Antares

"Ketogenic diet" does make sense only for those who are diabetic or largely overweight. It is reserve option of a body metabolism. Dangerous for liver and spleen.

Tao_meow, you know what? I have never stumbled upon any authentic taoist (I mean not doubtful qigong masters who call upon bigu and so on) who said anything against grains. I personally would be careful with such theories. I read orientalist E. Torchinov essay on this (he was very good orientalist) and that was mentioned in that essay that there was notion of "abstaining of five grains", which meant some mundane human qualities which taoists should abandon and that there was a notion of "grain immortal" meaning Gui Xian (ghost immortal) which meant attainment of "false immortality". They say TCM at least 3000 years old. And I know that modern prominent taoists ate grains but not meat at all. For example renowned Lu Zijian who died at age of 118 : http://www.danwei.com/knight-of-the-yangtze-lu-zijian-dies-at-the-legendary-age-of-118/ He ate bread every day and rice. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1370&dat=20011205&id=v5kVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=nAsEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6606,686593 He said that And I doubt that he drank coffee and I am sure he did not eat any meat at all. http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/7-9-9/59524.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkMbMJ9JFaY

As for cholesterol I can't argue with it. I came across some scientific notion that the harm of cholesterol is myth and even that we need it, especially men. So I can't take fully the idea of the coffee harm and anyway I don't take it more often than twice a day. But all food has two sides as I mentioned before. There are modern scientific notions about it and another is "homeopathic" which is more about how certain food affects the mind and energy. I read Haneman's (the father of homeopathy) point of view on coffee and he ragarded it as medicine but not drink which can be taken every day. Yes it stimulates stamina of the body and good for concentration but after short charge of energy the discharge is coming. And then you need more and more coffee. It's stumulant and no any scientific research can indicate this from its limited perspective.

As for paleo and abstaining from grains it would be off topic. I can only say here that I trust TCM. And there is point of view that grains are most balancing body and mind food. The scientific notion on the harm of grains coming from western perspective on food as consisting of certain nutrients differs from ancient TCM's perspective on food. In TCM it's more about qi of the certain food. And it's more about cooling, warming or balancing qualities. The same is for coffee actually. It's warming but drying out when taking in excess. It's god for people with yan deficiency. I have never seen anything against grains in TCM. I came across the point of view that abstaining from grains is only daoists metaphor and should not be understood literally. But meat if you go with idea of paleo diet... It has some warming qualities but everything is about amount. And I would say it's not spiritual. Meat is concentarted form of animal's consciousness. I would be careful with this theory. I myself tried it for few months and quit it. It was good for the body but bad for my mind. Now I prefer grains and vegies and eggs. But another case with SUGAR. It's not only bc glucose but it 's more coming from perspective that it's poison - absolutely unnatural product which does much harm, there is no any qi in it, nothing balancing whatsover. But in TCM there is praise for honey. It has yan warming qualitiy and reach of useful nutrients according to scientific point of view. So I prefer honey to sugar when I have tea or coffee.

It depends on the amount of course. I stumbled upon a research where scientists said that even small amount of sugar is bad for the body. If you have one teaspoon may it is okey but if one has 3-4 cups of coffee per day adding sugar plus they have extra amount in other food. And in coffee there are two bad substances which are called cafestol and cahweol which form bad cholesterol and bad for blood vessels. I wish you to live long but we should think of our health in any event in everything we do if we are concerned of good health. I am not sure that 7 cups per day is good for health promotion. I heard of 4 cups per day as safe amount of coffee. Anyway the more coffee the more bad cholesterol in a body

Coffee is tasty drink and it is warming up but... bad for blood vessels and blood circulation. I am not sure it's good to have it more often than once a day. Some people add sugar to it what is twice as bad imho

No, no.... This is not celts. Celtic culture is the part of pre-historic Bon Shamanism as well as Nordic (German) culture and Siberian shamanism. Taoism has its roots in ancient shamanism as well as mentioned cultures. Only some aspects are common for all of them. But methods and some aspects differ in them. They have different goals I think. Druidism and shamanism have diff goals in comparison with spiritual teachings akin to alchemical Taoism and Dzogchen. Taoism is very vast and not everything is the same in it. And there was mix of ideas and conceptions between ancient Bon and local cultures and teachings and methods of new great teachers like Buddha or Lao Tzu who brought new ideas and modified teachings according to time and place. I would not say that Druidism and Taoism is the same thing. Let's say at present we don't have Druidism in the authentic form and it's lost.

IMHO both Taoism and Druidism have they roots in "pre-historic Bon of Eurasia". Do not confuse it with modern Tibetan Bon which is very similar to Buddhism. Some more information here: http://boandbon.com/contents.html

Alles, I was not aggressive to anyone here. And I did not insult anyone here. As for FPCK straightforward and down-to-earth you should elaborate more. How you can estimate my state of mind, mate? You are going again to aggressive estimation of my state of mind. Do you like it so much to esteem me? When I said of "abuse" that was many times when instead of going on topic about nature of this qigong some of you began to esteem my personality. Last episode with Zen Bear was very strange... But I realized he is busy man and does not want to waste time for forum. And I have so many questions.But this is life - people want to know what they do... No one is perfect. I have had some good results from FPCK - more clarity, more calmness and so on..but it seems to be too soft and requires very good karma and previous experience. I will come back to it later when retired. I had certain questions which I could not find answers here. I am not looking for shen cultivation system and health system. It should be only side effects of authentic practice. Did you read that thread btw? At this stage I need ming+xing cultivation system.

