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What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
Thank you that this time mercury is not symbolism of muscles and lead is not intention how to contract muscles You are making progress. Keep going -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
Difficult to identify it, since u say ur yang rising to ur head I guess this is not about pill or elixir. If this is not yangshen than what else it can be YANG is your brightness, it what should rise -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
That false yang rises. Not what is expected in neidan. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
This is just no possible the way u do Read thoroughly what Liu Yiming wrote: It what I referred to in thread on Goals of Neidan when said that ordinary person too YIN (in post celestial state) U cant get Yang just by sitting and breathing. This can only purify heart-mind to some degree No more than that In rare cases this is possible. If one completely disperse Yang and gets too Yin in hope that finally complete Yin will reverse into Yang No warranty it will happen -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
Exactly. This is daoist section of the TDB. Qigong has no relation to daoism as such because this is recent invention. U cant get dan doing qigong. It can help u to regulate 12 meridians only, sometime 8 extraordinary channels No more than that -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
This is qigong and not of a high quality. It has nothing to do with texts. Nearly garbage It is not recommended to work on MCO using ur attention on it. You will disperse ur energy Also you won't find such practices described in taoist texts Ask Taoist Text if you dont trust me He is the guru of TT -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
I hope you dont you Mantac Chia stuff. Concentration on ldt... it depends what u mean by that. Slight attention may be true but combining with other methods. Detalis matter. I only can add you cant get it from the books. But there might be some book on northern style neidan where they use seated meditations. Some of them may give you some result but in general I cant recommend it. This would be to YIN approach Not only DG. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
If you have a teacher he should explain to you the meaning of this text. If you have no teacher and method it won't help you at all. -
What is the dan in neidan and dan tian? 丹
Antares replied to forestofclarity's topic in Daoist Discussion
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Where to learn neidan/neigong properly ? + How i ended up here
Antares replied to thewheelofortune's topic in Welcome
I would not recommend any neigong in your case. Since Michael has recommended daode center I would recommend to do their daogong system in your case. You should ask them if you can do it since not all people with disability issues are allowed to practice any energetic practices. Their daogong practice is very good for beginners and I would even say must be done before they get involved in any advanced energetic methods. It helps to eliminate imbalances in the meridians also removing blockages, brings mind/body to greater balance and purifies mind-heart. I myself am coming back to it and find it very helpful. -
He states that he does it but in fact... as an example He talks a lot about how to use breath and post heaven Wu-Xing (metal - lungs for example) and from what I can see he teaches qigong with some elements of neigong plus seated meditations. I would not say it is harmful but it is very questionable how he is getting True Water and True Fire to activate the alchemical MCO. May be there is smth he does not teach openly but I can't see anything from real neigong/neidan in what he teaches in his books or youtube videos.
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Well, in Russian seed also means smth that you plant in the garden. May be that is why the word sperm was used, BTW is not True Jing is what you get sperm from? May be you get it from plants I dont know
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This is excerpt from the book of WLP Patriarch The Teacher of Single Yang, but you are right in re to translation. I mean translation from Chinese was ok but somebody from Russian WLP branch made bad translation into English years ago so I left it as it is. Most important thing here is the idea behind it.
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If there is no true sperm in the tripod (Fu), that is like to boil empty kettle (Cheng) using water and fire. This is the best apt expression in relation to the exercises of qigong in the performance of the rotation around the circle of heaven. Without Water flowing and without the True Sperm to realize a small circle of heaven - to use a feeling of qi is like using a fire to burn under an empty pot. Then you can’t escape a burn-out. This circle of heaven of qigong uses the mobilization-release potential of body and produces wastes. It's just like to speed up a car with the brakes on. The faster it will go, the more damage there will be, but it will give no benefits. Similar to this, the rotation of the circle of heaven does not do any good. The above shows the difference between a small circle in alchemy and qigong.
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Alright, but I just wonder why he teaches qigong MCO, is any benefit in doing so If he teaches qigong how can he know neidan energetic mechanics? I am not talking about MCO specifically, it was just example of what he teaches.
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If I am not mistaken he teaches the work with MCO as seated meditation and trying to open it with the use of breath and attention. BTW he teaches qigong MCO. I dont think this is a good choice to read. I would even say to avoid it by all means
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Let me guess...mmm... from muscles strength?
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Yes, but is there Heaven and Earth work in it? Does it build LDT? Which Yang form does it?
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Agree. I dont remember that there were any other seminars in this lineage or any sort of meetings for further training.
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Do you have any experience of training in this lineage? I remember may be 10 years ago they held a seminar and wanted approx-ly 5000 $ for 7 days retreat. May be it was very advanced training but... I doubt it.
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Yang style is simplified version of Taiji, so no neidan in it. Read about the history of it - how and why it was developed.
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Probably he fights demons and agents Smith
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Interesting, I just found this info on taichitao.tv:"When we are able to reach our Te, we are able to slip through the doorway of birth and death, and transcend the human dimension. We can reach the “backbone” energy of the universe, which is pure Tao." It seems like he used the same analogy with candle I used here in re to De.
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Let say Chinese Communist Party is going to hold meeting on how to rule the country next 5 years, how do you think all people are welcome to join it including westerners let say from Biden' team? Both sides have their own agendas and view on the subject. That is why CCP meetings are open only for members of CCP. Why you think in Daoist system it should be different? Let say master of qigong from New York is coming to Daoist meeting and says:"Hey dudes, majority of American masters knows better what you should do... "