Shagrath

Thank you all very much. Now I will try to digest all the valuable information that you shared.

And please sinansencer when you succeed in your pursuit make another thread with the same name but without question mark, and share your knowledge and experience

Yes. Also somebody can sell some good MLM product that pays good. The thing is that there is no overnight success. Everything is time consuming. Lots of my friends are in MLM business, they had dream that they will work MLM next to their primary job but there is no time for that. MLM sounds great but still you have to advertise, to find connections, to pull the strings, go to conferences, etc. That is why I said it's better to get some diploma in some filed that is closely related to your primary interest, you will be more satisfied. And I would highly recommend work of Stephen Kraus. Brilliant man guy who wrote exceptional books. Helped me a lot.

Siddhartha was born as a prince and later he became hobo, and learned from other wise hobos. Also Leonardo was born in very very wealthy family so from the start he could do whatever he likes without need to earn money. That was also the "problem" with Morihei Ueshiba. The only reason he could train entire day and later to come up with Aikido is because he could. If you are not born in wealthy family you have two options. To live "materialistic" life or to live "spiritual" life. If you choose "materialistic" than finish some school, find a job, earn money and during your spare time learn and pursue your bliss and one day when you feel like it teach it to other people who are also interested in that same think but are few levels below you. If you choose "spiritual" life. Become a hobo, or a monk, or buy few goats and cows and move to some mountain and meditate entire day. If you see through history many rich people became saints or have awakened. Only because they had time. Only the rich people from Europe went on spiritual quest to Jerusalem, or Rome or wherever. They did not have to work every day for they food. It's a tough world. I would really be happy to see you achieve what you desire, these are just my experiences.

This is a new way of viewing, but that's the learning Thank you very much. Few months ago I talked to one Taoist priest and he said that everybody thinks that Earth is pulling (hence the gravity) but in pure taoist teachings Heaven is pushing and because of that everything is falling down toward earth Can you please tell me is it not the Sun yang principle and representation of male and moon/earth yin principle and representation of female? Do you recommend some literature?

How is that? In every book about comparison of yin and yang qualities they state that lowering is yin and ascending is yang. So in this case it means that descending of diaphragm is yin but at the same time lowering of diaphragm is making it more tense which is yang. And opposite ascension of diaphragm is yang but in that position it is more relaxed which is yin. I understand that point of view on breathing. I read in books of Dr. Yang Jwing-Ming, Jerry Alan Johnson and some others. But the thing is that taoist views are opposite then buddhist or hindu views. I didn't find any definitive explanation of breathing process. Even one tai chi really good master that is considered to be national treasure said that the strongest practice for developing lower dan tien is just plain abdominal breathing with some visualizations and he even said that every other breathing technique is just selling snake oil. Maybe there is really none fixed explanation for this, so we can only say more yang or more yin looking from some specific point of view (physical level, mind, energy, physiology, etc).

Could you please give me the names of some good books that cover entirely that topic? I have read a lot of tai chi material and never encounter breathing explained in such a detail that leaves me satisfied

Unfortunately you are right :| WELCOME and MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU TOO

Are you looking for living master? Mooji is living teacher of advaita vedanda. He is the student of Papaji who was a direct disciple of Ramana Maharshi. I have never saw him but lots of people I know are very impressed with him and his presence Personally I like Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj more then any other teacher. He definitely has the most condense and clear teaching compared with other teachers. He is not better but the most direct teacher. Next to Nisargadatta and Ramana there are also Sri Auribindo and Swami Vivekananda. You can also take a look into works of Paramahamsa Yogananda, Swami Satyananda Saraswati, Meher Baba,...