And eventually my lost post here. About what I wanted to figure out here. There are authentic traditional schools with certain methods and scriptures. It is only map but based on experience of many practitioners. There are many diff methods. Not all of them lead to spirituality. Let's say spiritual reality is not so obvious (for me definitely). There are diff methods of cultivation: As zen-bear was talking of Tao Yin I wondered in this context. If someone is not aware of this - it is his or her personal karma. Zen-bear did not want to elaborate it but would prefer to go for personal issues. I gave this link here before: http://thetaobums.com/topic/6793-yin-spirit-yang-spirit-and-spirit-travel/ Good luck.

And when I asked Cihan if he really got "transmission" without kung fu, arts, and so on... you (zen-bear) said: "who are you here to ask..." What was wrong in my question? That you want me off this thread?

And talking of "transmission" I obviously meant few important issues which people should be aware of. I just was thinking if it is right to learn such systems with DVD's. I said that would find that your post about FP and Kung Fu. Here this your post: There are very few complete Qigong systems that impart much benefit if practiced out of the context of martial or healing art. My experience over the last 30 yrs. has shown me that practicing Qigong before the Kung-fu never leads to wholesome results. It creates imbalance and delusion on many levels. If one isn't practicing kung-fu, teaching it, or doing holistic healing work, the energy cultivated by qigong practice isn't being channeled into the most natural applications--i.e., it has nowhere to go. With some Qigong systems, after they are mastered, the effects of their practice automatically "kicks in" when one practices martial art or does healing. One is self-renewed just by teaching or healing--without the actual practice of the original Qigong exercises. But this comes after mastery. It is also what Carlos Castaneda's teachers meant by "not doing." Obviously FP seems to be done together with other practices in BFP. And transmission could mean many things including: qigong, kung fu, arts, symbols, telepathic means... That' just was strange for me how people here reacted on my questions about this. Is it my bad karma asking this?

I asked you for help on the thread. And some people started abuse my personality. NIce!!!!! You asked for the type of help that I already provided in this thread (#89, #93) and I answered you directly in Post #2329--again spelled out in Post #2401 above. With regard to you allegedly being "abused" for no reason as you argue, the fact is that people always get what they deserve by the law of karma, cause and effect. Yes, you replied and that' obviously good and nice that you do all this job. But I Pmed you asking how to combine or if it's worth to combine FP and SYG. You said to ask on the thread. And I asked people. But you did not reply. I wanted to clarify aspects of Xing and Ming cultivation what I stressed in last posts again. That' was one of my main query here which I did not find answer in the thread and I asked it again and again. That' was the question about Tao Yin and what is alchemy and what is not. I used to stress it few times I agree. I wanted to choose FP or SYG or combine them both. I did not find adequate answer on this - if FP only for health (Xing cultivation) or it is both Xing-Ming and if I need practice both of them. People advised "just do it" but I had no enough information on this to make right choice. And was that my karma that I used to ask these questions? Why is it not your karma that you could not answer this question when I asked it? Do you know answer on this question?

You just distorted my words obviously. I said that people here meaning few people who do not care about such thing as getting transmission from master, or about aspects alchemy (not chi kung). You should understand where my questions were coming from. You skipped many of those questions and stressed on my "lie" and personal relations. I could quote here some Taoists cultivation "tips" about difference of alchemy and qigong cultivation and I quoted something before and you did not reply. That would be more interesting to discuss than going to the personal issues. But few people said that it is off topic so that' why I came to such conclusion that not everyone interested in spirituality.

WHERE I lied about you or give fallacy information? Quote it. If you don't quote it then you should apoligize for your statement. • The kind that spelled out all of your recent lies, purposeful misquotes, over-generalizations and self-serving switching of contexts. Your LIES are clearly exposed in my Post #2401 And what was the lie? Obviously that Garry used words "freaky silly". I meant Garry saying these words. Bc you both replied to me and I applied to both of you. Garry proposed to do FP only but I recalled one of your posts where you said that FP without solid kung fu practice can create imbalance. FP is not kung fu but chi kung. I apologize for not adequate adding the word "fuck" but it does not change the general sense of your question "who are you here to ask...". I did not mean anything abusive to Cihan in my question. So what is my lie for creating karma? I did not state that you said "freaky silly" and I did not lie on you anything. Everybody know who used that words... I was not abusive to anyone

Sorry, guys, I have had really many questions here in the thread... So many opinions, so many theories... Really was going nuts with all of them. I asked here for HELP. What to choose. Few people replied with constructive ideas and thanks for that. I have read some Taoist theories on cultivation and they say that cultivation of Xing without cultivation of Ming leads to deviations but can give some power. I wanted to clarify all this. If you think this is off topic do not hesitate to say it. Bc in SYG there is lower tantien mudra in the beginning and it seems to be cultivation of jing. And I was not sure about FP Hope you do not ask to pay for this information, I would prefer free sharing here.

