tao stillness

'Qigong Beginning Practice"

I find it surprising that you think Master Duan's Wuji Qigong form is nothing special. How do you know what it is doing for you? I think most people decide how effective a qigong form is by basing it on the amount of chi flow they feel from it. That is only the tip of the iceberg and it would require a person to have the sensitivity of a psychic to actually determine how a particular qigong form is benefitting them. There are so many healing levels to any qigong form and it takes sustained practice over a long time to go thru all those levels to get the benefits. The sensation of chi flow is the most superficial level from a qigong method in my experience.

As of May 24, 2017 I have an update on Garripoli's Master Duan's Wuji Qigong dvd. After learning how to get rid of the mirroring effect from a dvd by using the settings on VCL media player I can now move in the same direction as the instructor on the dvds so I tried Garripoli's Master Duan Wuji Gong form, the opening movements so far, these were the ones that I had trouble learning before. Now they are not difficult to practice so I am going to continue to learn this one considering that Master Duan just died last summer at the age of 107. That should stand as the best testimonial. This method has nothing to do with any other Wuji style that is taught by others. Does anyone know why Garripoli and his wife Daisy Lee divorced?

The above photo has such great energy to it! My heart flowed when I saw this. Thank you for sharing this Sifu Terry. I had consultations over the phone with Eric since 1998 and then finally met him in person about 5 years ago when he flew in from San Diego to attend an inaugural Oneness event for the U.S. held in Wash., DC. It was a treat to experience his joy and warmth. I will always remember last year when I emailed him from a surgical waiting room in Johns Hopkins Hospital and asked him to tell us what was wrong with our then 5 year old daughter who was there for exploratory surgery. He graciously dropped everything to tune in and immediately got back to us and described what he saw and he told us the surgeons would not be able to see the source of the problem due to the intestines being so flimsy. Shortly after that the surgical team called us in to report their findings and they were exactly as Eric had reported to us, almost verbatim! My wife and I looked at each other in astonishment as the surgeons each gave us their findings. At times I have trusted my life and that of some of my loved ones with Eric's care.

It did not take long at to learn Wind Through the Tree Tops on Vol. 3. Shortly after learning this form when it started to feel more natural to do it and after some practice when I did not have to think as much about the movements, I noticed the familiar tangible hands moving thru the thick cloud of chi from the very first movement of the form as the hands rise to come toward the throat. I know that each person experiences FP meditations differently, but this is my main experience from any of the FP meditations that I have done. Noting flashy, nothing other worldly or of spiritual significance. Just the experience that my individual nervous system allows me to have. As simple as this experience may be, it is still stronger than experiences that I have had from most of the other chi kung methods that I have learned. So I am grateful for even this most basic sensation which lets me know that Flying Phoenix Chi Kung is different than any other type of chi kung.

I want to echo what Sifu Terry stated about advanced yogis being able to know the intent of any chanting. In the Vedic system of ancient India Sanskrit is used because it is one of only a few known ancient languages wfhere the sound of the words produces the material form of the words in the consciousness of the person listening to those Sanskrit vibrations. It is called Ritam Bhara Pragya and it is the reason that Patanjali's Yoga Sutras result in manifestation of what he predicts for his formulas if you have been taught the missing piece of information of how to do his sutras correctly. It is called name and form are the same. If your are in an advanced state of consciousness and then mentally recited one of his sutras, the results will manifest in your consciousness. My experience of this was when I was initiated in it is beyond description because of the bliss and love that resulted from entering a higher state of consciousness from this simple method. The formulas or sutras do not produce any results when recited from the thinking level of consciousness. You have to be in a much higher state and the missing knowledge of how to do this was revived by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi when he brought out the TM Siddhis program in the 1970's. It is all based on kundalini reaching the higher chakras in the brain. When someone is taught this method, they immediately become advanced yogis and can then verify from personal experience what Sifu Terry has stated. And from trusted high consciousness sources, Kwan Yin and Tara share similar roles but are not the same Beings/energies. I don't mind these occasional straying from the FP topic posts. I think most people on this thread are ardent seekers and do not mind learning new information. Sifu Terry has been generous in sharing so much bonus info with us. And I want to underscore the contribution that Sifu Terry has made to learning Flying Phoenix Chi Kung. If any of you have ever seen the videos made by Grand Master Doo Wai on YouTube or elsewhere, you will notice as I have stated before, they are more demonstration than actual instruction and are extremely difficult to learn from. Sifu Terry has resolved that by producing his series of Flying Phoenix Chi Kung which is truly instructional. And now Earl Grey has made them even more effective by teaching us the technology to make the learning of Flying Phoenix even easier. I realize not everyone needs this kind of help because there are students out there who are truly gifted with great spatial relationship skill and strong visual memory retention. I am weak in both of those areas so I very much welcome all the coping skills that I can find to learn visually. If not for Earl Grey, my volume 3 of Flying Phoenix Chi Kung probably would never have been opened again.

