tsui, at age 109 still has his own teeth, he does not need eye glasses, and he demonstrates the bodily flexibility of an infant. See it for yourself. The exercises are easy to do except for one of them, depending on your level of flexibility. There are 20 exercises and the course fee is about as low as you will ever see for qigong.

Hi Equid., Your post has to be one of the most unusual ones so far on this thread. Since I have done both Flying Phoenix and Falun Dafa I would be interesting in hearing what you consider the similarities to be between these two types of Qigong as I was not aware of any similarities. I found the sensations of Qi produced from Flying Phoenix to feel noticeably different from all of the other qigong methods I have tried. The last time I tried Falun Gong was this past December when it resulted in a spontaneous and immediate healing of chronic off and on stiffness and pain in my lower back. So that was rather magical.

My friend did not make that claim. I stated that because I was so impressed. I might have exaggerated based on the way he described the tremendous Qi flow in his body. When he first did Flying Phoenix holding a peach, I think it was, as he held his hands in that position he could feel like a spinning ball of qi in his hands. When doing other types of qigong he feels Qi shooting out of his bubbling spring points and energy going up his spine so it sounds like he has the MCO going spontaneously. Recently he felt Qi shooting out from his beard. And he hardly ever does any qigong at all.

To Sifu Lew's daughter, Times have changed. Technology, DVD teaching, online teaching, etc. are part of our modern life. I have a friend who only dabbles in qigong, trying a form only once in awhile. Yet he has some experiences the first time he does some qigong from a DVD or online download which equals that of a master. Effective qigong should produce results regardless of the format that is being used to teach it. That is my personal opinion from trying about 100 different qigong forms so far, mainly learned from DVDS. The strongest Qi I ever felt was when a teacher online was sending me a Qi transmission.

I would like to mention something about the turning of the Dharma Wheel in Falun Dafa. After I learned Falun Dafa I had my medical clairvoyant check to see if there was a wheel installed inside of me. He described in correct detail including how it was rotating. And I also felt the wheel being installed.

My view on death is just my take after being on a spiritual path for the last 50 years and having 2 world famous masters. I think that the exact time of our death, just the exact time of our day of enlightenment is already determined. What qigong does is allow us to be more healthy during our allotted lifespan. We probably can agree that one thing for certain that we all get from qigong is a stronger immune system. That alone would result in better heath. Same principal applies to my practice of Transcendental Meditation. It was meant to produce enlightenment which it certainly did for the guru who brought it out to the rest of the world. But I have never heard of anyone else reaching enlightenment who does TM, even for several decades. But what it does do is give other benefits that makes your daily life go better with less stress. We do not get physical immortality from doing qigong but we get better health and some spiritual growth. Daisy Lee during her webinar the other day mentioned that one of her teachers lived to be 108, Master Duan, and her other teacher lived to be 115! I say that is good enough.

To Toni I would suggest that you read the entire lengthy thread for Flying Phoenix and you will gain quite an understanding about the method while at the same time reading about what other people have experienced from this method. You are the first person that I have heard of who states that it does not work. Qigong works at different levels and works on different things for each person. So someone might be wanting qigong to heal a certain condition but instead the Qi, which has an intelligence to it, knows what it needs to work on and what order to do it. And it could be balancing conditions that we are not aware of. Also, we might have certain expectations for a method and with that a time table of when the results should happen. That might not be how these qigong methods work. If you did Flying Phoenix for a 6 month period I would be surprised if you would then say it does not work. Of the many qigong methods that I have learned, including Fragrant Qigong, Flying Phoenix Chi Kung has produced the most tangible and unique sensations of Qi. And I state that as someone who does not feel subtle energy very strongly at all. So think about your expectations and also the short of amount of time that you tried Flying Phoenix and also check to see if you learned the meditations exactly as they have been demonstrated and that you are doing the breath percentages as they are taught. I would be interested to learn what your expectations were from FP that you did not achieve.

Sifu Terry, I wanted to comment on your roundtable with those other qigong instructors. George Love is a famous qigong instructor in Florida who has many qigong teachings videos on Youtube. His style to me looks a bit advanced. The Monk is Arthur Rosenfeld who I recently became acquainted with via email and reading about him online and watching some of his interviews. He is known mainly for his tai chi work and I was surprised to find out he is also an author so I recently obtained 3 of his novels because they have to do with martial arts and I don't know of other sources for good martial arts stories. And you already are familiar with Chunyi Lin. I was fortunate to have my employer send me to one of his workshops to learn Spring Forest Qigong back in 2007. So that is quite a powerful group of teachers assembled for that roundtable.