Garry, who you are asking? Sunn Gunn hmmm.... may be jing and shen?

Thanks for constructive opinion. Yes Taoists use terms of Xing and Ming. But not so easy really to understand these terms. As far as I know Ming is related to lower tan tien.

This is not shop actually if you understand it. This is free community TheTaoBums. As I said Master Dunn must not answer any of my questions. But you should not discuss my personality if questions are not answered. That's what I am saying. But at least I expected that most basic information should be given for free. It would be cruel if you charge for such the basic information. Only I wanted to know was that that if level one enough to be complete system and if it is spiritual system or medical chikung So I just wanted to know if I need to add anything to this practice or it is stand alone practice. That turned out that this is not as much spiritual as chiku ng for psychic power and healing. I think this information should be free. That' actually all I wanted to clarify all this time. So how much would you charge for this?

What kind of Shit - O - Meter you talking about? WHERE I lied about you or give fallacy information? Quote it. If you don't quote it then you should apoligize for your statement. I am reffering to the GMDW' friend who says that GM himself said that there 18 levels with 36 meditations in each level. That person has the video where GMDW says that THIS IS LEVEL 18. Why you find it nice to jeer at me on the thread? What I did to you? Did I lie on you, did I show my desrespect? Is that bc I used the word fuck? People use sometime such words like wtf, rttf and few more. You used to say that FP is fucking shit. Did I say any bad word to your side that you turn on your magic Shit-o meter? I could not concentrate on FP solely for 6 months bc I did not have enough information about system and thought to mix with something else. I did not know how many levels how many going to be published what I asked you few times and you did not answer at that time. I know couple people who quit FP practice bc they did not know about all these levels and were not sure if need to meet you in US. I have many other DVDs abd I shifted to them then back to FP then SYG, FP< >SYG. I asked you for help on the thread. And some people started abuse my personality. NIce!!!!!

I reffered to that post where you wrote next: Antares, Sifu Hearfield and I wish you and all others well on this thread, but please meditate and think more about the purpose of this thread before you post--not that Garry or I are moderators here--but because I personally don't want to spend all so much time correcting erroneous statements and pointing out irrelevancies. Sifu Terry Dunn I realized that you (and Garry) were so unhappy with my questions that only of this reason you could post what I underlined - you are not going to point out irrelevancies. And what were these irrelevancies? I asked you few times so9me basic questions about: how spiritual BFP system, about levels - few diff very basic questions which WERE NOT answered. And when I asked for that another student of GMDW and posted it you said it all irrelevant to the thread including such important thing as "transmission" asking me not to post these questions again. This is open thread and who decide which questions are relevant and which are not? If you have nothing to say - it's okey, you can skip the question. You seemed to ignore few of these questions. Some were answered. I did not say that I was unhappy with your answers and only expected to get most basic information in order to get idea how to practice correctly!!! I know you are busy man and understand you do your best and I said that appreciate that. But then it turned people began to be negative to my queries really abusing my personality. My questrion to Cihan was if he really realized what you call direct "transmission from the Tao". I wondered who managed to get it directly through couple moves of FP. I asked him personally and it was up ti him how to continue our talk. I am free to ask people about their attainments and this could help me to understand what he talked about.

I got this information yesterday. And yes I see no point to take part in this thread as people here is not interesred in spirituality. We have diff goals and thus you don't understand my questions

As for my reference to another person who is friend of GMDW and who disclosed some info to me that was not clear enough for me while reading this thread and I only said that I asked that person for some clarifications. And I got clear and short replies which ST did not disclose here. For example I was said that: Nothing said that it is high level Yoga and no references to Taosim and buddism spirituality adding new theories akin to Tibetan yoga doctrine. Here I asked for clarifications about similarities of traditions but many people are not likely going to discuss it and not interested of what they learning. Thus let' stop it here right now.

Bubles, you are emphatically distorting my words and twist the meaning of my words how you like it. I put more easy - you are not going to clarify things, neither you want to understand what I was asking. Your goal is fighting here. Thus I see no point discuss anything with you. Where you see in quoted post that I state there must be transmission? I asked to elaborate what is transmission and if we should meet GMDW in person. I asked if it is spiritual tradition or not. That' was the core of my query. Which you do not want to realize. You believe what you want to believe abusing person who was asking for some clarifications. Period

What I said was that all spiritual traditions should have the same CORE/THE SPIRIT. And that this applicable to taoist traditions as well. I did not mean it must be the same but ST and other GMDW's students confirmed that GM has power and it helps. And I said you can call it "magnetic induction" or somehow esle. Honestly, this is ENOUGH for my psyche. Edited for addition . Actually Tibetan Yoga book was not advised as "road map", I mistaken but reference is given often to this book.