Gratitude big time to Earl Grey! I just dug out volume 3 of Flying Phoenix Chi Kung, a dvd that I had tucked away about 4 years ago because it was too hard to learn. Tonight I tried it in mirrored fashion using the VLC transforming angle that you shared with us. It now looks easy to learn. All I have to do now is keep doing it along with Sifu Terry as many times as it takes for my brain to memorize it. No more mental gymnastics trying to figure out left from right. It is now just monkey see, monkey do without the strain of thinking! It felt good once again learning from Sifu Terry on screen.

Thanks Earl Grey for the VLC mirroring method. As I already stated, I have discarded many powerful qigong dvds because I could not figure out how to follow the instructor. What I also like about VLC is that you can slow down the speed. That can also be done when learning from a YouTube video.

The spiritual device so far is manifesting things pretty quickly. Some things can take much longer due to circumstances. As for mixing methods, I don't care to do that with those you lised. FP has too many forms and some take so long to do just one of them. 690AD I just have never been able to keep doing since static postures just are not as enjoyable to do as the flowing movement types of qigong. TTP first five movements I dropped because they had the feel of being more like calisthenics so I have not had any interest in obtaining the dvd that has all 31 of the exercises on it. I do 5 Petal Plum and Longevity Qigong. I just had Sheng Zhen Gong tested today and it turned out to be very powerful, very, very good. Will boost my evolution and over time produce experiences. Purify and open the nadis which is a Vedic term for meridians. Evolution means rising in higher states of consciousness, spiritual progress, increase in shen. The same method for my wife would produce maybe too much purification, releasing stress to the point of making her uncomfortable. We have the opportunity to learn the method here locally since there are many classes offered during the week. I have had the dvd and manual for this method some years ago and found the forms too complicated to learn so for me I do need a live teacher so I might join the next class this month. It is mainly for my wife and I to learn a method together just for a shared fun activity.

Sounds like how Earth chi is supposed to circulate.

Perfect feedback! I have commented elsewhere that lately other teachers have been producing their qigong dvds in mirrored manner so that the student and teacher are going in the same direction and that way you eliminate the stress of thinking which is his left hand and which is my right hand? I have put aside many qigong dvds because of the lack of mirroring. What you can do with volume 4 is put a mirror in front of your monitor and then the instructor and you will be going in the same direction. It really takes someone with good spatial orientation to be able to learn without a mirrored image. I am not sure why it took so long for teachers to realize all they have to do on the dvd is to say left when they mean right, and vice versa. What will also help to learn it is to play it at very slow speed, break down one section of it, put it on pause, etc. I have done that and it is time consuming and as I get older I just don't have the patience to learn like that any longer. But from people who do the form it seems that they are getting a lot out of it.

I remember the answer to that question from Sifu Terry was that those projects would take some time and from that I got the impression that they were strong goals but finishing them this year was not set in stone due to other pressing projects Sifu Terry is also working on.

The benefits of Pan Nam's 5 Petal Plum Chi Kung are now evidenced by experiencing more energy after I do them. The 10 minute form is to be done once in the morning, afternoon and evening. I usually am doing the last session after midnight and even later when I am really pooped. But after doing the 5 Petal Plum Chi Kung the fatigue is usually gone and I can stay up even later, LOL. I am truly the worse person to ask about experiences since that is something that is blocked usually. That is the reason I rely upon a medical clairvoyant who tells me what is happening since I am not sensitive enough to detect these kinds of experiences. At times he sees kundalini shooting up my spine and lighting up my psychic centers while I feel almost nothing while doing the chi kung forms. My wife on the other hand can feel the chi flowing exactly where it claims to be going. The Tong Zhi Qigong by Master Ngiam is more enjoyable to perform than the static postures of Petal Plum. While doing the Tong Zhi I can sense that I am in the alpha wave state of relaxation. I also just have this sense while doing them that they are very ancient and are the real thing. I know that since doing Tong Zhi and 5 Petal Plum chi kung my intuition has opened up strongly. Things that I think about then manifest pretty quickly. It first seems that I am just having a daydream or just having thoughts about something but then the phone rings or an email suddenly comes in about who or what I was just thinking about a minute or seconds ago. Little things like this have just been happening more often lately. Enough so that I now recognize what they really are rather than just saying they are coincidences. On the other hand, my friend in Canada who is certified by the Oneness University in India as being Awakened, is having tremendous surges of kundalini when he is at his yoga class. Usually after he lies down after the yoga it happens. He does Nidra yoga, not sure what that is. At times the kundalini lifts his prone body off the ground. At other times it moves him spontaneously and effortlessly into yoga postures that he has never learned or seen before. All of us are opened in different ways and that is why my medical clairvoyant reminds people that one size chi kung does not fit all. They work differently for each person.

Along the same lines as above regarding time spent doing these meditations, I would like to ask Riding the Ox how the 90 second meditations on volume 5 can take several minutes to do each one? Does this mean that you are doing like 10 repetitions of each one? I am scratching my head over this one. Like Sifu Terry said to the other super slo-mo guy, I would love to see you post a video of you doing those flash meditations at that speed since I thought that I did have the correct sense of what moving as slow as a shifting sand dune is like.