Good to hear something about the meditations on Volume 5. I have posted in years past how I think those 90 second meditations get the least amount of comments on this thread. They were always one of my favorites because I am partial to chi kung methods that are quick and easy but also very effective. Eric Isen, medical clairvoyant, once gave a detailed report about what he saw each of those movements doing from Volume 5 just by knowing the name of each one of them. It was very impressive and encouraging to learn what they will do. This might be a good time for me to dig out that volume and relearn them.

Walmart sells dvds for as low as $24.95, less than the price of a qigong dvd.

I have deleted my original post because the medical clairvoyant, Eric Isen, tonight sent me new information about the Coronavirus. I will post it verbatim as I consider it as quite a gift: "Bupleurum Chinenese herb is the most effective PREVENTION AND CURE for the Coronavirus. Dragon Herbs in Santa Monica, California is owned by a renowned master herbalist who states that Bupleurum should be combined with certain other herbs in order to get rid of the toxins that this herb will release." I have used Bupleurum from Dragon Herbs several years ago but I cannot recall the reason why. I am guessing because I think it had something to do with improving meditation or producing Qi. I offer this recommendation as a public service to our qigong community and people will use their own discernment to decide whether they want to follow up on this, believe it or dismiss it. That is as it should be. But I could not keep this potential life saving information to myself. The correct standard formula is called Minor Bupleurum. Xiao Chai Hu Tang. It contains the rest of the herbs to get rid of the toxins. The supply of these herbs is obviously from China so that means this formula will run out in the USA and will not be resupplied. Dragon Herbs company is already sold out.

All I know is that I tried Falun Gong for 3 months 10 years ago and dropped it as it took too long. Since I now have more time I took it up again last month for about 3 weeks. All I know is that for several years I have had lower back pain after lifting anything even a bit heavy such as 25 lbs. But soon after this recent go round with Falun Gong that slight pain disappeared even though I have been lifting a 33 lbs baby for awhile now. 100 million Chinese were not going to do Falun Gong unless it really did heal people that they knew and then themselves when they tried it. I dropped it again recently because the postures are not enjoyable at all. It is meant to make you endure hardship with the thinking that suffering changes bad karma to good karma. Just one of Master Li's concepts that I disagree with. But it does result in rapid and unexpected physical healings. The emphasis is that the practitioner should focus on uplifting his moral character in order to get full spiritual benefits because modern Chinese do not have very high morals according to Li Hongzhi. Instead, they are striving to get ahead of others on the job and are jealous of the success of others and are preoccupied with materialistic achievements. He does not even want the practitioner to read any other qigong books as all other qigong methods are to be considered to be low quality and only good for physical healing but will not advance you spiritually. Falun Gong is mainly for achieving enlightenment. Since it is all taught for free, including all of the teaching videos and texts are online, it is not a money making organization.

Thank you for the short version which I now use for the 5th exercise even though at some point, perhaps in 2014 when the online Falun video narration was revised, Master Li Hongzhi wants cultivators to do the meditation section for about an hour.

Good stuff you posted Éclair. I indeed have tried Kip's sound music over the past several years. Eric tested Kip's work and he told me that Kip does indeed have a gift. Kip told me that his sound music would give me the same deep meditation experience that I have had with TM meditation or else he would refund my money. I tried some of his albums and felt nothing from them so he did refund my money. I have a friend who this summer tried Kip's music and he had great experiences from those sounds. However, a few days ago I had a full session with Eric Isen who described the new energy coming from the avatar Amma-Bhagavan. It is beyond any of his previous deekshas. They now offer one day courses where they have this special light that you look at and it makes necessary changes to the brain where people then experience their daily life differently. Eric said that just one of those sessions produced more growth for him than all of the previous 15 years of traveling to India for Oneness courses did. He said the effects from this new course do not fade. They are permanent. I hope to try one in the future. Bhagavan works directly on each course participant even though he is not present physically, but he is there. This is beyond the ability of any guru to perform. It sounds similar to how Falun Dafa Master Li Hongzhi is able to work on everyone practicing Falun Dafa. Eric the other day did check to see if I had a Falun wheel already installed in my lower dan tian since I restarted Falun Dafa a few weeks ago. He said I definitely do have one there that he saw and he also saw that it was already working on a minor health issue that recently cropped up. I would say that Falun Dafa is not an enjoyable qigong method to do because it involves doing tapas by holding the static postures for long periods. But it is the only method that results in a person practicing qigong 24/7 even though they are not doing the practice itself that long at all. Because it is not enjoyable I am not sure how long I will continue with it. 12 years ago I only lasted 3 months with it.

Whimsy was my first impression but I just wanted clarification, thanks.

