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I think Damo Mitchell makes a valid point. Using previous posts as an example only and not to critiqu any party. IF someone is offended by a poster they can choose whether or not to complain [make ripples]. Choosing not to do so may be closer to Wu Wei than choosing to do so. That dynamic inaction may well encourage the pebble thrower to desist from throwing pebbles due to the lack of response to their [wasted?] effort. Looking at Wu We another way and purely subjectively as a TaiChi player of little skill but a QiGong teacher for many years....there are times in cultivation when it all just comes together almost effortlessly. Hard to describe in words but many will know what I mean. That to me is to 'be in' Wu Wei. A sort of knowing about it that somehow dissolves when one tries to describe it afterwards.

Damo Mitchell's Daoist Nei Gong page 220

Metaphor being [i pinched this from a Nei Gong book]....... Throwing a pebble into a pool but NO RIPPLES appear on the pool's surface as a result of that act.

Well you live and earn. I never heard of Godwin's law until just now. Laws are designed to be broken. Hence this attempt at refutation.... The character Wei can also be taken as 'to govern' I believe. Hence to act within the principle of Wu Wei might be said to be thinking and speaking without the ego 'governing us'. Mightn't it?

Enjoy. There was an interview with PL in UK Sunday Times magazine last month. The lad seems to be very much his own man. Will try to post a link next Monday. Can't do that on Kindle here at home. Choice seems to me to be between a tribal mediaevalist autocrat trading upon superstition who has expressed a desire that his next incarnation be into his unelected Harvard educated 'Prime Minister' or a young chap somewhat the more in tune with this century who claims to be pro autonomy and modernisation.

Superb. Thank you so much Shanlung. Riches indeed in these old stories. I'll still stick with QiGong though. At my age moving about is much kinder to these old bones than is prolonged sitting. :-)

Superb. Thank you so much Shanlung. Riches indeed in these old stories. I'll still stick with QiGong though. At my age moving about is much kinder to these old bones than is prolonged sitting. :-)

Have you read Kalachakra Initiation? It's available on Amazon. Excellent remedy to all those ghost written and anodyne DL books aimed at the mass market. He writes in there what he actually does and what his job is actually 'for'.

Yep, in the absence of a pro DL-'Tibetan Govt in exile' propoganda machine; I guess so. Profound apologies. ;-)

At last week's Paris horse show two stands were sponsored by horse meat wholesalers. Now that may be off topic but I am still quite cross about it.

Sounds pretty advanced to me K. Some people go years without anything along those lines. Transmission is a fact for sure and happens all the time. My issue such as it is is with people who dress it up in mumbo jumbo or quasi mystical ritual [Tibet anyone?] and sell that notion or potion to gullible punters. As if the transmitter had some sort of magic power for sale. The 'power' is there with the student all the time a good teacher simply facilitates student overcoming their own barriers.

Sifu Jenny Lamb does good work. We're as guilty as any other path for abuses of power. There's a thread running over on Buddhism here along those lines right now. We need more women Sifus that's for sure. The flip side is Yoga classes and Reiki courses in UK colleges. Because those are feminised few men join up which is a shame in one way but good news for QiGong as we get equal numbers of men and women with some men coming in cos they've felt out of place in a Yoga or Reiki class. In our centre the women teachers sessions are all women. The men teachers tend to 50-50.

Awww c'mon it's the same schtick whatever the tradition. DL makes a mint doing mass initiations. That last Kalakchakra gig in America netted millons of dollars. If folk believe it and that's what they want someone will always step up to the plate and supply the market. Keeping it mystical and magical pulls in the punters. Initiation is actually a form of indenture into apprenticeship but if anyone can make a nice living selling it as something it aint then some will and those who do so are seldom short of shills with open wallets.

Nah sorry. Understand it is a hot issue for some but you read Kalachakra Initiation then see if you don't agree that PRC is doing a bang up job as far as Tibet is concerned. Panchen Lama is the main man, young lad only 27 but he's the right Lama in the right place.

Sifu Dog is saying to the horse....... Look it wasn't meant as an insult when I said that your Horse Stance could use a little work.

No idea but I can believe six impossible things before breakfast. Most people can. Scientists though..... NAH. They just believe breakfast consisted of..... .Handy folk scientists when you need a non stick pan inventing but for metaphysics you need a dreamer or a poet if you want a proper job doing.

Under an advertising poster proclaiming Nothing sucks as powerfully as the New Hoover vacuum cleaner someone had written..... Pauline does On topic.... It's all about harmonious balance. Some forms don't suit some people. Mantak Chias sets are superb but too Yang-ey for some people [me for one]. Hence there is a wide choice of forms to try in order to find what suits each individual.

Pie in the sky when you die or Chocolate cookies now Marblehead's has to be the more practical Wu-Wei 'way'. ET' method depends on doing something now with a view to some kinda spiritual payoff eventually... maybe. Marblehead's way gets the goodies... right now. Gentlemen.... We have a WINNER. ;-)

Brilliant post. Thank you Snowmonki. 'A day without learning is a day wasted' I have certainly learned something new by reading your excellent piece this evening.

Lucy the Sufi who is one of the mediums who works at our centre recommends a book called 'The Knowledge Book' not sure who wrote it and not read it but it's one she recommends to anyone interested in deeper side of Sufism. Lucy is Turkish but she's lived here for years. Good medium, always busy. Osho is OK there's one of his books on Rumi . Trouble with Osho though he was a bit of a squirrel. Picking and choosing bits from everywhere. I do like his Chuang Tzu gloss though....'When the Shoe Fits' that is very funny yet also very profound.

Now a God made out of chocolate. That I could worship. Mind you the statues of him would soon get eaten in our house if those were made of chocolate too. There's a chocolate shop in Leicester Shopping Mall [Thorntons???] Has a sign in the window that says.... 'Chocolate Heaven since 1911'

I quite enjoy practical books. Just reading the martial artist champ Nigel Sutton's 'Searching for the Way' about how he came to TaiChi through injury plus stories about the masters he has studied with in china and Malaysia. Spiritual books as such leave me a bit bored usually. Everybody seems to have their own idea and many imply that their way is somehow the 'right' way but when you reflect on it they are saying much the same as the next guy with slightly different emphases on certain practices. Dalai Lama cured me once and for all of ever wanting to read a Tibetan focus book. His 'Kalachakra Initiation' has to be the biggest crock of sh*te ever foisted onto the reading public. Brought me round to seeing the PRCs viewpoint when it comes to Tibetan issues.

Spending,as one does; substantial portions of time when at our centre; chatting to people who in the world's terms are 'dead' I'm always going to side with the 'conscious life goes on eternally' faction. That said there's no way anyone who chooses not to agree will ever be preached,taught or argued into seeing things our way. Personal experience is everything in these matters.

Bodrum was a favourite holiday destination for us when we still flew to travel. Plus the obligatory Camel Coach overnight journey to enjoy three days in Sultanahmet District of Istanbul for shopping. We always stayed in Istanbul at the Nilton Hotel [ike the Hilton but much much cheaper] Lovely city, lovely people. I was trying to say that any God who needs believers to do somethng for him or her is not much of a God. :-)

Definitely 8 Strands of Silk Brocade. Sets are online also on here. If you are UK based then Sifu Colin Orr [Great Yarmouth] has a really good teaching DVD you can buy online. His website is well worth a visit.... www.taichi-qigong.net Best wishes to you or fruitful cultivation.