Yes, there is great learning by rereading the posts on this forum. But it might be easier to just pay great attention to how the methods are demonstrated on the dvds. If a person then has a physical condition preventing doing a method exactly as demonstrated, they could then just ask Sifu Terry rather than tinker with it via experimentation. In this art, surrender rather than creative thinking works better for me.

I only hear good things about Yang Jwing Ming and Ken Cohen. Stumpich, I see that you live in Phoenix. I lived in Mesa for 4 years until 1988 when I moved to East. Unfortunately, while in AZ I did not know about chi kung because now I see there have been some well known chi kung teachers living in the Valley of the Sun. However, while there I was fortunate enough to receive the services of the world renown psychic surgeon in Tempe, Michael Venezuela who was the real deal.

Someone several months ago asked if I could recommend a good and complete system of chi kung that is online and free. At the time I could not think of any. But now I can make a suggestion. I stumbled up Master Ngiam's website from Singapore where he has chi kung and tai chi videos of his simple forms. I had one of them recently tested by Eric Isen and the report came back that it is very good and it showed where the Qi was going. I currently am doing one of the master's seated chi kung forms and really enjoying those postures. He has a family lineage and impressive martial arts credentials. I like that his chi kung forms are brief and he shows the form as standing or seated. There are instructions along with descriptions of the benefits of most postures.

Thanks Earl Grey. Sounds like you obviously are having higher states of consciousness experiences from Flying Phoenix. I would assume you also have had higher states from most other forms of qigong that you have tried.

Congrats on another achievement Earl Grey. But I think it would be good if you would continue to share those great experiences. I think it would be a mistake to think that everyone who does FP is going to eventually have similar experiences so there would be no need to spoil their surprise when they get to that point. Since nervous systems are so different and people are sensitive or insensitive to certain energies, it would be nice to hear what people are experiencing from doing FP. Not everyone is having great experiences doing FP, I could also make this statement for any other chi kung method.

If memory is correct, Bending the Bows is to be done 18 times.

I would think that what we cultivated in past lives is reflected in how any chi kung method works for us in this lifetime. There are people who do chi kung for the first time and have some amazing experiences, and others who do it for years and are not even yet feeling chi in their hands. I think there are a lot of variables/reasons involved for this, but I think one reason is how much chi did we deposit in our account from the past? We pick up this time around from where we left off. Those who did the work in the past now reap bigger benefits. To me, that explains child prodigies. But I do think that main factor is the current quality of our nervous system. If we are wired correctly, then we should be picking up the signals from the chi flowing. If not, the chi could be flowing but we might have dim awareness of anything happening. Just my thoughts here, nothing solid in terms of research to back this up.

Hi Sifu Terry, I know that you have said that you want each of us to find out what chi kung can do by using our own direct experiences. But I find the sharing of your own experiences from cultivation of energy over the decades to be very inspirational and I would like to hear about more of them if you care to share further stories from along the path.

It is simple to do but you have to pay attention and do all of the things that he is instructing such as standing on edge of your feet, not folding the thumb when you have the index finger wrapped around the edge of finger nail. Little things to keep doing during the 10 minute form. It just takes practice to keep all of those little but vital things in mind during the form and then it eventually should be pretty automatic. This is not a typical style of chi kung.

I don't think this applies to Flying Phoenix Chi Kung, but when I had a Skype lesson from a qigong teacher that was able to do chi transmission, it felt like a world of difference doing certain movements in terms of how much stronger I could feel the energy in between my hands like never before. Then the following week I did the same movements on Skype but with a teacher who did not know how to do transmissions. It was nothing compared to the other teacher's session. So I think if there ever is an opportunity to learn a qigong method from a teacher in person, that would be best. We can never see ourselves as others see us.

Phil, wonderful spiritual guide teaching via your dream! Ancient systems are weakened via innovation by those students who have not reached a high enough state of consciousness to really know what they are doing. The current state of world conditions reflect this when daily meditation of ancient cultures long ago became ineffective because the correct way to meditate was lost when later generations changed things around. One of my qigong teachers told me that only someone experiencing a very high level of Qi can ever create an effective qigong method. The last step of the teaching, Ri, is fascinating because it is saying that when you reach the level of Ri, your state of Consciousness is so high that you are spontaneously living and acting according to the Laws of Nature and therefore you do not make mistakes. So for someone in less than that state of consciousness to be innovative with a system from a long lineage to tamper with it, just has not made much sense to me. I come from a tradition of masters from the Vedic tradition that is safeguards the methods so carefully that when we were training to become teachers of this method, we could not change even one word in some of the teaching methods or else we would not have been allowed to be initiated as instructors. So if I qigong method is too difficult for me, I just drop it rather than make it easier to do. The benefits are not known when we change things around. Just my way of looking at this. But I understand breaking movements downs, that is how I learn them rather than trying to do the whole form over and over again. I master small parts of it and then I can follow along with the whole form.