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Thanks Satya! What aspect of your brain are you looking to fix?

Sure, but that "IF is just "FEAR & DOUBT" in dualistic resistance to Faith.... And I mean that fundamentally, not personally "The lines of communication with the higher self are severed by the logical mind through doubt, fear, and disbelief. Strong faith is required to open this line of communication. Faith requires no logical proof; if proof is needed, then doubts interfere and breed failure. The logical mind cannot know absolute faith and, therefore, faith must come from deep within one's true self. Any form of cynicism will lead to the death of spiritual growth, for it strikes at the root of faith itself. Faith is not something that can be forced. Even after practicing Medical Qigong for many years, Qigong doctors may still have to battle their own questions. However, through successful practice, the seed of faith is established, allowing it to grow and blossom. The opposite of faith is doubt combined with fear. Suppression and denial of fear builds and armors the ego, which leads to further pain. If the fears are accepted and acknowledged, they can be overcome by faith. Dr Jerry Alan Johnson, Chinese Medical Qigong Therapy, p139 So, I hear what you are saying, and yet I can't agree with the idea that is out there that to para phrase "the untrained and uneducated will lead you astray from the truth"...after all entering into that which you are not is an offering and gift to remember that which you are. So, wrong information is still a gift...

I disagree BKA We are "all of it"... You cannot separate yourself from all of it. Everyone and everything is your lineage chart in real-time. So, anyone can access and become one with, and "know without knowing", anything - without needing to practice it for a second. That doesn't mean that everyone does...but certainly, to rule that out is seriously limiting oneself.

I guess a major premise of this thread is the idea that 72 is a natural "basis" for "all" systems - rectifying a sense of completion, or unity, synergy and wholeness. Well, in the theory of earth grid dynamics - the human physical/energetic body is synonymous with the earth's physical/energetic body - and that our chakras/energy centers are reflective of the earths. So, there are 72 bonded pairs of major signifigant points/sites on the earth grid (2x72=144)... Quote from Robert Coon: "The complete planetary structure contains 12 original inspirational sites, and an additional 144 centres which combine into 72 bonded pairs or partnerships. When complete, energy and information can be sent from any site on earth and arrive at any other site." So, what we are dealing with is 12 transpersonal chakras, and 144 additional centers which combine into 72 bonded pairs (which , i'll eat my hat if they are not yin/yang bonded pairs)... http://earthchakras.org/72-Bonds.php

Quoting from "A Course in Time Travel"...www.time-travelers.org/ : "The Primordial Second Dimension The maximum phase, is energy at its maximum state of vibration. It is the sum of all vibratory states. It is a universe of white light. It is, by its self, a one dimensional universe, but, because of its polarization with the negative pole, exists in two dimensional space. This is the Primordial Second dimension, it is the primary universal center and is the birth place of the Sun Sign LEO. (The Primordial Second dimension is the stellar prototype, or Universal Sun.) The Second dimension, in our three dimensional world, represents all that is in existence, that resides within the void. In other words, all created matter in any form, within space. The Primordial Second dimension is the PRIMORDIAL PRESENT. (Time of forever now), in that it can never experience anything other than itself, in present time, and it can never cease to exist." In other words, the numeral 2 is derived of the natural existence of the Primordial Second Dimension..."a universe" within which nothing is ever experienced other than "itself"...which is the reality described in the garden of eden - ie a time prior to knowledge beyond the experience of self, a time before the knowledge of "good and evil"...

If what you say is true, then it undermines life itself. We come from insubstancial to substancial for the purpose of experiencing that which we are through that which we are not... Mixing and matching is what life, and taoism is all about. So, I'd reconsider that root you planted for it will only lead into stagnation, not growth, not "sense". Maybe I'm "wrong", but what would you suggest otherwise - don't mix, match, don't correlate, don't assess, and don't transmute wisdom from knowledge? Sounds like fundamentalism? IMO you were drawn into this because it hit a cord with you...it challenged something within you....like the "untruth" that you cannot draw a greater sense of things through a study of diverging systems (that in reality all converge to the same point of synergy). But then, Dr Sheldon Cooper would have us all on within this argument... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/73_%28number%29 Would Dr Cooper care to join this thread?

Thanks SOTG! You could be writing some books you know...that is if you had the time and didn't train like an olympic athlete.

Thanks Satya! Nice to find another kriyataoist hybrid I've been working with Kriya Secrets Revealed - JC Stevens which is a great text. If you are interested in studying, practicing and discussing Kriya and Neigong/Neidan please come and discuss it at http://www.jedischool.cf (I'm not a teacher, nor am I teaching through that site, it's a community discussion forum in progress...) I've not added the Kriya text chapters yet, but its a work in progress...

For the sake of Clarity, for those that have not read my welcome note in Jedi School....there are no teachers at Jedi School. I am not a teacher, and Jedi School does not offer help, or guidance, or training....nor do I. Jedi School is a forum...a space for those that wish to share and engage with others that are practicing similar work. Now, whether you choose to have a teacher, or not, we welcome your presence in the Forum. BKA raised the issue of concern that a book learned practitioner is offering guidance to people... I've setup Jedi School, but it's not about me, and I'm not teaching through it. I'm not offering that any more than anyone else offering their insights and opinions in a forum environment. If community input, opinions, observations and insights into Taoist study and practice is not beneficial...than what are you doing on TTB? Great responsibility must always be taken, even when offering one's own opinion. But then responsibility is about responding with right action - not about a set of rules which must be followed.

Ha...that happens to me virtually every time I do a standing meditation outside - sometimes they land on my crown. And I can see through their eyes that they are attracted to the colours issuing from the energy centers.

But then, Leo Tolstoy would have to be one of the heaviest and most depressive souls you could encounter...even more so than Hemmingway was/is.

"and I think offering folks advice from a standpoint of only being book taught (and not even 10 years experience) would be a very bad thing." That depends on what you call advice BKA. Jedi School is not about offering advice...it is a space for shared experience and progress...which is not a bad thing. But thanks for sharing your opinion.

Thank BKA Jedi School is not about helping others...its a space for sharing experiences when working through JAJ and other Taoist (and other) texts. If someone does or does not have a teacher for this work, it is up to them. Personally I do not have a teacher, but then I can communicate very clearly with my spirit guides, past life personalities and many great masters that guide me. I do appreciate your concerns, though, so thanks for sharing them. If every teacher in the world just imploded and it was just you with these texts - what would you do?

I have not seen it for quite some time, but I used to see very similar all the time. I had a past life experience in ancient Greece where I was transmuted into a Dragon to protect a Goddess. I used to see that "Dracon" all the time. Best to just ask the Dragon regarding imbuing its energy...

Coming back from hyper-space.... So, you plant trees for feng shui, do you also work with earth chakras and ley lines?

Thanks, that reminds me...I do need a new pair of slippers! Another colour is a great idea....GO quantum superposition!

Whatever man - women just rock! Hairy, bald, skinny, plump, tall, short, fast, slow - women just rock!

White Light! But what's your paypal SOTG?

Maybe there are 2 ZYD's, and 2 ZYD PPF's - and maybe we can only see 1 of each? What if C-A-T really spelled Dog?

For those interested in studying and practicing this text, and other JAJ texts - please be invited to register at Jedi School - http://www.jedischool.cf I've setup Jedi School as a vehicle for shared experiences and progress with JAJ's work (among other modalities). May the Force be with you always