"Lord of the manor", "his lordship". The reason for referring to Sifu Dunn that way? Is that being facetious? Or is that meant to be whimsical? I don't really know how it was meant since it might imply lack of respect and resentment. Just wondering.

I know what you mean. I have some of his sitting meds and I have not even bothered to learn them because there is just too many unknowns with his purely demo videos probably created just for the students he taught in person as reminders of the forms. I am not sure what the Golden Flying Phoenix series is however. I have his seated ones from the San Gong series. I think that is the name of them. Or San Yee Gong perhaps.

I have said this before, it seems to me to be impossible for one man, such as Doo Wai, to have memorized all of those forms from his family lineage. I just do not believe it is humanly possible to do that considering that he also had to memorize a different breathing pattern for each form. And there are levels upon levels of his tradition. And that is just for the chi kung forms. He also mastered Kung Fu. It would be interesting to ask him directly how he accomplished such a feat considering that he was not raised in a temple. I never strive for perfection when I learn any chi kung form. I strive for doing it to the best of my ability. I think the pressure of learning anything perfectly would actually choke the flow of chi, messing up the Yi.

That is how early qigong was learned when there was no teacher around. The books had drawings of figures and then later photos. I think that serves the purpose of memory but only after the formed is learned correctly, and once it is learned correctly there is no need for pictures. I recall my friend and I in 1979 learning tai chi from a book with photos. When we eventually showed up for a few free tai chi lessons with a live teacher we really embarrassed ourselves when he asked us to show him the form. He was kind enough not to laugh. He just said, "let me show you what tai chi is supposed to look like." Watching him do the form was like seeing a blade of grass swaying in the wind. Whereas my friend and I looked like mechanical robots. The flow of the movements can never be learned from still shot photos. The best way I learned Flying Phoenix was to just stay with one form doing it along with the dvd until it was memorized. I had the breathing patterns written on a sheet of paper and they were eventually memorized after so many repetitions of doing the form along with the dvd. Then after doing the form solo for a week I would go back and do it along with the dvd to correct any small deviations. My guess is that some people just want to learn so many of the FP forms too quickly so they can get to the next dvd and this would make it difficult to memorize what needs to be remembered. But those people blessed with something close to a photographic visual memory are the quick learners and the lucky ones.

Kindness and benevolence. Frankness and friendliness are qualities of the basis of the Universe and that means they go a long way to cultivate our Qi. I think there are nicer ways to express our perceptions of a man who has devoted so much of his life sharing such an ancient and potent healing method during this darkest of ages, Kali Yuga. It takes goodness to recognize goodness. A true spiritual warrior exists to stamp out evil. I would not throw out the baby with the bath water.

To Dwai, I look forward to someday reading your novel. There are not enough spiritual novels. My experience when the siddhis worked for me is that the experiences I had would sound like pure fiction to those who have not tasted the flavors of the siddhis. But such a beautiful title you chose for your book. I am sure the pages contain wisdom in addition to entertaining reading.

When I was 25 years old and in the first year of my career I worked alongside a 71 year old child psychiatrist. I figured that at her age she must by now know a thing or two about people. Plus, when I drove to work every day I had to pass by the New Hampshire state psychiatric hospital and I noticed the the children's portion of the state hospital was named after my co-worker. One of the first women to become a child psychiatrist in the U.S. So one day in 1973 she wanted to pass on some sagely advice. She took a drag on her cigarette and said, "young man, if you want to get along with people remember these three things: don't talk religion, don't talk politics, and don't tell anyone who you are sleeping with." Now that I am 71 years old and have had my share of interacting with people I find that Dr. Anna Philbrook's advice still rings true.

That must be quite a labor of love to actually complete a book. No small task, I am told. I just wondered from the title if you have been initiated by an enlightened yogic master from a lineage of siddhas? Because from my direct experience, it would be almost impossible to write about the siddhis without actually having had that unique totally spiritual experience when Patanjali's yoga sutras actually do work. As I wrote elsewhere in the past somewhere on Daobums that there has been a vital correct teaching missing in all editions of Patanjali's Yoga Sutras books, such as the most well known, "How to Know God." Fortunately, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 1970's created the Transcendental Meditation Siddhis program that included the missing piece of correct instructions. The difference between experiencing direct and immediate temporary states of enlightenment vs. spinning your wheels wondering what you are supposed to experiencing or how long will it take to feel something. The method when taught correctly works the first time you practice it and when in that state of higher consciousness you absolutely know that this is the first time you have ever been in your normal state of mind/Being. You know this not from intellectual knowing, but just from Being it. Nothing compares to this. So that is quite a title, Maha Siddha. Greatest Power.