For killing and being murdered I would say the opposite. You won't die unless it your time. So if you are being killed in accident or on purpose it was your karma. Your point is very interesting. Its just like in Star Wars. Jedi only work on being united with Force, they don't have fear of anything especially from dying and they reach immortality. On the other hand you have Sith, who search only for power they say that they are fearless but they are afraid of dying and are on constant search for immortality yet nobody ever reaches it

Nicely said. And like you said tolerance is just manifestation of love. BTW by love I mean Absolute Love, the highest state of consciousness. What I meant with killing and drinking were just examples. Your essence can not be disturbed by anything. But the problem is that if you do a lot of destructive (not negative) deeds in your life you won't succeed in awakening your mind to be conscious of you essence. On the other hand if you become fully conscious of your essence/emptiness/God you will not find any deed as destructive you will see it just as a process. As in Bhagavad Gita Krishna says (I am paraphrasing): If you think you can kill somebody and somebody can die you don't know the ultimate truth. That is because you are just ending the manifestation process, you cannot kill something that is eternal (our essence). But until that level of awareness we should be careful about our deeds and thought and emotions and try to live virtuous life.

CLOCKWISE: - Yang - constitution of energy (when someone has energy deficiency in some organ we treat it with hand clockwise rotation) - bringing in new fresh energy COUNTER-CLOCKWISE: - Yin - dispersion of energy (when someone has energy excess in some organ we treat it with hand counter-clockwise rotation) - taking out old toxic energy

OH! You have a long term plan for this thread, I didn't know. I'm sorry for interrupting. You're welcome. This is one of the best things I have read in loooong time Keep them (posts) coming

Thank you very much for the thread and all the posts. They are gold

Does this mean that even once you master energy and develop strong jin, you don't have it in abundance? It can be depleted?

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Sure Read Siddhartha from Hesse, Mustard Seed from Osho, anything from Nisargadatta, Ramana Maharshi and Bhagavad Gita (when you read that book most people identify with Arjuna but crucial part is that you read the book through the eyes of Krisna, the the book has the most potential when you realize that Krisna's words are your Truth).

The models of enlightenment? There is only one enlightenment. Even nirvana is not enlightenment, it is much lower state.

Your Ego has to die in order for you to become immortal. Read I AM THAT from Nisargadatta Maharaj and SIDDHARTHA from Hermann Hesse.

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Absolutely The more I meditate and go into that state the more grateful I am for that. Like you said (above bold part) there no distinction between you and entire Universe. You see yourself in others and other in you. The possibility of our mind to go into that state and to realize the our true Source is the greatest power man possesses.

No I haven't read that book. Thank you for recommendation You said it really nicely I agree with every word you said. My teacher always said on this subject the following How many enlightened Buddhist are there? The same amount as enlightened bakers. The deeds are not crucial to spiritual awakening, inner state and transcendence of Ego is. The are indeed few known individuals throughout history that have realized the Truth and yet they were soldiers and killed people. I didn't want to bring that up because it can be easily misunderstood, and I don't like arguing The path toward enlightenment is not universal path. There are as many spiritual paths as many living people. I think that most people who follow some practices (buddhism, taoism, christianity, zen, etc) are blinded. Instead I think you should spend time discovering the truth for yourself and find your own way. All those religions and practices are beautiful and really rich with knowledge and I really like reading them. I always try to see what is behind the words and it is the Truth. It is the same for every religion. There is one Truth but many interpretations (religions). I didn't want to bring that up because it can be easily misunderstood, and I don't like arguing

I am really glad that we agree It's really hard to find like minded individuals. The point I was making that absolutely anything you do your essence stays the same because it is constant and changeless. On the other hand our mind is not, it is prone to changes and deviations. If somebody wants to commit their life for searching for the truth they must regulate as you said both internal and external "blockages". But again searching for truth is BIG internal block because there is nothing to search for

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Essentially you are right. That is very true what you are saying in essence of mind origin. I agree with you on that 100%, but it is non constructive way of thinking. If you state that than we can go further and say that our original essence is emptiness/dao and no matter what you do in life you are never gonna stain the essence. So whats the point of even trying, when you can live your life killing, taking drugs, drinking, etc and you are not gonna stain our primordial emptiness. While that being truth, our quest is to become fully aware of that state and be able to consciously be in that state.